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Biggest flop
« on: November 05, 2009, 01:32:28 PM »
Is Zyzzyx Rd (2006) the biggest flop of all time? US box office gross revenue was $30, readjusted to $20 due to a personal refund.

I thought: Glitter (2001) or The Adventures of Pluto Nash (2002)
were the biggest flop of all time. Pluto Nash (2002); the sets were nice, the dancing at the start was very creepy (synchronized dancing), it lacked something, an average film overall imho.

What is the biggest flop of all time and what films were flops and became cult classics?
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Re: Biggest flop
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2009, 01:52:21 PM »
I don't know about flops, but I do know what is one of the highest grossing films of all time. You would be surprised at what it is.

I don't want to post what it is as that's not what the thread is about.  :-\

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Re: Biggest flop
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2009, 02:24:12 PM »
The Rocky Horror Picture Show was a tremendous flop, but it has one of the largest cult followings of any film ever made. With the longest theatrical run in film history, 34 years after it's initial release it is still showing on some movie screen somewhere, usually at a Midnight Movie showing with the audience performing the film as it plays.

Plan 9 from Outer Space is arguably the worst film ever made (tho' Glitter does give it a run for that title) but it also has a sizable cult following. But then it's director, Ed Wood tends to have a cult following of his own based on how earnest he was in making truly awful movies.

I'll try and think of a few more if I can...  ;D

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Re: Biggest flop
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2009, 02:43:36 PM »
I'm pretty sure some movies now are made to be intentional/accidental flops. Which is sort of a weird concept. They're not parodies. They're not accidenatally bad, or funny because they're out of date. They're intentionally made bad. And that kind of steals the fun out of their 'badness'.

I like cult films that are either B movies that are unexpectedly good. Or, movies so bad, that they're good.

Movies meant to suck from the beginning are stupid...like ThanksKilling. And, movies meant to be good that suck, are unbearable to watch...like Pearl Harbor.


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Re: Biggest flop
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2009, 02:51:08 PM »
Town & Country (2001) ?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0141907/business

What did they spend $90 Million on ?
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Re: Biggest flop
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2009, 03:13:53 PM »
I recall Waterworld being a box office bomb atthe time, recouping no where near the $175 million it cost to make.

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Re: Biggest flop
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2009, 03:27:00 PM »
And, movies meant to be good that suck, are unbearable to watch...like Pearl Harbor.


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Re: Biggest flop
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2009, 03:49:12 PM »
^ I have no sound :P I'll have to watch it when I get home. Actually I never saw the real movie, just 5 minutes of it to see how bad it was. That's the perfect example of getting hyped over new CGI technology, then epic failing the attempt. I never saw Town and Country. And, Waterworld I always try to watch.. and I just get super bored after a couple of seconds of it.

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Re: Biggest flop
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2009, 05:12:24 AM »
Personaly, I liked Waterworld. But ill be he first to tell you I watch some warped movies.
 Honestly, alot of the movies I like arent the typical Hollywood mainstream buslls**t that everyone flocks to the theater to see.
 Romero's Day Of The Dead was a comercial flop.
It opened in only rathole theaters and didnt do very well at all.
But with Land Of The Dead ( hollywood taking control of a genius's idea) Day saw a resurgence of popularity.
Even Diary Of The Dead did pretty good compared to what it would have without the making of Land.

 I movie I thought that should have flopped hard was he last Indiana Jones movie.
 The Grindhouse movies ( Death Proof and Planet Terror ) were made on shoestring mudgets but actualy DIDNT flop.
But they were made that was on purpose and were better for it.
 Then,, theres movies that shouldnt have flopped but did,, the sequel to The Rocky Horror Picture Show ( System Shock,, which I liked and named a finishing move after, and had it patented) is in virtual obscurity.
 And,, my all time favorite ( sarcasm) that SHOULD HAVE flopped,, Tittanic.
My favorite part was the credits,, mainly because I knew the pain was overwith.
I keep my standards low.
That way im never disapointed.

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Re: Biggest flop
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2009, 05:54:02 AM »
Town & Country (2001) ?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0141907/business

What did they spend $90 Million on ?

No idea. Reshots, script rewrites, director took control for his vision, but it failed. What about Evan Almightly? That cost around $200 million to make.
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Re: Biggest flop
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2009, 07:37:49 AM »
Yeah,, concidering Jim Carry gets anywhere from 20 to 50 million just to appea in a movie, it gets expensive.
 Thats where most of the budget goes,, paying these high priced actors who are in movies just for name recognition.
Look online for how much these people get , then look at the movies they were in that didnt make it very far due to thier one dimensional acting.
 Ive seen no name actors do better than the big names that get paid millions just because a movie they were in got some awards and they took the credit.
Then look at the Movie Acadamy and what they voe on and the criteria they go by.
Many times its not an actor, its what the Acadamy feels like doing.
The English Patient won all these awards in America, and didnt even get into a theater yet.
Same with Waiting To Exhale, won all these awards, the actoresses got all this fame and things, and no one in America ever saw it even though it was " Award winning in the US".
I keep my standards low.
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Re: Biggest flop
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2009, 10:07:47 AM »
For the record:

The sequel to The Rocky Horror Picture Show is actually called Shock Treatment...  ;)

Jim Carrey was in Bruce Almighty, Steve Carell was in Evan Almighty. Although Carell's star was on the rise, so he might've gotten a hefty check for that flick...

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Re: Biggest flop
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2009, 11:07:11 AM »
For the record:

The sequel to The Rocky Horror Picture Show is actually called Shock Treatment...  ;)


Sorry about the wrong name for the Rocky Horror sequel,,its been since about 2003 since Ive seen it,,

Once again,, my apologies
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Re: Biggest flop
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2009, 11:09:37 AM »
According to IMDB :

$5,000,000 for Evan, only $500,000 for Virgin
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Re: Biggest flop
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2009, 11:15:26 AM »
Sorry about the wrong name for the Rocky Horror sequel,,its been since about 2003 since Ive seen it,,

Once again,, my apologies

poo, RG, no worries, I was just tryin' ta be helpful...  ;D

According to IMDB :

$5,000,000 for Evan, only $500,000 for Virgin

Wow, that's a pretty substantial raise!

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Re: Biggest flop
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2009, 11:43:39 AM »
Im in the wrong business
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Re: Biggest flop
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2009, 04:24:23 AM »


I am sure Avatar will be joining the list soon
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Re: Biggest flop
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2009, 09:13:57 AM »

I am sure Avatar will be joining the list soon

They've been predicting James Cameron will have a tremendous flop since Aliens, and so far it really hasn't happened.

Even The Abyss and True Lies still made millions and have huge fan followings even if they weren't received to the same scale as the rest of his films.

So I seriously doubt Avatar will be an out-and-out flop.

But I am really astonished by how much venom people are spitting at the film and it hasn't even come out.

Virtually everyone I've talked with is vehemently against the film and is hoping it fails.

Other than maybe people's residual disdain for Titanic, I just don't understand this attitude.

Has everyone forgotten the man also wrote and directed the 2 good Terminator movies and Aliens?
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Re: Biggest flop
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2009, 02:25:46 PM »
You know how fanboys/girls are.
Theyll trash somehting to sound cool, and then watch it religiously in thier bedrooms disguised as a nun so no one will know they liked it.
 I know how the game is played.  Ive seen people trash KISS and then go buy the new album and memorize the lyrics.
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Re: Biggest flop
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2009, 02:04:12 PM »
i never listen to critics the slag off / love it
just to get air play.
I'm off to see it as soon as it comes out.
I like to turn off my brain sometimes and just be entertained

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Re: Biggest flop
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2009, 03:27:44 PM »
Yeah,, same here.
With all the acolades the Lord Of The Rings movies had, I still prefer the Star Wars saga.
 To me all the LOTR movies were about was a couple of gay midgets walking to a volcano and some fighting in between scenes of them walking.
There was only one Return movie, and it wasnt Of The King.
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Re: Biggest flop
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2009, 04:28:24 AM »
I wish people would stop quoting clerks.

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Re: Biggest flop
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2009, 09:23:35 AM »
Its true though.

Maybe I ought to quote Socrates last words ( I Drank WHAT??!!!)
I keep my standards low.
That way im never disapointed.