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Volcanic ash.
« on: April 16, 2010, 04:26:51 AM »
Most people must have heard that a lot of Europe is under an immense cloud of volcanic ash.  Down here in London we should not be as badly affected as further north but I swear the clouds look different and I am finding it harder to breathe?  Anyone else in the U.K think that things are a little odd?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/apr/16/volcanic-ash-cloud-grounds-planes
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2010, 04:54:01 AM »

on a side note... :P

The year Mary Shelly wrote Frankenstein, Mount Tambora had erupted, and it changed the look of the sky, and weather for the season. Some of the images she saw are documented in letteres to her sister, and the same imagery shows up in the book. And, the bad weather is what also kept them inside for longer periods of time then they'd planned, so probably gave her more time to write.   

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Re: Volcanic ash.
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2010, 05:32:59 AM »
Today's got a few wispy clouds, seem normal though. Looking at the radar on the news I don't think it's over Liverpool anyhow, it is over London though. It just mentioned on Sky news if the ash starts to settle and you have respiratory problems, stay indoors.
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Re: Volcanic ash.
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2010, 05:49:04 AM »
I'm seeing a little blue breaking through now but earlier the clouds looked like a freshly ploughed field - sort or clouds in hair curlers? 

I tune into the news and see what gives.
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Re: Volcanic ash.
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2010, 07:07:04 AM »
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So you managed to persuade it to skip round Liverpool and smack us southern bas-tads in the mouth?


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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2010, 07:30:30 AM »
Some of them need it the way they dodge the word filter like they do.  >:( ;)
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2010, 09:33:25 AM »
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Some of them need it the way they dodge the word filter like they do.  >:( ;)

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Re: Volcanic ash.
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2010, 09:34:33 AM »
I remember when Mt St Helen went up.
It affected our weather here for a couple years.
This thing is going to mess with Western Europe bad. You guys have a fragile ecology as it is.
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2010, 10:23:09 AM »
It really hotted up here today so I decided to brave it and go play some football with the kids.  Once the clouds had cleared the air quality seemed to improve but this unique type of eruption has put a lot of silica in the atmosphere which no doubt is going to cause some problems further down the line, like for agriculture for instance.
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2010, 10:26:00 AM »
beautiful blue sky in leicester
cannot wait till sunset though  ;D
a big bonus for me is my boss is stuck in singapore  :D
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Re: Volcanic ash.
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2010, 01:47:13 PM »
Quote from: christ on April 16, 2010, 01:05:00 PM
I just had to drive 500 miles home because no aeroplanes are flying.

I am now officially grumpy - and upset with Iceland. Driving 500 miles on UK roads, on a Friday, including the M5 and the M6, is NOT funny.
plus it is Friday   ouch
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2010, 01:49:25 PM »
The M5 is pretty bad to begin with.
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2010, 01:14:56 AM »
Or trying to go EuroStar between UK - France is other pain in the ass.

Probably some kind of panic hits around Europe and now almost everything is closed.
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Re: Volcanic ash.
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2010, 01:46:36 AM »
no flights till 01.00am now
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« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2010, 10:44:52 AM »
I heard none for the time being.
According to news redports here int he US,, the volcano isnt abating, its getting worse.
 This is a major crisis for Western Europe.
Damn,, makes me worry ,, I feel like " Home " is in trouble.
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Re: Volcanic ash.
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2010, 12:11:26 PM »
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I heard none for the time being.
According to news redports here int he US,, the volcano isnt abating, its getting worse.
 This is a major crisis for Western Europe.
Damn,, makes me worry ,, I feel like " Home " is in trouble.

It is only my mainland European friends that are really being affected by this as their schools here in the uk are closed now while the English stream schools are back on monday.  They had intended to go on holiday or visit the homeland next week but there stuck here in the scorching sunshine..

Worse things happen at sea I'm told.
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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2010, 05:39:42 PM »
After looking at maps,, you guys are only marginaly affected at this point.
 Still, its kinda bad.
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Re: Volcanic ash.
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2010, 05:51:32 PM »
this is what happens when a jumbo flies through volcanic ash




http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5620835202130688048#




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British Airways Flight 9, sometimes referred to as the Jakarta incident, was a scheduled British Airways flight from London Heathrow to Auckland, with stops in Bombay, Madras, Kuala Lumpur, Perth and Melbourne. On 24 June 1982, the route was flown by City of Edinburgh, a 747-200 registered G-BDXH. The aircraft flew into a cloud of volcanic ash thrown up by the eruption of Mount Galunggung, resulting in the failure of all four engines, although the reason for the failure was not then apparent to the crew or ground control. The aircraft was diverted to Jakarta in the hope that enough engines could be restarted to allow it to land there. The aircraft was able to glide far enough to exit the ash cloud, and all engines were restarted (although one failed again soon after), allowing the aircraft to land safely.
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« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2010, 06:53:17 PM »



Millions of stranded travellers face further air chaos as the volcanic ash from Iceland that has closed most of Europe's airspace continues to spread.

An estimated three-quarters of flights were cancelled on Saturday. About 20 countries closed their airspace - some have extended flight bans into Monday.

Scientists say the Icelandic volcano activity shows no sign of abating.

Dutch airline KLM and German airline Lufthansa have carried out test flights to see if it is safe for planes to fly.

KLM said its plane, a Boeing 737, had reached its maximum operating altitude of about 13km in the skies over the Netherlands, and there had been no problems during the flight.

The aircraft and its engines were being inspected for possible damage. After the results of that technical inspection the airline hopes to get permission from the aviation authorities to start up operations again.

Continued... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8627720.stm



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Re: Volcanic ash.
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2010, 04:38:14 AM »
Quote from: christ on April 16, 2010, 01:05:00 PM
I just had to drive 500 miles home because no aeroplanes are flying.

I am now officially grumpy - and upset with Iceland. Driving 500 miles on UK roads, on a Friday, including the M5 and the M6, is NOT funny.

I had the feeling it wasn't some kind of random event.
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Re: Volcanic ash.
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2010, 08:39:06 AM »
NO! :o

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Flight ban could leave UK short of fruit and veg
Air freight problems arising from ash cloud over Europe could leave supermarkets short of perishable products within days

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/apr/16/flight-ban-shortages-uk-supermarkets

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« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2010, 09:43:28 AM »
As i don't take in the news I don't know what's really going on with the volcano. Anyhow I was thinking what if the eruption spewed out volcanic ash for the next 3 years. They would have to reroute all flights and would be costly and we would end up paying up to 4 times the current ticket price to fly.
Just a few days of inconvenience I think nature is being kind to us. ;)
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« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2010, 02:23:17 PM »
When I first read Eyjafjallaj?kull on the news, I thought it was a really bad typo :))

My mum's had to take days off because the flights are cancelled :-\
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« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2010, 03:05:21 PM »
Quote from: christ on April 18, 2010, 01:43:14 PM
It makes a bit of a mockery of all this global warming claptrap.

-- governments and activists (in different measures, of course) all around the world are trying to save the planet one carbon footprint at a time, and Mother Nature takes one look and makes us all look like idiots in a second - how many Jumbo Jet miles are needed to save one second of this eruption?

I am surprised that Greenpeace aren't picketing Eyjafjallaj?kull to get it to stop all of this ash production.

I'm almost tempted to mass circulate that comment to my friends it's so funny - although 'mass' might be a bit of an exaggeration in my case.
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« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2010, 03:59:18 PM »
Quote from: christ on April 18, 2010, 01:43:14 PM
It makes a bit of a mockery of all this global warming claptrap.

-- governments and activists (in different measures, of course) all around the world are trying to save the planet one carbon footprint at a time, and Mother Nature takes one look and makes us all look like idiots in a second - how many Jumbo Jet miles are needed to save one second of this eruption?

I am surprised that Greenpeace aren't picketing Eyjafjallaj?kull to get it to stop all of this ash production.


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« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2010, 07:46:42 PM »
Europe's airlines and airports question flight bans.



Europe's air industry has called for an urgent review of flight bans imposed because of volcanic ash from Iceland.

The bodies representing most European airlines and airports have questioned the need for the unprecedented curbs, which affect millions of travellers.

Airlines that have carried out test flights say planes showed no obvious damage after flying through the ash.

EU Transport Commissioner Siim Kallas said he hoped 50% of Europe's airspace would be risk-free on Monday.

He said the current situation was "not sustainable" and European authorities were working to find a solution that did not compromise safety.

We cannot just wait until this ash cloud dissipates," he added.

Mr Kallas also said EU transport ministers would hold a video teleconference on Monday to assess the situation. About 17 European countries have closed their airspace.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8628323.stm


Europe's air industry is really worried how much they lost and hundreds thousands passengers around the world are stuck in airports,hotels,etc.so angry customers eat them alive soon if nothing happen.
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Re: Volcanic ash.
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2010, 08:08:15 AM »
The ash cloud is due to reach the east coast of the USA in about three more hours, presumably it will have thinned out a lot by then so shouldn't be too much of a problem.
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« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2010, 08:13:38 AM »
Quote from: redlandslide on April 19, 2010, 08:08:15 AM
The ash cloud is due to reach the east coast of the USA in about three more hours, presumably it will have thinned out a lot by then so shouldn't be too much of a problem.

In a round about way it effected the people on the east coast participating in the Boston Marathon. Lots of people had to cancel plans to be there because they couldn't get flights to the event. They recieved vouchers for next year so they don't have to requalify for next year, or lose their entry fees.

And I don't know if people can reach this link.. but SNL did a funny fake interview with Bjork where she sang the volcano a song to help it go back to sleep.

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/larry-king-volcano-cold-open/1219735/
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« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2010, 08:35:21 AM »
Thanks for posting that Skadi! It was one of the few things in an otherwise "bad" SNL episode. Still gonna watch every week but it was B A D.
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« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2010, 09:50:54 AM »
Quote from: christ on April 19, 2010, 09:43:05 AM
No Iceland, Europe said it wanted its "cash" back!

... or: "It was the last wish of the Icelandic economy that its ashes be spread over Europe"
:D :D

It's estimated,that European air industry loss 200 million Pounds per day.

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« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2010, 09:52:39 AM »
Quote from: christ on April 19, 2010, 09:43:05 AM
No Iceland, Europe said it wanted its "cash" back!

... or: "It was the last wish of the Icelandic economy that its ashes be spread over Europe"

Maybe it was caused by the federation of Icelandic alchemists in a failed attempt to boost the economy.

They're not dead yet as they still own half of West Ham.

Be gentle with that last comment, please.


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« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2010, 01:56:01 PM »
It's "Cash, Gas, or Ass" not "Cash, Gas, or Ash".
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« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2010, 01:56:45 PM »
Quote from: christ on April 19, 2010, 11:42:55 AM
"West", or "Ham"?

I was referring to what they are worth at this present moment.  So Iceland own the tour bus, all the crockery in the canteen and Robert Green (alright, Bob was thrown in for good measure).
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« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2010, 02:06:04 PM »
Bob was added so they could get the free shipping?  :D
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« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2010, 02:13:14 PM »
These lightning pictures are awesome :)

The Iceland volcano Eyjafjallajokull continued to erupt on April 19, sending out a plume of ash and lightning and offering a rare glimpse at the mysterious electrical phenomenon known as a ?dirty thunderstorm.?

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« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2010, 02:52:00 PM »
Quote from: christ on April 19, 2010, 02:40:39 PM
Cheer up, it's only three - nil.

(So far. heh.)

So.. how's Portsmouth FC doing this season?
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« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2010, 01:53:15 PM »
please no footie.


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« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2010, 09:29:09 AM »
Football!!! YAY!!!!!
 Nice pics Skadi.
Heminds me a little of a trip i made to Hawaii once all those years ago.
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