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TV / Movies / Re: TV WTF
« Last post by 6pairsofshoes on Yesterday at 01:59:33 PM »
I think that a good series needs either a good source, or a good team of makers (or both, but I'm not sure that has ever occurred). And a defined ending*.

I think the primary problem with WoT is that it was written without real characters: most of the participants are cyphers designed to further the story in various ways. This makes bad TV.

GoT (or ASOIAF) is different: GRRM writes characters that are interesting, but it is dangerous to care about them, as he has a habit of killing them off. It makes for good TV, because they do stuff, and despite yourself you do care. Where GRRM stopped writing, the suits were clueless.

Dune 2 is way better than Dune 1, but between them they only cover the introduction to the Dune saga: In the first book (2 movies) the kid wins, but in the next book he becomes the monster: in the rest of the saga the author attempts (with limited success) to show how the "continual evil emperor cycle" is broken.

* this is the bit that rendered several potentially great shows into rubbish (Lost, Heroes, even X-Files - amongst thousands of others. Great ideas, great starts, sagging middles and no ending)

I'm afraid I never got to see any of those other shows.  Sounds like I shouldn't bother.  I'm still smarting from the lost hours of my life devoted to watching Earth: Final Conflict.  Now, I think it's better to catch up on my reading than risk the frustration of too much bad tv.
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General Discussion / Re: Local News
« Last post by 6pairsofshoes on Yesterday at 01:57:24 PM »
The general public are not the target for the current crop of "Republican" politicians, their core (if not only) audience is the large body of Americans that are fed up with "progressive leftism"; the same body of people that truly and deeply believe any and all conspiracy theories, and don't care for democracy because it lets the woke-left dominate thinking through the deep state and subversion of the media. And for those people she absolutely definitely is leader material. As far as they are concerned, she has the courage to do things that are unpopular with the pinko-commie-fags, and the strength of character to stand by her beliefs. I find it odd that the same constituency that supported and fuelled McCarthy currently prefer Russian leaders to elected American ones.

These "Republicans" are betting the farm on that core audience outnumbering the rest in a count, so that they can permanently subvert democracy in their favour.

I agree with you except on the last point.  The genius of the modern GOP is that they are a minority party that has managed to prevail against the will of the majority of voters by taking advantage of spurious redistricting that splits Democratic leaning districts in ways that favor GOP candidates, and also there's the train wreck of the Electoral College.  A majority of Americans would never have suffered a first Trump administration, let alone the threat of a second one.  I can't explain South Dakota and Noem's electoral success.  Maybe the water has been polluted via too many agricultural chemicals and the brains of the populace have been affected to vote against their own interests.
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Make you laugh / Re: Things that made you laugh today
« Last post by 6pairsofshoes on Yesterday at 09:59:12 AM »
I'm reading a book about anti-gravity. I can't put it down.
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General Discussion / Re: Local News
« Last post by 6pairsofshoes on Yesterday at 09:53:49 AM »
Yeah.  She's super tone deaf.  I watched her in an interview with some CNN reporter and she seemed like someone who really loved makeup and enjoyed avoiding answering tough questions.  She's also super loyal to Trump, despite any questions about his potential conviction on any number of indictments.

I think "I hated that dog" is going to sink her.  Nobody in their right mind who is an animal lover (and that's about 90% of Americans) would think shooting a wayward puppy in a gravel pit is the appropriate solution to an adolescent dog who could have benefitted from the right training for a different owner.  I think that it reveals more about the owner than the puppy.

So putting her second in line to having access to the nuclear codes would be kind of a bad decision.  I can foresee the thought processes that stem from her solution to that dog:
Having troubles with North Korea?  Nuke 'em. 
Putin getting out of hand?  Nuke him.  But in that scenario, the gravel pit is planet Earth and the rest of us will have to suffer the consequences.  She sure isn't leader material.
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TV / Movies / Re: TV WTF
« Last post by 6pairsofshoes on Yesterday at 09:48:11 AM »
Tricky for TV, I guess.

Like in Dune where the whole series can be summarised as "we have all seen the boy that fights the evil emperor and wins, but what happens then? Does the boy then become the evil emperor and restart the cycle?", the point of the WoT books is not the people, but the cyclic nature of things: the characters are just a means to illustrate the complexities of going round in the circle (and the "magic" schema is an attempt to distance the saga from all the others that do the same). It is difficult to see how this can be made for the screen (like Dune), because on the screen the makers want the audience to care for the characters and, as you note, to identify with the characters; hence we have to have one of each ethnic group, gender and religion in every group.

GRRM's adaptation solved the problem by regularly killing folk - often while they were copulating, so people were invested in the experience without really caring about the characters - the makers' problem in that case was guessing the ending (which was doomed to fail, as there won't be one. GRRM has painted himself into a corner, and is stuck)

In GoT (the tv series), there were characters that I did care about.  Not here.  amazon prime is capable of producing good series.  I'm watching The Legend of El Cid, which is not bad and the main actor, (El Cid) Jaime Lorente has sufficient range that you care if his character survives all the plots against him (he plays a genial doofus in Casa de Papel).  There's kind of heavy handed character development (bad guys about as subtle as Snidley Whiplash) but you care.  I think that perhaps the problem with WoT is that there's too many moving parts, too many characters, so it just doesn't hang together, despite great costumes, really first rate CGI and probably actors who can act but just have bad scripts.  Because it's generally kind of lame, I tend to watch it when I have nothing better to do.  So the continuity is a problem. 

I've only seen the first Dune movie, which was camp and kind of embarrassing.  I'm sure the more recent ones are more beautiful and compelling.  But, if I remember from the book the main guy who figures out how to ride the spice worms ends up saving people and then becoming an oppressor?  Right?  I'm still kind of pissed at the degeneration of GoT in the final season where people just got personality transplants to become new characters and behave in ways that beggared belief, and ended up like some kind of summer camp meeting.  So that's another WTF candidate.
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General Discussion / Re: Local News
« Last post by 8ullfrog on Yesterday at 08:43:45 AM »
What she thought she was selling -
"I'm a hard headed decision maker, willing to make the hard decision"

What she actually said -

"I hated that dog".

So it was a ritual killing to soothe the call of blood.
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Make you laugh / Re: Things that made you laugh today
« Last post by goldshirt*9 on Yesterday at 07:42:51 AM »
 ;D ;D
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TV / Movies / Re: TV WTF
« Last post by goldshirt*9 on Yesterday at 07:39:33 AM »
Just finished watching We own this city  2022 about Baltimore Police department. 
Gritty

Now watching The Lost Symbol.
I can understand why it warrant a Movie
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Food and Drink / Re: What are you eating / What did you eat.
« Last post by 8ullfrog on April 30, 2024, 11:18:47 PM »
Jalepeno poppers.

Turns out mom didn't wipe down the toaster oven tray this morning, so I got to hear the smoke alarm.

Honestly, I should have checked it myself, but I checked it last night!

The Jalepeno poppers were a winner, and might go into regular rotation. They're such a low fuss, high calorie option. And no tomato!
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Food and Drink / Re: What are you eating / What did you eat.
« Last post by 6pairsofshoes on April 30, 2024, 09:24:45 PM »
For some reason, large dairy companies like Yoplait (General Mills) and Noosa, have decided that the more weird additives and sweeteners you put into yogurt the more people will like it.   Today I got Noosa Delights Key Lime Pie to eat after dinner and it was just sad.  Why don't they just make yogurt?  This was a pale ghost of key lime with some kind of weird custardy binder that didn't work.  Ick.  It was on a promotion so I thought I'd take a chance.  But it was a total fail.
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