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Title: FINALLY! They take this seriously
Post by: Santafer on July 26, 2009, 12:09:06 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/26/science/26robot.html?_r=2&ref=global-home

"A robot that can open doors and find electrical outlets to recharge itself. Computer viruses that no one can stop. Predator drones, which, though still controlled remotely by humans, come close to a machine that can kill autonomously.

Impressed and alarmed by advances in artificial intelligence, a group of computer scientists is debating whether there should be limits on research that might lead to loss of human control over computer-based systems that carry a growing share of society?s workload, from waging war to chatting with customers on the phone."


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About time!
Title: Re: FINALLY! They take this seriously
Post by: chekovsulu on July 26, 2009, 06:32:20 AM
I was about to post the same thing.  It is a nice idea they introduce limits, although I've always assumed they'd use Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics.  However, like in that robot film, there's going to be some organisation or person that'd completely ignore the agreed rules and make the Matrix happen (unless it's aready happened, the scoundrels).  Probably the government's military branch.  What makes it more scary is the wireless electricity that's also recently been invented.  Rebel robots won't need to know how to look for power sockets, nor will they need batteries!  I suppose it'd be easier for John Conner to take out a group of robots though, because all they'd have to do is blow up the power plants (which would probably be heavily guarded, but I'm sure Sarah Conner trained him well enough).  http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article6726097.ece
Title: Re: FINALLY! They take this seriously
Post by: Santafer on July 26, 2009, 08:40:36 PM
The problem with human is that we don't know when to stop. We are always "BUT WHAT IF---?" and try something new. Not a bad thing, but well thats how we invented those thing that can kill us.
Title: Re: FINALLY! They take this seriously
Post by: dweez on July 26, 2009, 11:28:32 PM
Necessity is the mother of invention.
Title: Re: FINALLY! They take this seriously
Post by: Discover99 on July 27, 2009, 09:31:57 AM
The problem with human is that we don't know when to stop. We are always "BUT WHAT IF---?" and try something new. Not a bad thing, but well thats how we invented those thing that can kill us.

true
Title: Re: FINALLY! They take this seriously
Post by: mishca09 on July 27, 2009, 04:59:32 PM
if they do set limits im sure there will be some loop hole , that allows an organization to get around it and make whatever it is they want ot make. I hate those automated service things, but their extremely cheap for a company to run... I think its like 32 cents per call.
Title: Re: FINALLY! They take this seriously
Post by: Robin-Graves on August 16, 2009, 07:08:15 PM
Advance and be mechanized.

No matter what we humans do, we will find a way to kill ourselves off. Looks like we may see a war against the machines in my lifetime.
Title: Re: FINALLY! They take this seriously
Post by: frankcapri on August 16, 2009, 08:24:23 PM
That'll be a very short war. The Terminator mythos is too kind to humans in the future  ;D

It is a nice idea they introduce limits, although I've always assumed they'd use Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics. 

I totally agree.  The first time I read I, Robot I wondered why something like that wasn't hard wired into all robots and computers  :-\

It's not like the signs aren't there

http://www.thelocal.se/19120/20090428/ (http://www.thelocal.se/19120/20090428/)
Title: Re: FINALLY! They take this seriously
Post by: laama on August 17, 2009, 02:41:58 PM
I am not fan of robotics.

In question technology is too easy to make tools to war,or espionage tools.
Title: Re: FINALLY! They take this seriously
Post by: Robin-Graves on August 17, 2009, 07:45:33 PM
So true.....
I remember when the hand held calculater was " nifty"
Title: Re: FINALLY! They take this seriously
Post by: chekovsulu on August 20, 2009, 11:56:02 AM
I still want a remote control in my watch!
Title: Re: FINALLY! They take this seriously
Post by: laama on August 20, 2009, 01:07:21 PM
I still want a remote control in my watch!
Who do you want control?
Title: Re: FINALLY! They take this seriously
Post by: Robin-Graves on August 22, 2009, 07:12:33 PM
I just got a new cellphone thats a PDA and a bunch of other things.
Im waiting to see if it transforms into a small robot or something. lol