General Category => TV / Movies => Topic started by: JackFrost on August 12, 2009, 01:04:11 AM
Title: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on August 12, 2009, 01:04:11 AM
I don't know about the rest of you, but I adore me some Pixar. ;D
I feel they put a lot of love and care into their movies and, I feel, the result is usually evident on the screen.
I did this as an extension of the thread that told about the appearances of the Pizza Planet truck in all of the Pixar flicks (to my chagrin, it looks like that isn't quite the case :'(). So instead of just listing them, how 'bout we take a look at some screencaps? 8) ;D:
Of course, here is the truck in its first appearance in Toy Story (1995) when Woody and Buzz use it to get to the restaurant itself:
And impossibly, it also appears in Finding Nemo (2003) during the sequence where Gill explains the escape plan and the viewer is given a POV from inside the bag and the truck drives across the screen just before the bag drops into the water:
But then we get to The Incredibles (2004) and this is where the streak is broken. Despite several claims, the truck does not appear in the film. Apparently, this is due to director Brad Bird's insistence on having the cars look like they were from the '60s even though the rest of the buildings and robots were very modern. Yet another contributing factor to why it's my least favorite Pixar flick:
But then it's back in Cars (2006), seen here attending the final race. Now it's even been anthropomorphized like the rest of the vehicles in the movie:
And surely, it couldn't be in Ratatouille (2007), could it? That took place in Paris. Well, it's hard to see, but the truck is definitely there crossing the bridge over the Seine when Skinner is chasing Remy.:
Frankcapri originally found a screencap from Up (2009) to complete the list of appearances, but it has since been removed from PhotoBucket so I have replaced it with a shot from the DVD:
I feel the same way about Pixar movies. They really set the standard for CG and writing in animated films. I'm anxious to see Up.
This is an awesome run down. I remember seeing the Pizza Planet truck in some of the movies, but I didn't know it was a thing. Thanks :)
Apparently, there is quite a debate about this image (http://pixar.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Pizza_Planet_truck) from The Incredibles.
If you click the frames before and after that, you see it's just a yellow car, so it's not the truck. Plus as all the other images show you can actually see the truck itself, even if it's incredibly tiny and you have to freeze the film - you can still see it.
And Up is really great. My favorite part are the dogs... ;)
Oh and thanks for finding the screen cap from Up... ;D
Do you mind if I add it to the original post? ;D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: frankcapri on August 12, 2009, 02:31:18 AM
I thought it looked doubtful. Oh well. I still think it's really cool that they add in these little treats for the discerning viewer :)
Add it by all means. It's not like I did any real work on that like you did with all your caps :D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on August 12, 2009, 09:32:05 AM
I thought it looked doubtful. Oh well. I still think it's really cool that they add in these little treats for the discerning viewer :)
Add it by all means. It's not like I did any real work on that like you did with all your caps :D
I forgot to upload them so they're still on my home computer, but I found a few other Easter eggs in the flicks while searching for those caps. I'll show 'em later...
And I might do one that shows all of the appearances of the little yellow ball with the blue stripe and the red star... ;D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: frankcapri on August 12, 2009, 09:45:51 AM
I look forward to your further investigations :)
The A113 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A113)has quite a legacy as well (even outside of Pixar films).
Adults that make cartoons for a living are so quirky :D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on August 12, 2009, 09:51:13 AM
The A113 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A113)has quite a legacy as well (even outside of Pixar films).
Adults that make cartoons for a living are so quirky :D
Apparently A113 is the room number of the classroom where many of the animators learned animation and met one another... I might try to find all of those, too. ;D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: Discover99 on August 12, 2009, 11:26:24 AM
i love it when people really get into something and share about it :)
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: frankcapri on August 12, 2009, 11:44:23 AM
Apparently A113 is the room number of the classroom where many of the animators learned animation and met one another... I might try to find all of those, too. ;D
That would be awesome. You're working on the definitive Pixar Easter egg hunt right here ;D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: ohcheap1 on August 12, 2009, 03:19:36 PM
Isnt there a movie trivia thread somewhere in here? This stuff is awesome we should combine the threads.
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on August 12, 2009, 04:34:56 PM
Isnt there a movie trivia thread somewhere in here? This stuff is awesome we should combine the threads.
Yeah, there is, but this ones just about Pixar, so I just expanded it with the screen caps. ;D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on August 13, 2009, 01:39:11 AM
Depending on the flick, Pixar generally spends between 3 and 5 years in development before it's released.
For instance Finding Nemo officially started production in 2000, but the film didn't hit theaters until 2003. So in order to release a flick every year or two, they have overlapping productions from different teams. So 2-3 flicks can be in production simultaneously, which means that characters from upcoming productions get hidden in the current release.
This is a shot from Monsters, Inc. which released in 2001. This is the scene where Mike and Sully throw Randall into a 'random' door to banish him, the door lands him in the trailer with the Pizza Planet truck parked outside (see above). Mike throws open the door and reveals a plaque with clownfish on it, presumably Marlon:
And then I was going through Ratatouille for screen caps for Name That Movie and I came across this shot. As Remy runs through an apartment he is startled by a barking dog. We only see the dog's silhouette, but it's unmistakeably Dug the Dog from Up:
Even though I saw both Monsters, Inc. and Ratatouille on opening night, I wouldn't have frame of reference for these Easter egg for another 2 years after each.
This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about when I say they care a lot about what they do...
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: Discover99 on August 13, 2009, 03:06:57 AM
awesome find jack
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on August 13, 2009, 08:57:29 AM
Animation is really neat in the sense that if the people that work on it want to, they can slip in all kinds of nifty stuff. I really wonder how much stuff is hidden in animated movies. You gotta imagine that when you get a bunch of adults together making "kid movies" they're seriously tempted to do some "interesting" things ;D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on August 13, 2009, 10:46:14 AM
Animation is really neat in the sense that if the people that work on it want to, they can slip in all kinds of nifty stuff. I really wonder how much stuff is hidden in animated movies. You gotta imagine that when you get a bunch of adults together making "kid movies" they're seriously tempted to do some "interesting" things ;D
Pixar tends to be more playful with their Easter Eggs and from what I've seen treats its employees with respect. But Disney's had it's fair share of animator shenanigans due to its own behavior.
Disney tends to piss off a lot of the creative people that work on their films (imagine that), and sometimes these people will retaliate.
There's the guy who painted a penis right into the middle of the castle in the poster for The Little Mermaid:
The Basic Instinct-esque exposure of Jessica Rabbit in Who Framed Roger Rabbit?:
And then there's the porno inserted into a scene in The Rescuers:
Is that the kind of thing you were talking about, frank? :D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: frankcapri on August 13, 2009, 10:50:58 AM
Exactly. You're awesome :D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: xtopave on August 13, 2009, 11:03:44 AM
Sheshhh, someone had to look very closely. Or I guess they told someone themselves, because if nobody sees it what's the point? Anyway I prefer them doing cartoons for my children than working in a restaurant. Wait a minute... ;D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: redlandslide on August 13, 2009, 05:12:41 PM
Half way through The Lion King, when Simba slumps to the ground, a swirl of dust and leaves is supposed to spell the word "SEX". Here's an image of it. don't know if it genuinely appears like that or if the pictures been tampered with.
And isn't Aladdin supposed to mutter "teenagers take off your clothes" when he's about to take off on his magic carpet with Jasmine for the first time? I haven't got a copy of it to check.
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on August 13, 2009, 05:36:54 PM
Half way through The Lion King, when Simba slumps to the ground, a swirl of dust and leaves is supposed to spell the word "SEX". Here's an image of it. don't know if it genuinely appears like that or if the pictures been tampered with.
And isn't Aladdin supposed to mutter "teenagers take off your clothes" when he's about to take off on his magic carpet with Jasmine for the first time? I haven't got a copy of it to check.
Yeah, I've heard about both of these, but I'm not sure about the veracity of either one. I think the Aladdin one might just be someone mishearing a line of dialog, really... :D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: redlandslide on August 13, 2009, 05:42:01 PM
I just found this on you tube.
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: Skadi on August 13, 2009, 06:20:03 PM
I need to catch up on this whole thread. I didn't even know there was going to be a TS3 ..and phalic jokes are awlays funny :D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on August 13, 2009, 07:51:52 PM
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: Discover99 on August 22, 2009, 02:44:27 PM
::) :D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: CMF on August 22, 2009, 08:46:00 PM
I hate Disney. They used to do such good and funny animations. But, recently, it has been all about the money. They make movies fast to sell them even faster based upon only their name. Also, since a cartoon is long to do, they switched to real-persons movies which are horrible! But then again, Pixar is owned by Disney. Therefore, I guess that Disney will concentrate on Hannah Montana/Jonas Brothers crap and leave the animation to Pixar. :-\
Also, did you know that Pixar plans the release of Monster Inc. 2 and Cars 2 ;)
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: goldshirt*9 on August 23, 2009, 02:47:54 AM
cannot wait for ts3. love most of pixar , not all.
great clips here
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on August 24, 2009, 09:42:05 AM
But then again, Pixar is owned by Disney. Therefore, I guess that Disney will concentrate on Hannah Montana/Jonas Brothers crap and leave the animation to Pixar. :-\
Also, did you know that Pixar plans the release of Monster Inc. 2 and Cars 2 ;)
While Disney did acquire Pixar, they have actually more of a partnership than anything else. Disney-Pixar's first flick was Cars and for the foreseeable future will remain together. Pixar owns the films outright and does the marketing, while Disney is the distributor of the films.
You are kind of right about Disney giving up on it's animation studio and letting Pixar do the animation, but only to the extent that John Lasseter (one of the founding members of Pixar) is the head of both studios. Disney is still producing films in the 'Classic' line (which includes Snow White, Lady & the Tramp, Aladdin, etc.), however the last three have been non-Pixar CGI flicks: Chicken Little, Meet the Robinsons & Bolt. Though this year's The Princess and the Frog will be more traditional 2-D animation (which incidentally, is also animated with computers ;)).
And yeah, I did know about the sequels, tho' I'm not all that excited. I'm more interested in Newt, which is a their next original piece.
And apparently they may be getting into live-action with 1906 (about the SF earthquake) and John Carter of Mars, but no one seems to be able to figure out to what extent Pixar will be involved with these movies. If they'll be total Pixar productions or if Pixar is just providing CGI effects to a live-action flick produced by another company.
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on September 03, 2009, 10:33:46 AM
So here we have Pixar's very first animated short from 1986, Luxo, Jr. It was nominated for but did not win an Academy Award for Best Animated Short film. There are several recurring references from this short in most if not all Pixar flicks, so...
Eventually, they re-released the short in front of Toy Story 2 and prefaced it with this newly added line:
"In 1986, Pixar produced its first film. This is why we have a hopping lamp in our logo."
In the background of this scene you can see the Luxo lamp on Andy's desk - granted it is red this time, but it is clearly the same exact design. The lamp ends up playing a central part in the story as it's responsible for knocking Buzz out of Andy's window:
And then there is the code A113, which again appears in every Pixar feature film somewhere. A113 refers to the classroom at CalArts where several Disney and Pixar animators started out/met each other. Here it is as the license number on Andy's mother's minivan:
This is all I have for now, but I've just realized there's something in the short Tin Toy that comes back, too - so I'll have to work on that and then we can move on to A Bug's Life... ;D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: xtopave on September 03, 2009, 05:47:47 PM
OMG, I even dreamed about those lamps. I bought a compilation of animated shorts from Pixar for my daughter when she was 3 years old and she wanted to see this particular one again and again and again. I still remember her asking for "the lamps" in her half Spanish. Those shorts are awesome for all ages. ;D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on September 04, 2009, 01:03:22 AM
OMG, I even dreamed about those lamps. I bought a compilation of animated shorts from Pixar for my daughter when she was 3 years old and she wanted to see this particular one again and again and again. I still remember her asking for "the lamps" in her half Spanish. Those shorts are awesome for all ages. ;D
It's amazing how much likeability they get out of characters who not only have no voice, but not even a face. And yet the character still expresses a range of reactions and emotions. :)
And here's their 2nd short, Tin Toy, which did win the Academy Award for Best Animated Short in 1988 becoming the first CGI generated short film to do so.:
Apparently in early stages of the construction of Toy Story, the toy in this short, Tinny, was to be the central character. But then the cowboy puppet they'd written into the early drafts begin becoming a more centralized character and became Woody. Tinny eventually morphed into Buzz Lightyear. :)
But there is an Easter egg in Toy Story from Tin Toy, the rainbow colored stacked-ring toy that the baby teethes:
Because I'd noticed that really early, I thought for awhile that the baby was either Andy or, better yet, Andy's little sister as an infant. So it would make sense that that toy would appear. But eventually I discovered that the name of the baby in Tin Toy is Billy. So no connection - it's just an Easter egg.
And here's the one from A Bug's Life, another appearance of the A113 code on the box on left:
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7318/01a113.jpg)
There are more little inside jokes in all of their movies, but a great many involve having intimate knowledge of staff members' names and such. That's a little too anal I think, so I won't include that kind of stuff.
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: xtopave on September 04, 2009, 06:50:29 AM
It's amazing how much likeability they get out of characters who not only have no voice, but not even a face. And yet the character still expresses a range of reactions and emotions. :)
That's what I thought when I first saw it. Creativity to the extreme.
Tin Toy was in that compilation too. The baby is creepy and Tinny is so sweet and smart. :)
And my favorite Pixar short so far:
The music's awesome too.
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: ohcheap1 on September 04, 2009, 07:06:07 AM
I had never seen that one! Love it. The kids facial expressions are hilarious. Thanks XT. :D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: xtopave on September 04, 2009, 07:45:13 AM
You're welcome. I love it when he shows them the coins.
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: redlandslide on September 06, 2009, 06:35:04 PM
There's another Toy Story easter egg. The names of the Pixar shorts appear as book titles behind woody.
I had never seen that one! Love it. The kids facial expressions are hilarious. Thanks XT. :D
One Man Band showed in front of Cars and is on that DVD as well... ;D
Okay, and so on to Toy Story 2! And where there weren't very many hidden things in A Bug's Life, there's all sorts of things hidden all over Toy Story 2.
And here is the first of numerous A Bug's Life references. The calendar is using a piece of concept artwork. Oh, and incidentally, the red lamp is back, too:
And here, up on the dusty shelf, is the ring toy that first appeared in Tin Toy. It is clearly missing pieces and has been retired now that both kids have outgrown it. It ends up out in the yard sale and is never seen again:
While the toys are looking for one of the Al's Toy Barn ads, they are flipping through channels. Hamm decides to speed things up and begins to speedily press the channel button. All of the images that pass by are either from Pixar shorts or advertisements they've done:
Their old logo: (http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9571/11tvoldlogo.jpg)
Tin Toy: (http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9941/08tvtintoy.jpg)
Knick Knack (incidentally, this is the unedited version where the snowman's object of affection has enormous pontoons): (http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8130/10tvknickknack.jpg)
Red's Dream (be sure to take note of the pattern on the floor under the unicycle ;)) (http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4930/13tvredsdream.jpg)
Pixar did at least 3 ads for Listerine where they animated the bottle as a boxer, Robin Hood and Tarzan. While they did show quick clips from the Tarzan one, none of them actually had the bottle in frame, so here are the boxer and Robin Hood) (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/876/07tvlisterine.jpg) (http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2073/09tvlisterine2.jpg)
And the 3rd appearance of the Luxo ball - in fact, I still haven't figured out what this is from originally: (http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5797/12luxoball03.jpg)
In Al's apartment, there's abstract art from A Bug's Life on his wall:
In this scene, Buzz is leading the other toys to Al's Toy Barn and is chopping his way through some of the shrubbery. Just before he appears in scene, you can see Heimlich climbing one of the plants:
The man who Al calls to repair Woody is the character Geri from their short Geri's Game:
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9128/17geri.jpg)
And just to drive the point home, one of the drawers of his repair kit contains chess pieces: (http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/2593/18gerischesspieces.jpg)
And the 4th and final Luxo ball appearance. There is actually a bin full of them right next to the entrance to Al's Toy Barn, but I couldn't find that shot so you get this one - trust me, the bin is there :): (http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9414/19luxoball04.jpg)
Al's Toy Barn carries the toy line for A Bug's Life - and that is the actual packaging for the real life versions of the toys:
And here's a really neat parallel sequence from Toy Story, both Woody and Buzz have the same reaction climbing up to bask in the magnificence of Buzz Lightyear :D:
During the sequence where Jesse recounts being abandoned by her owner :'(, the tree on the hill with the tire swing is the same one that sits atop Ant Island in A Bug's Life:
And Hamm gets clobbered by stuff from the glove compartment of the Pizza Planet truck, one of its contents is the Chinese Food box from A Bug's Life Also, this shot shows the owner's manual for the Pizza Planet truck which makes it a 1978 Gyoza ;):
And last, but not least, is the reappearance of A113 as Andy's mom's license plate, but it is also the number of a flight announced over the loudspeakers at the airport:
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: redlandslide on September 09, 2009, 03:55:21 PM
I love Geri's Game. I didn't see it until last christmas and was watching it again a couple of weeks ago, but was convinced there were no easter eggs in it, I never recognised Geri himself was from TS2. :-[
On the subject of the Toy Story movies, the Eggman Removals removal truck at the end of Toy Story reappears in Toy Story 2 when the toys are crossing the road under the cones, and makes a third appearance in the Incredibles video game, which I guess makes it an Incredibles video game easter egg.
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on September 09, 2009, 04:10:06 PM
I love Geri's Game. I didn't see it until last christmas and was watching it again a couple of weeks ago, but was convinced there were no easter eggs in it, I never recognised Geri himself was from TS2. :-[
It's actually the other way around. Geri's Game premiered with A Bug's Life, so Geri was then cast in Toy Story 2. ;D
On the subject of the Toy Story movies, the Eggman Removals removal truck at the end of Toy Story reappears in Toy Story 2 when the toys are crossing the road under the cones, and makes a third appearance in the Incredibles video game, which I guess makes it an Incredibles video game easter egg.
Like I said, there are some very obscure references that I just left out rather than have to explain. The Eggman Removals truck doesn't appear often enough for me to make an issue out of it (although, I have to re-watch Up to see if it's in there). Similarly, I left out the shot where we we see the pink bear (in the left of the shot) from Toy Story sold in Al's Toy Barn in Toy Story 2 because I can barely remember the pink bear at all! :D:
Well, within the short itself the only easter egg is the printing on the side of the cigar box Geri tosses the chess pieces into which says "Pt. Richmond Hand Made Pixar Shorts". Point Richmond was where their offices were at the time Geri's Game was produced in 1997. But Geri himself is an easter egg in Toy Story 2 because it came out 2 years later in 1999. :)
By the way, thanks for keeping an eye on the posts, you pointed out a huge mistake on my part for missing Woody with the books. ;D
And moving on to Monsters, Inc. we find significantly less hidden stuff. They kinda went crazy with Toy Story 2, but then it was originally supposed to be a direct-to-video release (until everyone realized it was so good, it needed to have a theatrical release first) so they may have cut developmental corners by reusing imagery rather than have to create it from scratch (which costs money). This is, of course, purely speculation on my part.
Anyway, first up from Monsters, Inc. we have one of the patterns Fungus pulls down for Randall to mimic is the cloud wallpaper from Andy's room in Toy Story (by TS2 they'd moved to a different house and the wallpaper is stars ;)):
When Mike takes Celia to Harryhausen's Sushi, behind the chef is painted a huge clown fish (incidentally, Ray Harryhausen was a stop-motion animation pioneer who specialized in monsters). I've always liked that the sushi chef is an Octopod :D:
I searched for an A113 reference, but wasn't really able to find one (neither has anyone else apparently), but I did find this shot where one of the columns has A13 on it, which is close. What's interesting is that it's an odd number to designate when the one next to it is A25 ??? You be the judge...:
When Sully finally manages to get Boo back into her own room, she wants to give him gifts, and in this shot where she gives him her Jesse doll, we can see the Luxo ball:
One can only imagine that these items would be very important to Boo, which is why she's giving them as gifts. By the end of it, Boo has given Sully all three of the above-mentioned items:
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: frankcapri on September 10, 2009, 02:26:38 AM
This topic is so full of kick-ass that my ass is sore. Fantastic execution :)
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I searched for an A113 reference, but wasn't really able to find one (neither has anyone else apparently), but I did find this shot where one of the columns has A13 on it, which is close. What's interesting is that it's an odd number to designate when the one next to it is A25 Huh You be the judge...:
Wikipedia sez
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Monsters, Inc. - Sign seen in the background when Sulley sees Smitty and Needleman loading the trash compactor.[citation needed]
I'm pretty sure this is a falsehood. You should edit the wiki page and when somebody questions it, show them this thread :D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on September 11, 2009, 09:23:41 AM
I'm pretty sure this is a falsehood. You should edit the wiki page and when somebody questions it, show them this thread :D
Y'know I never saw that wiki citation, so I'll have to go check it for myself. But wiki also claims there's a Pizza Planet truck in The Incredibles, and there just isn't.
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: dweez on September 11, 2009, 10:02:45 AM
Y'know I never saw that wiki citation, so I'll have to go check it for myself. But wiki also claims there's a Pizza Planet truck in The Incredibles, and there just isn't.
Well, we know what Jack's gonna be doing all weekend now. ;D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on September 11, 2009, 10:17:27 AM
Now on to the tied-with-WALL●E-for-my-favorite, Finding Nemo.
I also think this one is their first flicks where you can really point to the fact that Pixar's movies are not solely for children because the ultimate message of this film is for the adults in the audience: While you're busy trying to make sure nothing happens to your kids, be sure to allow some things to happen to your kids.
The DVD for Finding Nemo is the only case in which I've found that the fullscreen version of the flick is actually superior to the widescreen version. Generally the top and bottom of your TV would have black bars so the the longer width of the picture can be seen instead of being cropped off to fill the frame. In the case of Finding Nemo, when it came time to do the fullscreen version, Pixar just took the widescreen and extended the picture out above and below to fill the frame. So ultimately there is more animation to view... 8) ;D
Granted, they did this back when TVs had the old aspect ratio, instead of flatscreen HDTV's which are oriented for optimal display of widescreen material, so I'm not sure how well it would translate to an HDTV. :D
At any rate, I used the fullscreen version for the caps.
Okay, and right away we have A-113 as the model designation on the camera the diver uses to snap a pic of Marlon:
And several things in the toybox. There are actually a couple of other toys of note in this pic, but are kind of obscure. Take little the wooden plane on the bookshelf, it first appeared in Toy Story, and then again in Monsters, Inc., and if it appears in one other flick, I'll post the caps. So I've pointed out the most obviously recognizable toys here - oh, and the Luxo ball... ;D:
The shipwrecked boat in the aquarium has the mermaid from the short Knick Knack as it's figure head - although she's not quite as endowed as she was originally:
Hey! Someone posted the unedited version of Kick Knack on YouTube, so here ya go:
And here's our good pal Crush, the 150-year-old sea turtle (take that Sandy Plankton!) that rescues Marlon and Dorie from the jellyfish. He is voiced by Andrew Stanton, the guy responsible for both writing and directing the film:
This is definitely my least favorite Pixar flick mostly because I found a lot of it to be really clich?, something I usually expect Pixar not to be. Their other flicks up to this one had been really original and inventive, this one uses a lot of ho-hum trappings from several sources, mostly from marginal superhero comics, James Bond movies and cheesy 60s spy shows - none of which am I a fan. And as much as I normally like Jason Lee, I never liked his voice for Syndrome, it grates for some reason, but then, I also think Syndrome is kind of lame, too so... :D Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad movie, I just don't love it as much as other Pixar flicks.
But then to find out it doesn't have the Pizza Planet truck or the Luxo ball in it? That's just a shame... >:(
So, anyway, they kind of allude to the Luxo ball here in the this scene. Lucius and Bob drive out of an alleyway on their way to rescue people from a fire, and on a building on each one is painted Andy's and Luxo Deli:
After Bob gets the holographic image from Mirage that asks him to be a superhero again, he sits back to take in his shrine to 'The Glory Days', and on the far left can be seen the Rock-'Em-Sock-'Em Robots from Toy Story 2:
There are actually two references to A-113 in this flick. The first is the number of the room where Mr. Incredible is asked by Mirage to go for a conference. Mirage just states the room number verbally and it's never shown, but this is the room Mr. Incredible ends up in:
But when Elastigirl is peaking in on Syndrome's men, she sees on a monitor from where the rocket containing the Omnidroid was launched. Level A1...: (http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/14/06levela1.jpg)
When Edna is showing Helen all of the new costumes she's made for the family, she hands Helen a tracking device saying that the costumes can be located via GPS. When Helen presses the button, it targets Pixar's Emeryville, CA studios:
So then the DVD comes out, and it has a new short on it called Jack-Jack Attack, which recounts what happened with Kari and the baby while the Parrs were off doing superhero stuff. In it Kari places Jack-Jack on the floor with several toys including the Luxo Ball:
Also, the ring toy seems to have returned, but it's not the same one as before. This one seems made of wood and doesn't have the white plastic rocking base that the other one had. Also, if you go back and look above at the dentist's office toybox in Finding Nemo again, you'll see that little wagon and a jack-in-the-box that's similar, too.
Next up: Cars
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: xtopave on September 13, 2009, 03:58:30 PM
So here's the stuff from Cars, a flick I was a little underwhelmed with the first time I saw it, but it seems to get better with subsequent viewings. Although some of the soundtrack music still makes me cringe... :D
I just realized that despite this flick being directed by John Lasseter (who also directed Luxo, Jr.) the Luxo ball, nor a pattern like it does not appear in Cars...
At the beginning of the film as we are introduced to Lightning McQueen, we can see that he (and inevitably all the other race cars) are driving on Lightyear Tires:
In this shot from the opening race, we track through a bunch of camper-trailers and painted on the back of one of them is the jackalope from their short Boundin' (which premiered with The Incredibles):
The oil giant in the Pixar universe, Dinoco, last seen in Toy Story 2 comes back as the Piston Cup sponsor - this sequence is from when Lightning McQueen fantasizes about winning the race and becoming Dinoco's spokescar:
During the 'Life is a Highway' montage, you can spot for a brief second the birds from their short For the Birds (premiered with Monsters, Inc.). These are also the only non-automotive-based lifeforms shown in the movie - for instance, even when flies are shown they look like little cars (if I can remember, I'll post a cap):
When Mack tries to pull over to get some rest (but Lightning won't let him), the truck stop they pass by has trucks with the initials of Pixar's last few flicks on the side:
And wouldn'tcha know it, but Pixar itself makes a cameo in this flick as three jets fly over during the pre-celebration for the final race they pass by Pixar's Emeryville studio:
Her favorite is Cars. We must've seen it a hundred times and the only thing we had picked up was the lightyear tires.
Well, admittedly, a lot of the things in Cars are pretty well hidden so that's no surprise. I didn't notice many of them myself originally, but luckily I have some references to help me out... ;D
I am with Jack in that respect. That "Life is a Highway" song is really irritating :-\
Thankfully because it was a cover it didn't get nominated for an Oscar because it probably would've won giving it more airplay *shudder*. The Oscar nomination went to the ultra-metamucil "Our Town", written (but thankfully not performed) by Randy Newman with James Taylor doing the actual song. *Yawn*
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: dweez on September 14, 2009, 04:32:58 PM
Speaking of Randy Newman...
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: xtopave on September 14, 2009, 04:41:29 PM
I liked it. :P
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: frankcapri on September 14, 2009, 10:08:18 PM
Those are some awesome spoilers Dweez :D
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Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: dweez on September 14, 2009, 11:33:06 PM
damn, spoiler tags killed the youtube ones.
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: frankcapri on September 15, 2009, 12:15:36 AM
I like that Randy Newman better than the real Randy Newman ;D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on September 15, 2009, 09:18:28 AM
Will Sasso is a very underrated comedian, his Randy Newman is awesome! :D
Okay, so now we get into Ratatouille, which I thought was pretty good for the most part. I can't put my finger on exactly why, but this flick doesn't seem like it was for kids. It seems to be missing a lot of things that would go into average kids fair...
I think Pixar thought so, too as they attempted through a partnership with Disney and Costco to produce a Ratatouille wine. One can only assume that in addition to Costco, it would've been sold in Disney's California Adventure at the winery there:
Someone eventually pulled the plug citing that the use of a cartoon character to sell wine might be a bad idea.
Anyway, before we get into the flick, we have the short that was released before it called Lifted. The human male character is the short is named Ernie, but he is based on an earlier design of Linguini from Ratatouille. I found it kind of odd that they'd release a short featuring their lead character in the feature...
And as mentioned above, Dug from Up appears in silhouette as Remy runs through someone's living room:
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6149/03dug.jpg)
When Linguini finally arrives home with Remy in tow, as he enters his apartment we can see WALL●E's pet cockroach, Hal, crawl down the wall. I was skeptical that this was indeed Hal, but since there are no other roaches in the flick it most likely is him:
Then the next morning after thinking Remy has run away, Linguini checks the 'fridge to see if Remy stole food and we see the Chinese food containers again, although this time the printing is black:
When attempting to get Remy inside Gusteau's for the first time so they can work together, Linguini decides to have Remy hide in his pants. At that point we can see that Linguini is sporting Incredibles underwear:
A short time later, when the two have a pow-wow in the pantry about how their partnership is going to work, Linguini gives Remy a piece of cheese and as he eats it, we can see cans of Nemo Brand Caviar on the shelf with him:
When Remy returns to the nest, there's a party going on, complete with a rat band providing music. Though it's tough to see, the bass player's instrument is partly fashioned out of an Insuricare pencil. Insuricare was where Bob Parr worked in The Incredibles:
Git, the big, burly rat in the back there, was clearly a laboratory rat at some point because he still bears an ear tag. His number designated by the tag is, naturally, A113:
In an interesting choice of model reuse, during the sequence where Linguini and Collette are roller skating we see Bomb Voyage, the French bomber in The Incredibles, now a street mime performing for a what looks like a young Anton Ego, the food critic from the end of this flick:
Last, but not least, when the DVD released, it has a new short on it called Your Friend the Rat in which Remy and Emile regale the viewer with all of the virtues of the rat, hoping to quell some misconceptions. The short uses multiple animation styles including traditional 2-D. Near the end, when Remy explains that rats have followed humans everywhere on the Earth and will more than likely follow us to Mars, they are riding a spacecraft piloted by our good buddy WALL●E:
"Once you power past the gag reflex, your food options really open up." (http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/3771/11gagreflex.jpg)
Next: the other tied-as-my-favorite - WALL●E...
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: ohcheap1 on September 15, 2009, 10:32:52 AM
Do you ever just "watch" a movie Jack? ;D Fab Ratatouille references. I had never heard of the wine, that's cool. And as ususal it was an adventure to see all the things I missed. What's next?
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: xtopave on September 15, 2009, 11:01:26 AM
Beautiful JackFrost. Coinciding with what you say, my daughter didn't like Ratatouille as much as she liked other Pixar movies. At least she doesn't ask to see it that much often. Nonetheless she absolutely loves the Playstation game which is one of her favorites. (Btw she's only allowed to play them on weekends, poor girl).
I loved the colors and the shadows and lights in this movie. :)
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on September 16, 2009, 03:49:06 PM
Do you ever just "watch" a movie Jack? ;D Fab Ratatouille references. I had never heard of the wine, that's cool. And as ususal it was an adventure to see all the things I missed. What's next?
I always 'just watch' a flick the first time, especially if I enjoy it. Once it starts to suck tho', it's pretty much fair game even if it's the first time.
Beautiful JackFrost. Coinciding with what you say, my daughter didn't like Ratatouille as much as she liked other Pixar movies. At least she doesn't ask to see it that much often. Nonetheless she absolutely loves the Playstation game which is one of her favorites. (Btw she's only allowed to play them on weekends, poor girl).
I loved the colors and the shadows and lights in this movie. :)
Huh, that is interesting, it nice to see there's an actuality to my assumption then. What'll be interesting is if she takes interest in the movie once she's older... ;)
I've never played the game, myself.
And I love the colors Pixar uses in almost everything (especially the reefs in Finding Nemo) so I might do some caps that show some prime examples of light color and shadow...
:)
Well, I tried to get the caps from WALL●E, but I was having trouble with the DVD.
It played okay for a minute or so, but then it got hung up. It would sit on the same frame while you could hear the audio continuing forward. The picture would then play super fast to catch up with the audio only to freeze up again.
I took the DVD out and checked the disc for scratches and fingerprints - there are none as this DVD is fairly new.
Every time it hangs in the same exact spots in the same scenes, unfortunately skipping past some things of which I want a cap.
Then I remembered that Disney/Pixar provided a digital file on one of the discs, specifically for playing on computers and such, so I jumped through the necessary hoops and got the file. It has no 5.1 sound and the resolution is several grades below the DVD making for some crappy captures. I'm kind of baffled why they even bothered, honestly.
Anyway, I decided to do some web research and find out if there is anyone else with the same issue and, as it turns out, everyone does.
The reason the disc doesn't play properly is because the copy protection placed on the disc is interfering with playback - I understand that this translates to some DVD players as well, but the disc plays fine in mine...
But, get this: The protection on the disc is so easy to get around that ripping and making copies of the DVD is actually not much of a problem for someone who knows what they're doing (virtually anyone who ever dl'd a torrent, essentially).
Bottom line: This 'copy protection' prevents a legitimate consumer who bought the disc from merely playing it on their computer (and some of their DVD players, too, let's not forget that) but does nothing to actually stop people from copying the disc!
AAARGH!!!! >:(
Anyway, I am attempting to find a way to make it work, but if not I'll have to use my decent resolution AVI file I dl'd awhile back that I made the WALL●E gif from. It's decent quality, but nothing like the actual DVD.
So WALL●E is still forthcoming...
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: xtopave on September 16, 2009, 04:05:05 PM
Bottom line: This 'copy protection' prevents a legitimate consumer who bought the disc from merely playing it on their computer (and some of their DVD players, too, let's not forget that) but does nothing to actually stop people from copying the disc!
::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: frankcapri on September 16, 2009, 04:07:22 PM
Another win for piracy! :D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: goldshirt*9 on September 17, 2009, 02:21:07 AM
::) :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on September 19, 2009, 12:54:25 PM
Well, even after attempting to make a ripped copy from my DVD, it still has to compress the film a bit to fit on a DVD5, so the resolution was still a tad diminished. But we're moving ahead anyway. ;D
In the short before the flick, Presto, when Alec (the rabbit) is pulling tricks out of Presto's sleeve at a rapid pace, a tiny Luxo ball falls out, too:
I really like this flick quite a bit and I consider it to be one of the coolest love stories I've ever seen. I always wondered how many adults thought this one was too dark for their kids, I only know a few whose kids really like it a lot. But the ones that do like it think it rules. :)
So in the Pixar timeline, Buy n Large (BnL), which also appears in Up, pretty much takes over the function of both corporations and the government and all services are rendered by BnL. Which means that they absorbed Dinoco...:
...but somehow chose to let Eggman Movers to remain it's own entity. But check out how their billboard is the old, still, stationary print ones that we know, and BnL's are lighted and animated. Even to the point of obscuring the Eggman Movers ad.:
And these next two are for redlandslide (thank you, sir) who reminded me that I forgot to include the appearance of Eggman Movers in Toy Story...: (http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8811/10eggmanmovers.jpg)
...and Toy Story 2: (http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9556/30eggmanmovers.jpg)
WALL●E marks the first time Pixar integrated live-action people into one of their flicks - I still think it looks a little odd:
And they cast Fred Willard as the smarmy huckster, CEO/President of BnL, Shelby Forthright. They'll eventually show him in a scene where he has the same seal that's hung behind a US president when a speech is given to imply that in addition to being CEO of the corporation, he is president of the country (and possibly the world, we only get to see one part of the globe, tho'):
Some try to say the upside-down piggy bank on the left there is Hamm from Toy Story, but I say thee nay! If you look at Hamm's feet, he has little black cloven 'hooves' which the one in WALL●E doesn't have:
In this pile of junk we can see the scooter Skinner used in Ratatouille. Some sites say that those cones are from Toy Story 2, but I was always pretty skeptical about it, since there are cones all over the movie:
When the ship that brings EVE arrives, and it's targeting lasers scan across several landscapes, it passes one where you can see one of the buoys from Finding Nemo. What's interesting is the implication is that this canyon was once an ocean:
WALL●E makes EVE a little tribute sculpture, that she basically ignores, and he uses a Luxo lamp to fashion one of her arms. I always wondered if she was aware of what he used to represent her head. :D I always was a little bummed that she's floating in the foreground of this shot obscuring part of it - it would probably still be my signature pic.
Some say this is the magician's hat from the Presto short, and while it is a top hat, I'd be more inclined to think it was that top hat, if the accompanying wizard's cap was somewhere nearby:
When WALL●E and the rocket punch through satellite shield surrounding Earth, the one that sticks to his face is Sputnik. Sputnick was the Russian satellite success story from the 1950s that sparked the US/Russian 'Space Race' within the 'Cold War'.
All we ever see these people do is float around in their hover chairs, suck food from cups and visit the pool, and every service is automated. What do these people do for money? :D
Or has Pixar inadvertently shown the horrific end game of dunt - dunt - DAH! SOCIALISM?!?!?! (Oh noes!) :D :P
But i digress...
There are 3 different occasions when the code A113 come on screen. The code is, naturally, Auto's primary function is to take over fundamental control and prevent at all costs the Axiom from returning to Earth as ordered by BnL CEO/President Shelby Forthright. Auto really isn't a bad machine, he just had bad programmers:
I always liked this collection of stuff because it showed how abstractly WALL●E was thinking - also like when he sets the spork between his forks and spoons. Which is why there are other cone shaped things in with the garden gnomes - including the jack which is red and has to points like the gnomes' hats:
Well, that's pretty much all I can do for now since the Up DVD doesn't come out until November and I haven't found a decent digital copy myself. So we'll have to leave off here for a bit. But I do have a couple of things still left. ;D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: ohcheap1 on September 19, 2009, 01:12:26 PM
I know you are totally immersed in your love of this movie. I dont have a copy so I cant look for myself but are there no more reference pieces in that rotary storage wheel that he has in his house? I just remember there being tons of stuff that he had sectioned off and stored. Surprised not to see it here. You're the expert though, I bow to your authority. ;D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: xtopave on September 19, 2009, 01:33:54 PM
Yeah, my daughter didn't like WALL-E. She didn't even finished seeing it. I think it's for bigger children. Knowing her my guess is that it scared her a bit. I think it's an original movie.
Good work as usual. Thank you JackFrost. :)
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on September 19, 2009, 03:11:53 PM
I know you are totally immersed in your love of this movie. I dont have a copy so I cant look for myself but are there no more reference pieces in that rotary storage wheel that he has in his house? I just remember there being tons of stuff that he had sectioned off and stored. Surprised not to see it here. You're the expert though, I bow to your authority. ;D
Believe it or not, among all the forks and spoons, piggy banks, Zippo lighters and garden gnomes there are no Pixar Easter eggs (the one that others think is Hamm would be the only one - but it's not Hamm, so...). I think they didn't put anything there deliberately because some people would be looking. I think that's why things like the Mike Wazowski topper are obscured in plain sight, just to keep it a little more unpredictable.
Yeah, my daughter didn't like WALL-E. She didn't even finished seeing it. I think it's for bigger children. Knowing her my guess is that it scared her a bit. I think it's an original movie.
Good work as usual. Thank you JackFrost. :)
Thanks. ;D 8)
You might have noticed I've been introducing the idea that some of Pixar is for adults since prolly Finding Nemo, and I really think that I'm not just imagining that.
WALL●E there is no real 'dialogue' or singing or anything for the first 40-some-odd minutes of the film. That a tough attention span for even some adults I know let along frisky little whippersnappers. :D
Because even after WALL●E comes Up, Both things are pretty heavy subjects for kids. Don't get me wrong, the sequence is really incredible but it's emotionally heavy, and I don't think some kids are ready for that kind of thing.
Here's hoping you daughter likes it more when she's older. ;)
By the way, xtopave, I keep forgetting to ask you, what do you think of these movies yourself.
In fact, if anyone reading this wants to, give your Top 10 Pixar flick list (there are only 10 including Up) - here's mine (Fixt.):
1. (Tie) Finding Nemo & WALL●E 2. (Tie) Toy Story 1 & 2 3. Up 4. A Bug's Life 5. Cars 6. Monsters, Inc. 7. Ratatouille 8. The Incredibles
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: xtopave on September 19, 2009, 03:20:29 PM
Mine ;D
1. Cars 2. Finding Nemo 3. Toy Story 1 & 2 (It's very difficult to separate them :)) 4. Monsters, Inc. 5. Ratatouille 6. Bug's Life 7. WALL-E 8. The Incredibles
I haven't seen Up :(
Edit to add Bug's Life (thanks redlandslide)
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: redlandslide on September 19, 2009, 05:39:39 PM
My 13 year old daughter adores the Pixar movies, and she's been enthralled by all the hidden stuff you've been posting here. Her two favourite Pixar films are WALL?E and Ratatouille. I haven't seen either of these two yet, or Up, but I'd probably list the order of the others as;
1. Finding Nemo 2. Monsters Inc 3. Toy Story 4. Toy Story 2 5. Bug's Life 6. Cars 7. Incredibles
Jack, you didn't say where Bug's Life ranked in your list, btw.
I posted a link in another thread which claimed the plot for Cars was ripped off Doc Hollywood and WALL?E from Silent Running. Since I've never seen Doc Hollywood, Silent Running or WALL?E I wouldn't know, but thought you'd probably know. Were they?
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on September 19, 2009, 11:50:57 PM
1. Cars 2. Finding Nemo 3. Toy Story 1 & 2 (It's very difficult to separate them :)) 4. Monsters, Inc. 5. Ratatouille 6. Bug's Life 7. WALL-E 8. The Incredibles
I haven't seen Up :(
Edit to add Bug's Life (thanks redlandslide)
That's really interesting that Cars is #1. Most adults I know thought it was boring.
3. Toy Story 1 & 2 (It's very difficult to separate them :))
Yeah, I think so, too. I've got a little trepidation about where they're going with TS3, tho'. Because eventually Pixar's going to make a horrible movie - law of averages says so - but until then, I'll keep enjoying the great movies they produce.
Her two favourite Pixar films are WALL?E and Ratatouille.
Excellent, another WALL?E fan! I like, but don't love Ratatouille, at least not yet. I heard somewhere that it's considered to be one of the best movies about cooking ever made. :)
I posted a link in another thread which claimed the plot for Cars was ripped off Doc Hollywood and WALL?E from Silent Running. Since I've never seen Doc Hollywood, Silent Running or WALL?E I wouldn't know, but thought you'd probably know. Were they?
Well, Cars certainly does borrow quite a bit of the main premise of Doc Hollywood, which has Michael J. Fox playing an bottom doctor who wrecks a small-town judge's fence while on the way to a lucrative job in California and is forced to serve community service. Fox's character eventually learns to love the small town and it's inhabitants. So yeah, they lifted that part of the story more or less whole hog. But all of the racing and the stuff about how progress has ruined some of the character of that area of the US, and Route 66 in particular, is unique to Cars.
But I think WALL?E more pays homage to many space movies includingSilent Running. Granted, Silent Running has an environmental theme where Earth plant life on Earth has died, Bruce Dern's character is the caretaker of a space greenhouse, and there are robots that resemble WALL?E, the story is not as directly lifted as in Cars. At least I think there are significant enough differences that homage seems more apt than direct rip-off.
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: ohcheap1 on September 20, 2009, 09:48:12 AM
This is HARD! But mine:
1. Toy Story 2. Nemo 3. Toy Story 2 4. Bugs Life 5. Monsters Inc 6. Up 7. Wall-E 8. Ratatouille 9. Cars 10. The Incredibles
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: redlandslide on September 20, 2009, 10:58:19 AM
Maybe Incredibles features at the bottom of so many lists because it's the only one (that I've seen) whose main characters are people.
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: ohcheap1 on September 20, 2009, 06:05:40 PM
Well, UP and Ratatouille have humans. I will still watch any Pixar movie at anytime but I would not be as excited if it were my bottom 2. Like i said it was hard to put them in an order. They are all pretty freakin great films.
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on September 21, 2009, 12:37:19 AM
Well, UP and Ratatouille have humans. I will still watch any Pixar movie at anytime but I would not be as excited if it were my bottom 2. Like i said it was hard to put them in an order. They are all pretty freakin great films.
That's why I end up with ties for some of them... ;D
And I think you pretty much nailed it about being able to watch them any time. :)
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on September 21, 2009, 11:59:47 PM
So one other thing that Pixar puts into their flicks actually isn't in the film itself but the credits.
From Toy Story to Up, somewhere near the end of he credits, they will list the Production Babies, so if you don't stay for/get to watch the credits you might miss these. (Especially since they stopped doing bloopers which is kind of a bummer.) These are the children born to anyone involved with a particular project. I don't have the number from Up, yet, but from Toy Story to WALL●E 432 new people were brought into the world(!). Granted, it might be less than that if people works on multiple films and their baby appeared on several lists, but still...
But during Cars, Pixar got biz-zay! 76 children on the list, and I'm pretty sure the names listed at the bottom with the ampersands between are the sets of twins:
That's really interesting that Cars is #1. Most adults I know thought it was boring.
I think the idea was valid, I did think it wasn't as memorable as the others.
And.. for some reason I think Nemo is sad... even though I like it.. and like everyone in it.. So I put it farther down on the list then most people. I don't even know why it makes me feel that way. And, I put The Incredibles higher then most people. I'd have to think more on it before I put them in a firm order.
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on September 23, 2009, 09:42:47 AM
And.. for some reason I think Nemo is sad... even though I like it.. and like everyone in it.. So I put it farther down on the list then most people. I don't even know why it makes me feel that way. And, I put The Incredibles higher then most people. I'd have to think more on it before I put them in a firm order.
That is unusual about Nemo, I mean it definitely has its dour moments, but overall I think it's a very positive flick, not that I'm saying you're wrong to feel the way you do.
Have you ever seen Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind? I'm one of the few people I know of the doesn't see the end of that film as depressing. So it can happen to anyone... :)
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: Skadi on September 23, 2009, 09:46:56 AM
That is unusual about Nemo, I mean it definitely has its dour moments, but overall I think it's a very positive flick, not that I'm saying you're wrong to feel the way you do.
I know.. it's weird. And.. it all turns out fine. But, if I think aout watching it..I' probably pick something else. It was emotional to me in a moe melancholy way then some of the others... maybe that's all. So, it's harder to sit though certain sad moments in it. Where.. something like Monsters Inc doesn't make me sad.
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Have you ever seen Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind? I'm one of the few people I know of the doesn't see the end of that film as depressing. So it can happen to anyone...
*snorts* I actually understand that. The concept of that movie in general makes people think... and I've heard really opposite opinions
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on September 23, 2009, 10:05:21 AM
*snorts* I actually understand that. The concept of that movie in general makes people think... and I've heard really opposite opinions
But the ending is beautiful.
Even after erasing each other from their respective memories, they still meet again and start over because they were meant to be together. That is so cool. :)
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: frankcapri on September 23, 2009, 10:50:33 AM
I definitely agree with that. To me that's one of the reasons I like that movie so much :)
Again, fantastic job with the caps and eggs for these movies, Jack. Awesome stuff 8)
Regarding Pixar, I don't understand why other production companies that make feature length CGI movies screw it up so much and Pixar doesn't.
I watched Monsters vs. Aliens a few days ago, and from the character design to the script/dialogue it pales in comparison even to The Incredibles. Most CGI animated movies I've seen that aren't made by Pixar fail in the same way. I don't understand why these other companies don't just copy whatever formulas Pixar is using. I wouldn't care if people said they were ripping off Pixar because at least the movies would be better in quality.
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on September 23, 2009, 01:00:00 PM
Regarding Pixar, I don't understand why other production companies that make feature length CGI movies screw it up so much and Pixar doesn't.
I watched Monsters vs. Aliens a few days ago, and from the character design to the script/dialogue it pales in comparison even to The Incredibles. Most CGI animated movies I've seen that aren't made by Pixar fail in the same way. I don't understand why these other companies don't just copy whatever formulas Pixar is using. I wouldn't care if people said they were ripping off Pixar because at least the movies would be better in quality.
Have you ever watched any of the interviews with John Lasseter and Andrew Stanton and the crew?
You can really see and hear their enthusiasm when they talk about the movies, and in some cases can really tell that they care very deeply about the characters in the film and making sure the story is logical and works. They have rewritten their flicks entirely based on the fact that they run into a place where the story falls apart or some aspect becomes more interesting than one they'd started with. Other studios would just press on and make it 'work' somehow and not care too much that it didn't.
If you see the flick 9, you'll know what I'm getting at...
Also, some of Pixar's story ideas were in existence for years before they ever got around to realizing them. Apparently the ideas that became Toy Story, A Bug's Life, Finding Nemo and WALL●E all came about in the same lunch meeting and were written on the same napkin. So two flicks were partial ideas for over 10 years before they got made.
I think it's also because Pixar's sole focus is animation where the other animation houses are simply divisions of a bigger studio.
In my opinion, Pixar makes the universes of their films 3 dimensional before they even render a frame of animation and that gives each one the depth and character it needs to be believable and engrossing.
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: Skadi on September 24, 2009, 06:53:34 AM
Even after erasing each other from their respective memories, they still meet again and start over because they were meant to be together. That is so cool. :)
True. ..er.. or not >_< I'm not a good judge of that movie. My ideas shift about having that option in real life. I agree thought that it was a happy ending.
You can really see and hear their enthusiasm when they talk about the movies, and in some cases can really tell that they care very deeply about the characters in the film and making sure the story is logical and works. They have rewritten their flicks entirely based on the fact that they run into a place where the story falls apart or some aspect becomes more interesting than one they'd started with. Other studios would just press on and make it 'work' somehow and not care too much that it didn't.
^ I totally agree with that, and it shows. And it's why we get attatched emotionally to their movies. Even well thought out little choices. Like.. I'm sure one of the reasons I liked The Incredibles is because Sarah Vowell did Violet's voice. And also why Wall-E is so good. It wasn't slapped together based on market research of what would be trending for the next season.
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on October 16, 2009, 05:01:29 PM
So I went to see the 3-D versions of Toy Story & Toy Story 2 and honestly, Pixar did a great job retro-fitting those flicks for 3-D.
The 3-D really enhances some parts of each film, and there are spots where you forget that you're just watching a 3-D image and not actual objects. :D
The sequence at the end of TS2 where they rescue Jessie from the cargo hold of the plane is fantastic and looks even more than it did like little dolls jumping around on a big ol' airplane.
But a very cool thing was since this was intended to be a double feature by Pizar, they added a bunch of trivia and behind the scenes stuff to show on screen during the intermission. Several voices appear including John Ratzenberger and Wallace Shawn, who will shout incorrect answers and make commentary when the answers are finally displayed.
Also they showed an early test for Toy Story that involved Woody as a ventriloquist's dummy and Buzz is instead 'Tempus from Mars'. Disney apparently balked at this version initially because 'the cowboy is a jerk." :D So the characters got a redesign...
Here's a thing from The Pixar Story that eventually has the scene shown in the TS/TS2 3D intermission. It's the scene where Woody traps Tempus/Buzz behind the dresser so Andy can't find him.:
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: xtopave on October 16, 2009, 05:19:32 PM
Seems you had a good time. :)
I don't know if I got attached to the characters in TS but I like much better the ones in the movie.
My mum bought my daughter Up (Some shitty quality movie I don't know where she bought it but anyway...). So we sat down and started seeing it and when the house begins to break and explodes with the balloons she started crying like crazy and she told me she was scared and that was it. ::) ;D I'll have to wait she's not around to see it.
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on November 17, 2009, 12:25:18 AM
Disney was nice enough not to encode the disc so it wouldn't play on my computer, so I managed to find the Easter eggs in...
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1824/01title.jpg)
Needless to say, this is a fairly recent flick, so if you haven't seen it, there are going to be SPOILERS in here, so be warned. I have no idea if these are ALL of the eggs, but they're the ones I was able to find myself, and with the help of a couple of websites.
Here we have the prestigious 'Ellie Badge' which Ellie originally gives to Carl when they meet:
And as it turns out is the bottle cap for the same Grape Soda that appears in the Buzz Lightyear doll ad that Buzz sees in Sid's house in Toy Story. Naturally, the design from Up is clearly an earlier version of the logo:
And while it's charming that they buy and fix up the house where they met, did they really need to start immediately after the wedding? Without removing their wedding gear? :D:
When Carl goes to buy tickets for Paradise Falls for him and Ellie, the bathing beauty from the Knick Knack short is on the cover of the brochure on the counter:
When I saw this in the theatre, I distinctly remember the construction equipment bearing BnL logos, the same BnL from WALL●E, but they aren't there on the DVD:
And here in this little girl's room are the Luxo ball, a picture that seems to show Kevin and Dug from later in the flick, and a pink bear that's supposed to be a major new character in Toy Story 3:
And that dog (presumably Epsilon) holds up a menu for Gusteau's from Ratatouille, and Muntz tells him, "Surprise me.", which is what Anton Ego says to Remy and Linguini:
There are definitely SPOILERS in this next section. These aren't Easter eggs but a little commentary from me on some of the very realistic expressions Pixar was able to place on these characters.
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: xtopave on November 17, 2009, 09:32:54 AM
I've just seen part of it but I had noticed luxo ball. ;D
Seeing Muntz striking that door with the rifle makes me think he can steal a role from Mr. Eastwood. ;D
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: dweez on December 01, 2009, 08:46:50 AM
Just saw Up so I could finally come back to this thread. Here's a link to another forum with Up EE's as well.
Yeah, I checked that thread and they hadn't come up with anything that I hadn't found already, but I check back in case they do. But sometimes those guys get a little zealous and find questionable 'eggs'...
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: Robin-Graves on December 02, 2009, 03:02:12 PM
Yeah,, dash my hopes and dreams to the ground
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: Skadi on December 03, 2009, 07:52:41 AM
Pixar shorts were on tv last night. I was busy, so I just got to see here and there pieces. I wished I'd had a chance and just sat down and watched them straight through.
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on December 03, 2009, 09:48:32 AM
Pixar shorts were on tv last night. I was busy, so I just got to see here and there pieces. I wished I'd had a chance and just sat down and watched them straight through.
I know they made a DVD with just the shorts on it, so you could try and find that - too bad Demonoid is still down...
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: Skadi on December 03, 2009, 09:56:15 PM
true dat
Title: Re: Pixar Love
Post by: JackFrost on June 01, 2010, 01:51:27 PM
Went to Disneyland yesterday (on a free pass - huzzah!) and picked up a new souvenir :):
I'm showing it to my daughter and I'm telling her this is the real deal. She doesn't believe me. :( :D
It came in a three-pack with a red and blue ball, both of which had Toy Story characters on them. Of course, I was only interested in the Luxo ball, so my buddy's dogs get the other two... :D
But it is indeed real, and sitting on my shelf as you read this... ;D