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Title: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on March 31, 2009, 02:24:08 PM: Got busted for speeding today. >:(

I was doing 51 mph in a 30 mph zone, which might sound bad.

But there is only one road into the place where I stay and it is about a mile long up a hill so steep I have boarded down the middle of the road before, there is a single pavement down one side with no house's only fields on either side. I will take a few snap of it.

There were two cop's, good cop, bad cop, what an bottom the bad one was. I managed to talk my way out of an on the stop fine, I will know within six month if I am going to court or not.
Title: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on March 31, 2009, 02:34:42 PM: It never rains, but it bless'ed pisses down.
Title: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on March 31, 2009, 03:07:52 PM: Quote from: smokester on March 31, 2009, 02:34:42 PM
It never rains, but it bless'ed pisses down.

QFT

They wave me down, so I pull in they start to reverse back, all the other cars are weaving out and in between the two of us. This is the start of it.

Me I will pull in up the road a bit down the side street.
Cop That means I will have to reverse up there or walk up.

So the cars are parked.

Cop Name and address.
Me Why, all you have to do is punch in my registration number and you will get all the info you need.
Cop It doesn't work that way.
Me Yes it does. Enter the plate and it will access the police national database, the DVLA database, the insurance database and MI5's database within 4 seconds.
Cop Where do you get your information, your bless'ed smart.
Me A lot bless'ed smarter then you, going by the glaikit look on your face.
Cop We have a right smart scallywag here.
Me Told your before, a lot smarter than you.

They do their check's me and the car are totally legal.

Me After you have checked my tyres you should check you own.
Cop What do you mean I check the pressure in them this morning.
Me Your back tyre is bald.
Cop No it's not, there is 1.6mm thread on it, I checked this morning.
Me So where are the six tyre wear indicators across the full tyre.
Cop That's it I have had enough of your "ya smart scallywag, I sending a report to the Procurator Fiscal, I'm going to get you done with reckless driving"
Me Are we done here, have a nice day.

His manner and attitude were terrible (I didn't help I suppose), if he had been cool and nice, I would I put my hand up and said guilty I was speeding. There was a bit more said then this to get my back up and the place where they had their speed trap was in the wrong place it should have been in the main street not the access road. :-\
Title: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on March 31, 2009, 03:20:50 PM: Traffic cops? or chancers?

Traffic cops are the most ingorant of all coppers and they cannot see reason if it smacked them in the face - which is what I wish it would do. I have been nicked at 38 in a 30mph twice by the same plonker and he started a personal crusade against me. He used to hide behind a boarding (motorcyles don't forget) every morning and wait for me going to work. He knew when I was late too so he'd move on a bit as he knew when I didn't see him in the usual place, I'd hack it down the A40 and he'd catch me in full flight. I paid out more money on fines, than I did on petrol.
Title: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on March 31, 2009, 03:35:31 PM: :D Funny you should say that.

When I mention the tyre's he said "don't tell your granny how to suck eggs" (it's a Scottish saying, don't know if you have heard it before) and that he had been in traffic for 15 yrs and was only back on the beat for 2 month's, the other cop was a local one who I have seen before and he was ok about everything, explaining that they had a few complaint about speeding cars, but he knew it is all the young ones that fly about the place (I think he would have let me off with a warning :-\ )

I went back out and tried to go up the hill at 30 mhp I was in third gear and I tried to explain that to him.

Your right traffic cops are thick as golly, that's why they are in traffic they are not smart enough to do real police work.
Title: Boys in blue
Post by: JackFrost on March 31, 2009, 10:35:08 PM: I like the way you handled that cop, indie. :D

I especially liked that part where you pointed out that his tires were inadequate... :D
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: ohcheap1 on April 01, 2009, 08:27:18 AM: And another difference between here vs there. The first smart ass word out of your mouth to any police officer in the States and you're done. I actually have to psych myself out while Im waiting for them to walk from their car to mine to keep my mouth SHUT. I know that comes as a surprise......... Answer their questions as "kiss assedly" as you can and then and only then can you make causal conversation. Kinda like giving a dog a bone. Once they are laying down knawing at it you might be able to get away.
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Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: dweez on April 01, 2009, 08:41:49 AM: /me reads oc1's statement and nods his head furiously

My name is dweez and I approve of this message
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on April 01, 2009, 09:01:45 AM: Police over here don't carry guns, so what they gonna do?

When I have had the misfortune to be talked to by the fuzz in mainland Europe, those shiny weapons in holsters do have a way of make what comes out of one's mouth more.. "polite". Where I live is one of the toughest boroughs in London, but the police are real gentlemen and actually quite helpful. But as I have mentioned before, traffic cops are just born to be ignorant sons of bitches.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: ohcheap1 on April 01, 2009, 09:12:04 AM: The weapons has absolutely nothing to do with my intimidation. It the monitary value of the ticket they are gonna write you!! ;D
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on April 01, 2009, 09:17:29 AM: Quote from: ohcheap1 on April 01, 2009, 09:12:04 AM
The weapons has absolutely nothing to do with my intimidation. It the monitary value of the ticket they are gonna write you!! ;D

If they are going to give you a fine anyway, you should have the right to tell them exactly what you think of them in a manner that wouldn't be considered "polite". I haven't had the bottle to do that with armed police as it would undoubtedly be folly.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: dweez on April 01, 2009, 09:18:14 AM: Quote from: ohcheap1 on April 01, 2009, 09:12:04 AM
The weapons has absolutely nothing to do with my intimidation. It the monitary value of the ticket they are gonna write you!! ;D

And they poo they can put you through to make your life miserable.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: ohcheap1 on April 01, 2009, 09:32:40 AM: Quote from: smokester on April 01, 2009, 09:17:29 AM
If they are going to give you a fine anyway, you should have the right to tell them exactly what you think of them in a manner that wouldn't be considered "polite". I haven't had the bottle to do that with armed police as it would undoubtedly be folly.

Oh no...it is not just "A" fine. It will be unsurmountable by the time they are through with you if you dont keep your yap shut. And, if someone were to put in as much of their .02 as Indie did I wouldnt be surprised if they hauled your ass to jail labeling "probable intoxication"
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on April 01, 2009, 09:43:57 AM: I have told traffic cops that were taking the piss by writing the ticket out at a snail's pace, that they have 5 minutes and then I am off and they'll just have to catch me (which they couldn't). I very nearly did it once but thought better of it, and opted instead to walk over to a hamburger stall and chat to the guy there while the Frank "Ponch" Poncherello wannabee was still writing. I shouted over for him to take his time as my tea was too hot - loved the look on his face when I did.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: JackFrost on April 01, 2009, 10:45:46 AM: I jaywalked across a street near the campus where I work because there were no cars coming either way. However, I also didn't notice the motorcycle cop on her bike on the other side.

She came cruising up to me on the sidewalk riding against the flow of traffic.

"Y'know that's really dangerous jaywalking like that," she tells me.
"Really?" I say, incredulously, "Anything like riding your bike against traffic flow on a path designated for pedestrians? Worse or better?"
She cleared her throat and began immediately issuing me a citation.
"You know, I'm a big boy and I can look both ways before crossing?"
"There are signs posted that forbid jaywalking."
"Yes, and they're just as ridiculous. Y'know, you seem like an intelligent lady," I told her, "it's a shame that you're wasting your time on crap like this."

She wordlessly hands me the ticket and I've never seen her sitting on that street since.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: dweez on April 01, 2009, 10:52:07 AM: I'd go to court for that one, just to point out to the judge what she did.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Skadi on April 01, 2009, 11:36:25 AM: Quote from: smokester on April 01, 2009, 09:43:57 AM
I have told traffic cops that were taking the piss by writing the ticket out at a snail's pace, that they have 5 minutes and then I am off and they'll just have to catch me (which they couldn't).

LOL..you might have eneded up on World's Wildest Police Videos :D

heh the cops always love me. I look very sweet and innocent ::)
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on April 01, 2009, 05:06:56 PM: You know,its been my experience that most cops were picked on little kids and this is the way they get back at people.
Here in Oklahoma, most cops are "good ol' boys" who think having a badge makes them tough.
Ive known many cops that hide under thier beds when off duty.

I DO know a few good cops,,but even they agree that the majority are idiots.
I had a cop drive into my driveway to give someone a ticket once, according to him he could be there anytime he wanted, until I called the local Chief Of Police ( my sons godfather) and informed him of my Lack Of Rights.
The offending officer was promptly fired for the good of the city.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Skadi on April 02, 2009, 07:44:49 AM: Quote from: Robin-Graves on April 01, 2009, 05:06:56 PM
I DO know a few good cops,,but even they agree that the majority are idiots.

lol..I never thught of that. I bet you're right Robin.

I?ve met some cops that may be overcompensating for a teeny maglite... But in general I run across really good ones. One job I work requires extra security, and they drop by before I even need them. And even though they think they?re doing it covertly so I don?t feel babied, they also follow me part way home lots of times to make sure I?m safe.

And, at my other job, we just had a restraining order taken out against a hot headed creeper. The police showed up right away and escorted him off. And they were extremely helpful in getting the restraining order specs widened.

Even though I?m usually really good in life, I do wonder if I have a naturally occurring gene for anarchy. So, I should have had negative police stories. I do have some minor ones. And, there are plenty of horrid ones that happen to people daily, I completely agree. But the cops I usually run across are sweet, and take their duties earnestly. Maybe I?ve just been lucky.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: laama on April 02, 2009, 12:38:46 PM: Speeding ticket...A great way to start a week. :P
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on April 02, 2009, 01:05:51 PM: This is where I got my ticket, half way up the hill.

Looking up the hill.
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Looking down the hill.
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This speed trap was not set up for any noble cause, such as road safety or saving lives.

It was for the sole purpose of generating money.

Years ago my father told my to remember three things when dealing with the police.

1. Don't be afraid of them, they don't bite.
2. Be cool and calm at all times.
3. Always tell the truth.

I followed these three simple rules when talking to them.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: laama on April 02, 2009, 01:46:43 PM: Hmm...

Maybe they need more money to coffee and doughnuts.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on April 02, 2009, 05:41:43 PM: A small town near where I live was sued by several people when the fact that they had a quota for speeding tickets came public.

The mayor denied it, but several police oficers that were fired for not meeting quota came forward and testified in court about it.
Up till then, it was a nightmare there to drive through. I had to go through twice a day on many occasions, and i nearly had anxiety attacks because of the place.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Skadi on April 02, 2009, 06:26:39 PM: ^ ^ ^
Quote from: laama on April 02, 2009, 01:46:43 PM
Hmm...

Maybe they need more money to coffee and doughnuts.

I always assumed that was just the given. Seriously. That they had to meet quotas. Is that supposed to be some 'unspoken' thing? ???
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on April 02, 2009, 06:32:24 PM: Quotas are illegal here in the states.
We all know many police departments have them,,but they wont openly mention them.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: subvinorosa on April 03, 2009, 02:55:35 AM: I love how you guys handle the police.

Pardon the wall of text but stupid traffic cop always gets me going.

My then 5 year old son and I were walking up the road leading to our former apartment. My son was walking on the shoulder I guess you call it, the unpaved part of the road closest to the houses. A scooter, one of those blowdryer things, comes tearing down the road, weaving back and forth. You know, because it was cool.

As the driver passed me by, his handlebar snagged the strap of my backpack. Up flew the backpack and hit me on the face. The impact was such that the right lens of my glasses popped out. The motorcycle driver went into a skid and left tracks on the road. Not much damage on his part, just a few broken lights.

I snapped. I started screaming and cursing him in a voice loud enough to rouse the dead. That was uncharacteristic of me, really. I was so scared because had the strap gotten stuck, my son and I would have gotten dragged along with him.

The guy was so drunk I could smell the alcohol on him from a couple feet away. It didn't help we spoke different languages. His neighbor told me it was my fault because I was walking on the side of the road. She quickly shut up when I asked her if she thought that walking in the middle of the road was perhaps safer for me and my son?

We ended up at the police station, a traffic cop was called, the driver's pregnant wife begged and pleaded with me to let it go. She said they couldn't afford the fine, they couldn't afford to pay for my glasses, they were very poor, etcetera. I felt sorry for her but her husband was a right jerk.

I have no idea about our driving laws here, comes from not driving I suppose. The traffic cop tells me to settle at the Land Transportation Office. When we get there, the officer asks me how it happened, looks at the ticket and calls for the traffic cop. Idiot failed to list several major violations, like failure to wear a helmet, using a private vehicle as a means of public transport, and more. Traffic cop, the ass, also misled me into believing that the affair regarding my glasses could be settled at the LTO and that the driver wouldn't get his licence back without an agreement. Wrong again.

It pays to have traffic cops as neighbors when you're a drunk and stupid driver.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on April 03, 2009, 03:48:48 AM: Quote from: subvinorosa on April 03, 2009, 02:55:35 AM
It pays to have traffic cops as neighbors when you're a drunk and stupid driver.

Drink driving is a criminal offence and should be treated accordingly. Speeding is a traffic violation and although potentially dangerous, should be treated on its merit. Doing 100 in a residential street should carry severe consequences and poo from the police - you would deserve it. Doing 50 on an open country road, may require a ticket but the "poo" is unequivocally, unnecessary.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on April 03, 2009, 04:02:32 AM: Quote from: smokester on April 03, 2009, 03:48:48 AM
Drink driving is a criminal offence and should be treated accordingly. Speeding is a traffic violation and although potentially dangerous, should be treated on its merit. Doing 100 in a residential street should carry severe consequences and poo from the police - you would deserve it. Doing 50 on an open country road, may require a ticket but the "poo" is unequivocally, unnecessary.

QFT

Quote from: Robin-Graves on April 02, 2009, 06:32:24 PM
Quotas are illegal here in the states.
We all know many police departments have them,,but they wont openly mention them.

That thought had occur to me as well as it was on the last day of the month.

I don't know if quotas are illegal here in the UK or not, but 50/60 years ago before my mother was married she went out with a motorcycle cop in Liverpool. She used to tell me how much that cop hated the end of the month, because he had to go out and bust ppl for no other reason than to fill his quota.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on April 03, 2009, 05:47:49 PM: Let me tell you about an incident I had back in 2004 with a couple trafic cops.
I was jogging down the road about a mile from where I lived ( i did about 4 miles a day).
This cop pulls me over and demands to see my identifacation.
I did what any law abiding american who knew his rights would do, I asked him " why?"
His excuse was that I was running and he wanted to know why.
I told him strait that I was jogging, Im a profesional wrestler and this is one of the many things people do to stay in shape ( he must have been 5 and a half feet tall and over three hundred pounds,,thats 15 stone in the U.K. lol)
He said that he didnt believe me, that he never saw me on WWE.
I said he was impersonating a real police oficer then, since I never saw him on Cops.
naturaly,,Mr Twerp calls for backup. Soon another police car pulls up and out comes another overweight sweaty officer.
He asks whats going from the other officer, then turns to me and says " So , whats your story?"
I told him the same thing I told the other cop.
He replies" I aint never seen you on WWE"
So I told him the same thing, that he was impersonating a real police officer because I have never seen him on Cops>
This caused both of them to start discussing whethter to take me in or not.
I stood there listening to them p[lay out their Three Stooges skit for a few then said " hey,,look, you guys taking me in or not?"
One responded " were trying to figure that out whether we are or not"
I said" well, here is my address" Handing him a business card from my wallet.
"If you do decide to take me in for jogging,,Ill be home in about an hour,,Ill be waiting for you"
And jogged off.
I never saw them again.

Besides,,I thought there was a weight requirement to be a cop.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on April 03, 2009, 06:37:17 PM: Quote from: Robin-Graves on April 03, 2009, 05:47:49 PM
Besides,,I thought there was a weight requirement to be a cop.

Over here you always get a thick one and a thin one ;D

In my case the thick one was the thin one. :D
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on April 05, 2009, 10:13:55 PM: AAhhh,,,the Laurel and Hardy syndrome.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: subvinorosa on April 07, 2009, 07:07:49 AM: True but they were all long standing neighbors and I was the stranger who'd just moved in and could hardly speak the language.

Oh well, lesson learned.

Laurel and Hardy syndrome huh. ;D
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Skadi on April 07, 2009, 05:41:57 PM: Quote from: subvinorosa on April 07, 2009, 07:07:49 AM
True but they were all long standing neighbors and I was the stranger who'd just moved in and could hardly speak the language.

Don't feel bad about speaking the language. In small communities any outsider is an outsider. it proably wouldn't have helped :P

Quote from: subvinorosa on April 07, 2009, 07:07:49 AM
Oh well, lesson learned.

:( ..aww.. that's sad ..and a teeny bit funny at the same time
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: subvinorosa on April 08, 2009, 01:12:55 AM: Yeah, King convinced me to let it go in the end.

Felt really sorry for the wife.

But I'd make trouble for the traffic guy anytime, anywhere I can.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on May 15, 2009, 02:06:09 PM: Got a letter from the Procurator Fiscal today.

10th of June I go to court.

I was thinking about going just to hear what they are saying about me, but I will plead guilty by letter. Don't what to talk myself into 30 days. ;D
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: davidsolomon83 on May 15, 2009, 02:22:09 PM: Wow, isnt it more concerning than that? ???
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on May 15, 2009, 02:34:03 PM: In Scotland for minor offenses, you don't need to go to court you can plead guilty by letter. If I were to plead not guilty I would have to go.

Scottish law is different from English law on same things.

Can you do that in England. :-\
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Methiah on May 15, 2009, 02:43:01 PM: Not wise being a smart arse with the fuzz. Be polite, feign ignorance and don't argue. It can make the process shorter and possibly less painful.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on May 15, 2009, 02:48:20 PM: That's the Traffic Police for you, even the everyday Police don't like them.

I will get a big fine ?300 -?500 :-\ and 3 - 5 penalty points on my license, get 12 and you are banned for a year.

Luckily I don't have any points.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on May 15, 2009, 04:01:52 PM: Quote from: indie180 on May 15, 2009, 02:34:03 PM
In Scotland for minor offenses, you don't need to go to court you can plead guilty by letter. If I were to plead not guilty I would have to go.

Scottish law is different from English law on same things.

Can you do that in England. :-\

If you plead guilty by post the Fixed penalty comes into effect, a practice Harriet Harman likes to do in her spare time.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on May 15, 2009, 05:37:07 PM: I got stopped the other night by a trafic cop. He asked me if I knew why he stopped me and I said that I didnt.
He then wanted me to get out of my car.
When I did I locked the doors. he got a little pissed off then and started nosing into the windows.
I asked if he had a warrant and he said he didnt need one.
I mentioned the ACLU and he let me go.
He was a twerp anyway.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: davidsolomon83 on May 15, 2009, 05:48:35 PM: Quote from: indie180 on May 15, 2009, 02:48:20 PM
That's the Traffic Police for you, even the everyday Police don't like them.

I will get a big fine ?300 -?500 :-\ and 3 - 5 penalty points on my license, get 12 and you are banned for a year.

Luckily I don't have any points.

is that all true Indie? 300 - 500 and so on? Maan, youv'e gotten yourself into some really serious business :-\ ,
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on May 15, 2009, 05:49:52 PM: Quote from: davidsolomon83 on May 15, 2009, 05:48:35 PM
is that all true Indie? 300 - 500 and so on? Maan, youv'e gotten yourself into some really serious business :-\ ,

Here where I live, 10 mph over the limit can be as high as 1000 dollars.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: knownassociate on May 15, 2009, 11:33:02 PM: I have way too much contact with cops, it's one of the few downsides of a biker's life. Something I've noticed is how much information cops give up...one of the many downsides of their stupidity. ;D
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on May 16, 2009, 11:46:40 AM: Quote from: davidsolomon83 on May 15, 2009, 05:48:35 PM
is that all true Indie? 300 - 500 and so on? Maan, youv'e gotten yourself into some really serious business :-\ ,

I will just to wait and see, the wheels are in motion now.

He was going to bust me, even if I had kept my mouth shut. The way he jumped out his van and ran over sticking the speed gun in my face, you would have thought he had just caught Jake the Ripper.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on June 11, 2009, 09:37:47 AM: Quote from: indie180 on May 15, 2009, 02:06:09 PM
Got a letter from the Procurator Fiscal today.

10th of June I go to court.

I was thinking about going just to hear what they are saying about me, but I will plead guilty by letter. Don't what to talk myself into 30 days. ;D

The big day in court was yesterday, waited with my nose pressed to the window all day waiting for the mailman. Nothing.

So I phoned the court to see what the out come was, just to make sure I didn't get banned, so I could still drive.

The court told me, that the case wasn't heard yesterday because the Procurator Fiscal had made a mistake and send it to the wrong district court and that I would have sat there from 09.30 to 5.00 waiting for nothing, he gave me the phone num for the Fiscal.

I live in East Ayrshire and was charge in East Ayrshire, but the Fiscal sent me to South Ayrshire District Court.

So I phoned the Fiscal, after being put on hold for a while until they found the paperwork, he said it didn't go to court because there was a problem with my license, I only gave them the paper part. I told him it was an old one issued in 1984, so he goes and checks the photocopy "your right" he said, "it is an old one".

So they are sending out a new citation for East Ayrshire District Court and I have to fill out all the stuff again and send it back to the same office that made an arse of it in the first place. I told he that they still had my license, "we haven't got it, it was sent the court". I told him that the guy at the court never said anything about them having it and should I go get it from the court or from them, "I don't know, we'll have to look into this, it has never happen before"

So I don't know who has my license or if they have lost it. :-\

Told my dad about what happened, he thinks it should get thrown out of court and that I should see a lawyer.

I wish now I hadn't phoned as they have only 6 months to bring the case to court and there is about 2 months away already, but my call will probably speed things up now. :-\
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on June 11, 2009, 10:16:55 AM: Does that mean if they cannot locate your licence, that they will issue you one of those piddling little photo ID ones? I still have the big old paper one as I'll be damned if I want one of the newer ones, not that I currently own a vehicle of any sorts.

Fingers crossed they won't pursue the case through embarrassment.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on June 11, 2009, 10:24:09 AM: Quote from: smokester on June 11, 2009, 10:16:55 AM
Does that mean if they cannot locate your licence, that they will issue you one of those piddling little photo ID ones? I still have the big old paper one as I'll be damned if I want one of the newer ones, not that I currently own a vehicle of any sorts.

Fingers crossed they won't pursue the case through embarrassment.

I hope so. :-\

I tried to change my address on it as it was still under my Dad addy, but have to send a signed photo and get an ID one. You can use your passport number, but mine is an old one without the chip, so I have to send my passport and a photo away. I didn't want one of the new either, but looks like I'm gone to get one.

My biggest worry was getting fined for not changing my address on my license, it will be a bigger fine then the speeding one. :-\
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on June 11, 2009, 10:33:43 AM: Quote from: indie180 on June 11, 2009, 10:24:09 AM
My biggest worry was getting fined for not changing my address on my license, it will be a bigger fine then the speeding one. :-\

Mine is, and always has been registered at my mother's place. I have been nicked many times for various traffic offences and they always say "you know it's an offence to not have your current address on your licence?", but they have never nicked me for it? Considering that they have nicked me because the split pin in my wheel bolt had fallen out, I figure they don't much care about the address thing?
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on June 11, 2009, 10:43:01 AM: That was the funny thing when I got busted, they didn't ask to see my license or to hand it in to the cop shop, only if I had one unless that's all on the Database to. :-\

I sent it away to get change that afternoon straight after I got nicked, but they sent it back because of the photo thing. Then I was going to court or not as the case turned out.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on June 11, 2009, 05:47:55 PM: I had a ticket once that was done a similar way. It got dropped in court since they didnt have all the info they needed.
Of course the judge was a freind of the family and all.
My brother got ticketed and the issuing officer refused to show up in court since he was on a hunting trip. The case was thrown out of court.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: knownassociate on June 12, 2009, 01:15:53 AM: So you don't have to renew your license every few years?
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on June 12, 2009, 02:26:53 AM: Quote from: knownassociate on June 12, 2009, 01:15:53 AM
So you don't have to renew your license every few years?

My current one was issued in 1990, and doesn't expire until 2034.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: knownassociate on June 12, 2009, 06:04:04 AM: 44 years?! I was happy when I didn't have to renew mine for 5 years!
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on June 12, 2009, 06:14:47 AM: Quote from: knownassociate on June 12, 2009, 06:04:04 AM
44 years?! I was happy when I didn't have to renew mine for 5 years!

You have to renew your licence when you turn 70, so they could last up to 53 years depending on when you passed your test.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on June 12, 2009, 12:27:58 PM: I was talking to a lawyer today and said that the Fiscal had 6 months to bring the case to court from the date of the offense which was on the 31st of April, so hopefully they'll drag their heels a bit and it will be to late to go to court again. :-\

Or is that wishful thinking. :-\
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: ohcheap1 on June 12, 2009, 12:37:39 PM: It what ever you want it to be my friend.......(http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_67.gif)

Spoiler (hover to show)
(http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_6.gif)
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on June 12, 2009, 12:39:59 PM: Aye, I know.

If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have luck at all. ;D
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: ohcheap1 on June 12, 2009, 12:42:09 PM: Oh hush.....I was only teasing. If you were in the states I would have to go with this ^ theory but I dont know about your neck of the woods. Either way, I wish you luck. ;D
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: knownassociate on June 12, 2009, 02:55:37 PM: They don't extremely efficient to date. If they continue handling your case in the same way you may not have to worry. :D
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on June 12, 2009, 02:57:57 PM: I hope so, I was thinking that maybe I shouldn't have phoned. It probably made them get their finger out. :-\
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on June 12, 2009, 04:25:39 PM: Considering this has already been submitted to court, it is unlikely the will give up on it willingly. But considering also that it has become confused, it may well be that they run out of time. Good luck with this anyhow.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on June 12, 2009, 05:21:23 PM: Just thankfull to beurocratic process.
Only they can make something that takes 5 minutes take 5 months to do .lol
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on June 13, 2009, 09:44:20 AM: Quote from: indie180 on June 12, 2009, 02:57:57 PM
I was thinking that maybe I shouldn't have phoned. It probably made them get their finger out. :-\

Aye, new court date is the 15th July at the right court this time, it came in the mail today.

I think I will go this time as I have a funny feeling that my license won't turn up. :-\
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on June 13, 2009, 04:22:40 PM: They may be tyrying to cover an over zealouse cop.
Happens here too.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: HDAngel on June 14, 2009, 03:18:24 AM: Here in the States an adult is required to have a state issued ID or Drivers license on them at all times. You can be arrested for not having a legal picture ID on you. Cops don't take your driver license away from you when they give you a ticket.

Cops used to beat the hell out of you if you talked back to them. Then they would arrest you. Once they got you to the local jail, you would be lucky if you didn't get what they called an elevator ride (stopping between floors and beaten) on you way to your cell. If you rode a Harley you got the crap beaten out of you just for being a "biker." Now most cop cars have cameras on them. Keeps the cops more honest. The cops will still ruff you up if you talk back to them during a traffic stop. They just get you out of the sight of the camera first.

I make a habit of waving or saying hi to all motorcycle cops when I ride. If they know you or your bike they usually don't bother when you go screaming by them on the road. Especially when you've said something nice about their bikes. It's easy to out run a cop car, but you don't want to try to out ride a motorcycle cop.

And if all else fails, a little cleavage still goes a long way when it comes to getting out of a ticket!

Officer did you see that sparkly??? (http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i237/HDAngel8/t298691705_59134_5.gif)
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: knownassociate on June 14, 2009, 06:17:38 AM: Do you have to get a lawyer, Indie?

@HD>Doesn't matter how much cleavage you show if you are one of the designated 'bad guys/girls' on their list... :P
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on June 14, 2009, 08:04:18 AM: Quote from: knownassociate on June 14, 2009, 06:17:38 AM
@HD>Doesn't matter how much cleavage you show if you are one of the designated 'bad guys/girls' on their list... :P

Actually, the more male cleavage you show the more likely you are to get slapped.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: knownassociate on June 14, 2009, 09:02:33 AM: ;D ;D Especially if the cleavage you are referring to is of the 'plumber's' variety, I suppose.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on June 14, 2009, 10:58:31 AM: Quote from: knownassociate on June 14, 2009, 06:17:38 AM
Do you have to get a lawyer, Indie?

No, I don't have to get one.

But I can see this turning into a right mess, if I plead guilty by letter again and my license doesn't turn up, I may get another fine for that.

I think I'll show face for this one. I'll try a lawyer with first 1/2 hour free advice ans see what they say.

It's not that I am trying to get off with it, I am guilty as charged
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: HDAngel on June 14, 2009, 01:12:02 PM: Quote from: knownassociate on June 14, 2009, 06:17:38 AM
Do you have to get a lawyer, Indie?

@HD>Doesn't matter how much cleavage you show if you are one of the designated 'bad guys/girls' on their list... :P
Hey Sis, don't forget I am one of those designated "bad guys/girls" on their list too. I show up to the Bike Blessing every Easter, just to get my picture updated in the family album. And you know us bikers, we're prolly one of the most hugginest groups out there. It ain't love and respect without a hug. Every so many hug's ;) is another picture in the album. You know how it is.

But when I'm out riding solo, I can still get by on a lil cleavage. Even at my age, the girls' are still working it. Your problem is you have to deal with small town cops. We got so many RUBS in the big city the cops don't pay you much attention if you don't have three pieces on your back.

Ooow... officer, what a big, shiny badge you have.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on June 14, 2009, 07:45:23 PM: I had a cop stop me and threaten to beat the hell out of me once just because of who I am.
I told him to take off his badge and his gunbelt and Id be glad to let him try.
He didnt know what to do when I didnt back down.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: laama on June 15, 2009, 05:41:47 PM: Quote from: Robin-Graves on June 14, 2009, 07:45:23 PM
I had a cop stop me and threaten to beat the hell out of me once just because of who I am.
I told him to take off his badge and his gunbelt and Id be glad to let him try.
He didnt know what to do when I didnt back down.
lol RG,looks like you aren't their fan boy list.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on June 15, 2009, 05:48:18 PM: He wasnt on mine either.
I know that cops go through alot of training, but I do think they need to be trained in one thing they obviously arent.
Dignity.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: laama on June 15, 2009, 05:52:07 PM: True.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on June 15, 2009, 05:58:02 PM: Quote from: Robin-Graves on June 15, 2009, 05:48:18 PM
He wasnt on mine either.
I know that cops go through alot of training, but I do think they need to be trained in one thing they obviously arent.
Dignity.

That and Man Management, how do deal with people so they don't go on the defensive with them because of their attitude. :-\
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: knownassociate on June 15, 2009, 09:38:59 PM: Quote from: indie180 on June 14, 2009, 10:58:31 AM
No, I don't have to get one.

But I can see this turning into a right mess, if I plead guilty by letter again and my license doesn't turn up, I may get another fine for that.

I think I'll show face for this one. I'll try a lawyer with first 1/2 hour free advice ans see what they say.

It's not that I am trying to get off with it, I am guilty as charged
Quote from: laama on June 15, 2009, 05:52:07 PM
True.

Receiving a fine because they lost your license seems a bit backasswards to me. At that point it may be time to file a complaint against them for losing your license and request they pay the fine you received for not having it...and then perhaps think about a move to the next county. :P
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on June 15, 2009, 09:42:56 PM: Quote from: indie180 on June 15, 2009, 05:58:02 PM
That and Man Management, how do deal with people so they don't go on the defensive with them because of their attitude. :-\

Yeah, they claim they do what they do to keep the upper hand in a situation.
They for some reason are too stupid to put themselves in the other persons shoes and realize their attitude puts people off.
I know alot of films where another police force had that attitude from back in the 30s and 40s, but the language was a little hard for me to understand because it was in German. :P
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on June 16, 2009, 02:43:19 AM: As indie has pointed out the police haven't really done anything wrong here, they have just failed to use good sense and have exaggerated an otherwise benign situation. The police would argue that if they let someone off an offence, then it would be unfair on the last person they did nick and they have to be consistent.

One of the worst things about speeding convictions is that it puts ?50 or ?60 on your insurance premium - so it is kind of like being fined twice.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on June 16, 2009, 03:06:59 AM: Quote from: smokester on June 16, 2009, 02:43:19 AM

One of the worst things about speeding convictions is that it puts ?50 or ?60 on your insurance premium - so it is kind of like being fined twice.

And in 8 yrs time another ?17.50 (if it stays the same price) to get the endorsement removed.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on June 16, 2009, 03:09:46 AM: Quote from: indie180 on June 16, 2009, 03:06:59 AM
And in 8 yrs time another ?17.50 (if it stays the same price) to get the endorsement removed.

I never knew that. Here they are just ignored after 4 years unless it's a DD.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on June 16, 2009, 03:33:44 AM: Maybe it is 4yrs, DD is 11 yrs I think. After the time has lapsed, they are "spent convictions".

It still stays on your license. After that you have to pay the DVLA to get them removed.

My daughter has just sent away for her provisional license, in the wee book you get with the application form it list's what the charges are. Changing your address is about the only free one.

"Removal of expired endorsements ?17.50"
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: knownassociate on June 16, 2009, 06:18:35 AM: Quote from: indie180 on June 16, 2009, 03:33:44 AM
Maybe it is 4yrs, DD is 11 yrs I think. After the time has lapsed, they are "spent convictions".

It still stays on your license. After that you have to pay the DVLA to get them removed.

My daughter has just sent away for her provisional license, in the wee book you get with the application form it list's what the charges are. Changing your address is about the only free one.

"Removal of expired endorsements ?17.50"

You don't have to take a test?
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on June 16, 2009, 06:21:41 AM: Aye. It's a two part test. One is a written test, the other accesses your driving.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: knownassociate on June 16, 2009, 06:36:17 AM: Ok. Same here. When you said your daughter was sending away for her provisional license, I thought when you came a certain age, you could just send off for it. ;D
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on June 16, 2009, 06:52:54 AM: You have to be 17 yrs to start driving. You get a provisional license which lasts for 2 yrs, in that time you are expected to have learned to drive and passed your test.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: dweez on June 16, 2009, 07:01:46 AM: Sounds like the "learner's permits" you can get here in the U.S. but IIRC, that is only good for 6 months and you can get one 6 months before your 16th birthday.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: knownassociate on June 16, 2009, 07:07:42 AM: 15 and a half here for learners. 16 for regular llicense....with the exceptions poor grades in school, or if one has a juvenile criminal record involving vehicles, then it is 18.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on June 16, 2009, 08:45:23 AM: You can ride a scooter or moped at 16 with a prov licence, but you cannot legally drive a car on a public road until you are 17 and you must have a prov licence beforehand - even then you must be accompanied by someone with a full one. Back in the day you could have a provisional licence for as long as you wanted but you had to renew it every 2 years or something (plus being able to ride up to a 250c motorbike), now I believe if you haven't passed a road test in 2 years, you are effectively barred for a year and then you can re-apply for another prov. However, it changes along with the wind direction so don't quote me.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: knownassociate on June 16, 2009, 11:37:07 AM: And if you are caught driving without a license, or one that has been suspended, about what kind of penalties would those carry?
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on June 16, 2009, 11:53:42 AM: Possibly a large fine and a ban from driving for a period of years or a jail sentence.

I was looking around the net and found this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver%27s_license (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver%27s_license)

This bit was under the UK section.

"For example, subject to fulfilling the other license exchange requirements, a Pakistan or PRC driver's license holder can exchange for a Hong Kong driver's licence first. Then exchange for a United Kingdom full licence and in turn convert for an Ontario province licence in Canada. Then exchange the Canadian licence and for a New York state licence."

This is how easy it is to get proof of I.D. and a driving license of several different countries. :-\
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: MisterAJ on June 16, 2009, 12:26:58 PM: Yeah... you just have to travel to 6-7 countries, and your set... :-\

On a different note, and only related to something said several days ago:

My license expires on the 02.Oct-2079...
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on June 16, 2009, 03:18:11 PM: I know this is a bit of a tangent, but I was getting confused about the spelling of this as I seemed to be the only one spelling it "Licence". I was beginning to think it was an irregular noun and I was the one out of date and then I noticed indie's quote and realised that it is probably more usual here in the U.K, and possibly "License" is more an international spelling?

Here's a U.K one:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XkyaXZ1rRaU/RycJd9G4ySI/AAAAAAAAArw/M8dA3rw5-wI/s400/UK+driving+licence.jpg)

Just saying, as I thought I was going mad... again :)
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on June 16, 2009, 03:28:49 PM: For my part, I have been spelling it right but the spell check(which is probably American) kept underlining it in red so I changed it to the given option. :-\

From the Wiki Page.

"A driver's license, driver license, driver licence, or driving licence (see spelling differences)"
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on June 16, 2009, 03:37:12 PM: Quote from: indie180 on June 16, 2009, 03:28:49 PM
For my part, I have been spelling it right but the spell check(which is probably American) kept underlining it in red so I changed it to the given option. :-\

The spellcheck in my head was driving me nuts and needed closure. I feel much better now.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on June 16, 2009, 06:09:09 PM: Quote from: indie180 on June 16, 2009, 11:53:42 AM
Possibly a large fine and a ban from driving for a period of years or a jail sentence.

I was looking around the net and found this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver%27s_license (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver%27s_license)

This bit was under the UK section.

"For example, subject to fulfilling the other license exchange requirements, a Pakistan or PRC driver's license holder can exchange for a Hong Kong driver's licence first. Then exchange for a United Kingdom full licence and in turn convert for an Ontario province licence in Canada. Then exchange the Canadian licence and for a New York state licence."

This is how easy it is to get proof of I.D. and a driving license of several different countries. :-\

I can ( and will probably ) get an international license for 50 dolars usd for two years.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: MisterAJ on June 16, 2009, 08:29:24 PM: Quote from: smokester on June 16, 2009, 03:18:11 PM
"Licence"

I'm a dyslectic... I bow down to the almighty spell check... always...

Quote from: smokester on June 16, 2009, 03:18:11 PM
Just saying, as I thought I was going mad... again :)

You are... again...

Go check yourself in... RIGHT AWAY!
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on June 16, 2009, 08:39:28 PM: I went mad for a while. It did me a world of good.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: MisterAJ on June 16, 2009, 09:15:12 PM: ;D ;D ;D

Been there, done that, my friend....

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: knownassociate on June 17, 2009, 10:51:19 AM: I got stopped yesterday. Young cop, one who has a reputation as an <bottom>. I gave him my license/licence, registration and insurance card. I told him this was going to be the second ticket I'd ever received in my whole life. He smiled and asked me who said I was getting a ticket! (Me thinks summer wear has something to be said for it.) And that was it.. No ticket ;D :P

I wasn't allowed to do group therapy. I held an unhealthy influence on the other patients. Even those patients previously unwilling to interact were charted to have been willing participants in all but the last of the disruptions to the daily schedule I planned and staged. <That is from my records. :P They had no sense of humor, shoot, two of the people who worked there, I'd been partying with for years.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on June 17, 2009, 04:34:39 PM: I quit seeing my shrink weeks ago. My opinion is that he was an idiot.
Even stopped taking my meds and feel SOOOOOO much better for it.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: knownassociate on June 18, 2009, 09:22:41 PM: That last story happened years and years ago. Shortly after 2 of my guy-friends came to visit me there and we had an escape. Little did I know till later they had been devising this plan to break me out. . It was the last of my visits to the laughing academy, and the last time I was on meds. ;)
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: knownassociate on June 19, 2009, 03:59:25 PM: A driver is pulled over by a policeman:

Man: Is there a problem Officer?
Officer: Sir, you were speeding.
Man: Oh I see.
Officer: Can I see your licence please?
Man: I'd give it to you but I don't have one.
Officer: Don't have one?
Man: Lost it 4 times for drink driving.
Officer: I see...Can I see your vehicle registration papers please.
Man: I can't do that.
Officer: Why not?
Man: I stole this car.
Officer: Stole it?
Man: Yes, and I killed the owner.
Officer: You what?
Man: She's in the trunk if you want to see.

The Officer looks at the man and slowly backs away to his car and calls for back up. Within minutes 5 police cars circle the car. A senior officer slowly approaches the car, clasping his half drawn gun.

Officer2: Sir, could you step out of your vehicle please! The man steps out of his vehicle.

Man: Is there a problem sir?
Officer2: One of my officers told me that you have stolen this car and murdered the owner.
Man: Murdered the owner?
Officer2: Yes, could you please open the trunk of your car please.

The man opens the trunk, revealing nothing but an empty trunk.

Officer2: Is this your car sir?
Man: Yes, here are the registration papers.

The officer is quite stunned.

Officer2: One of my officers claims that you do not have a driving licence.

The man digs in his pocket revealing a wallet and hands it to the officer. The officer opens the wallet and examines the licence. He looks quite puzzled.

Officer2: Thank you sir, one of my officers told me you didn't have a licence, stole this car and murdered the owner.
Man: Bet you the lying so-and-so told you I was speeding, too!
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on June 19, 2009, 04:04:37 PM: :D I should have tried that one. :D
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on June 19, 2009, 04:45:08 PM: I got to do that!!!!

I once actualy back in 1997 demanded that a cop stop me for drinking while driving.
He was at the stoplight next to me when I did it, we both had our windows down.
I was drinking a Mountain Dew and actualy quoted the law to him that if someone is found drinking ( unspecified in the Oklahoma Stautes) that they were to be stopped, arested and thier licence taken from them, not to mention posible jail time.
I think he thought I was nuts or something.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on July 15, 2009, 11:55:32 AM: I'm glad that's out the way.

After sitting in a court room all day (it closes at 5.00pm), my case was heard at 4.40pm (they must do it alphabetically :-\ ;D)

?180/$240 fine reduced to ?120/$160 for pleading guillty and only 3 points. The fine was about what I thought, but I was looking at 6 points. So happy enough, to pay it at ?10/$15 a week.

And it was down to the cops that I didn't get a fixed penalty fine.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on July 15, 2009, 01:59:35 PM: Yeah, at least it is off your mind now, that is until the basstads stitch you up again.

Out of interest, how much will the 3 points inflate your insurance premium by?
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on July 15, 2009, 02:14:54 PM: I got the car 3 yrs ago, so the road tax was up on the 30th of June, the insurance was up 12th July and the MOT today.

I didn't tell any lies when my insurance company asked if I had any driving convictions in the last year, I will let you know this time next year. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on July 15, 2009, 02:15:59 PM: Give me a mo and I will check confused.com
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on July 15, 2009, 02:26:32 PM: The quote from the AA I had before has went up ?24.

But I can still get fully comp for ?190, the cheapest before was ?160.

So you could say it will go up ?25 - ?30
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on July 15, 2009, 02:31:19 PM: Quote from: indie180 on July 15, 2009, 02:14:54 PM
I didn't tell any lies when my insurance company asked if I had any driving convictions in the last year, I will let you know this time next year. ;) ;D

That cuts both ways. My last speeding conviction came off under 2 weeks after I had to renew my policy, but they still wanted to charge me ?60 as it was still active. So I told them my bike would be in the shop for 2 weeks and I'd renew it after finished and it had passed it's MOT and my licence would be clear then. I also told them it would also give me 2 weeks to look round for a better quote to which they said they could forget the speeding points if I wanted to renew that very day (the bike had been MOT'd 2 months before).

I see your update now and ?25 is nothing to worry about eh? Do you know my original quote for my bike when I first got it was ?2500. I managed to get it down to ?600 by lying about its value, and just before it was stolen it was down to ?260 without the speeding load added on. Living in the smoke can be a madam!!
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on July 15, 2009, 02:43:46 PM: Aye, I probably over valued it at ?4000 so it might come down a bit.

Still haven't had the bill for the MOT yet and it really needs a timing belt (72,000 or 6 yrs), it's done 74k and it's 6yrs old.

If it was winter I would borrow a leg off the wife's tights and make a withdrawal (it's getting to that stage). :D
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on July 15, 2009, 03:22:44 PM: Quote from: indie180 on July 15, 2009, 02:43:46 PM

If it was winter I would borrow a leg off the wife's tights and make a withdrawal (it's getting to that stage). :D

Knowing your luck you'll get tugged for speeding during your getaway!!
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on July 15, 2009, 03:25:19 PM: Quote from: smokester on July 15, 2009, 03:22:44 PM
Knowing your luck you'll get tugged for speeding during your getaway!!

Aye :D
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on July 15, 2009, 03:27:59 PM: Quote from: indie180 on July 15, 2009, 03:25:19 PM
Aye :D

Yes but knowing how dense the cozzers are, they'll ignore the stocking over your head, the sawn-off on the passengers seat, and the bags labelled "swag" in the back..
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on July 15, 2009, 03:38:04 PM: As I have stated before, you always get a thick one and a thin one. ;D
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on July 15, 2009, 08:42:23 PM: Just dont carry any donuts and youll be fine.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on July 16, 2009, 03:28:27 PM: Boys in Blue.

With the Golf at Turnberry (about 20 miles from me), you can't get moving for them, half the roads are closed or they are so congested you have to take back roads, country lanes and farm roads to get anywhere.

Apparently Tiger Woods was in Ayr yesterday and was surrounded by about 200 cops (so I was told :-\ )

But it should be good for the local economy. It's 15 yrs from the last time the Open was at Turnberry. Royal Troon is about 20 miles in the other direction.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on July 19, 2009, 02:43:54 PM: You want o know how bad the cops are in my country? Read a book called " Ambush At Ruby Ridge".
Its a true story,,I just read it and im afraid of cops now.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: laama on July 21, 2009, 03:07:15 PM: Quote from: Robin-Graves on July 19, 2009, 02:43:54 PM
You want o know how bad the cops are in my country? Read a book called " Ambush At Ruby Ridge".
Its a true story,,I just read it and im afraid of cops now.
Cops are similars around the world,they enjoy power which their job gives and they using it wrongly usually without punishment.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: MisterAJ on July 24, 2009, 07:27:57 AM: Cops in Norway are actively going for the ones with clean records...

The pedo-scallywag I told you about, who was clumsy enough to bang
his head into the pavement repeatedly, they don't care about...

But a friend of mine, who has a clean record, was fined on a outdated loitering
law, because he was leaning too far over a railing at a outdoors restaurant
while he was drinking cognac...

A cop used 12 months persecuting him, and they STILL complain about a lack of resources...

every day, I lose more and more respect for the law, and those enforcing it...
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on July 25, 2009, 05:19:55 PM: We have a local cop thats being investigated by the FBI and the OSBI for beating up a bystander because he stepped in the cops way on accident.
I hope they fry the scallywag,, he has a reputation for beating up kids that are out during cerfew.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on July 25, 2009, 05:38:05 PM: Quote from: Robin-Graves on July 25, 2009, 05:19:55 PM
he has a reputation for beating up kids that are out during cerfew.

About 6 months ago we had one got kicked off the force for kicking the poo out a couple of school kids.

He head butted one and punched and kicked the other, both 13/14 yrs old (they were both checky wee bastards, I would have kicked their arse's), but he went over the score.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: redlandslide on July 27, 2009, 03:59:51 PM: I like the police. :)

just kidding.

Quote from: indie180 on July 25, 2009, 05:38:05 PM
About 6 months ago we had one got kicked off the force for kicking the poo out a couple of school kids.

He head butted one and punched and kicked the other, both 13/14 yrs old (they were both checky wee bastards, I would have kicked their arse's), but he went over the score.

We could do with a few like him in Liverpool. There's plenty of teens on my estate that could do with a good ass-whupping.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on July 27, 2009, 04:16:08 PM: Quote from: redlandslide on July 27, 2009, 03:59:51 PM

We could do with a few like him in Liverpool. There's plenty of teens on my estate that could do with a good ass-whupping.

I don't doubt it, but when you live in wee village with a population of about 500 it's a bit much. :-\

What's the population of Liverpool about 5,000,000, nearly the population of Scotland. ?
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: redlandslide on July 27, 2009, 04:53:38 PM: Quote from: indie180 on July 27, 2009, 04:16:08 PM
What's the population of Liverpool about 5,000,000, nearly the population of Scotland. ?

Not quite, although there probably would be if everyone didn't keep bless'ed off down south looking for work. It is the English city with the third highest population (after London and Birmingham) - about half a mil in the actual city, or one mil if you add the surrounding suburbs (Kirkby, Bootle, Huyton etc). The actual area in which I live - Norris Green - currently has a youth population embroiled in a gang feud with neighbouring Croxteth, which has already accounted for the death of eleven year old Rees Jones and several others. In fact a 14 year old boy was shot in the legs at about 10:30 last night in Storrington Avenue, Croxteth, which is the road my eldest two kid's school is on (about 200 yards from my house).

On the plus side there are more police on the streets in the area after the shooting, so maybe the lead will stop flying long enough for the Mrs to get the shopping in tomorrow. :D
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on July 27, 2009, 05:04:27 PM: It's getting to be a sad/bad country we live in, up here it's knife's. There are more youth gang's in Glasgow than London (there are more people live in Birmingham then in the whole of Scotland) and the police are 5 times more likely to be stabbed (it is compulsory for police to wear stab proof vest's), shot, run over or just get the poo kicked out of them than any other part of the UK. :(
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: smokester on July 27, 2009, 05:13:34 PM: Knife crime is still crazy down here in Lambeth and Wandsworth and I believe that worse still, we are becoming desensitised to it. Knives are probably worse than guns as you could argue that pointing a gun at someone in self defence, would pretty much end the situation. With knives, it seems someone has to actually stab someone else before a dispute is resolved.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: indie180 on July 27, 2009, 05:30:25 PM: The boy (24yr old) across the road got 3 mth for B & E and trying to stab the brother of a cop, they all live in the same place as me. :-\
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on August 02, 2009, 08:37:55 PM: Update on the cop that beat up the bystander.
He s now being forced off the force, and people are lining up to kick his ars from here to eternity.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Skadi on January 18, 2010, 03:08:28 PM: I met a bounty hunter today. He had a cruddy business card. If I was a bounty hunter, I would have a kickass business card. Of course... I would never be a bounty hunter... so I guess it's a moot point :D
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on January 18, 2010, 03:14:56 PM: Id like to be one.
I met Duane "Dog" Chapman once,, he was a really nice guy.
I liked him. I had his book and he signed it for me.
If you havent read it,, I beg you too,, its very good.
You know no one on his team carries any real firearms? People have surendered to him just because of his reputation for being a decent fellow.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: chekovsulu on January 18, 2010, 11:18:49 PM: MacGyver's friends the Coltons were pretty good bounty hunters. It was a family business, Mama Colton did all the research.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: MisterAJ on January 19, 2010, 12:36:56 AM: Don't like Dog...

Saw his show once, he nailed this guy, and all that, but in stead of just driving the young boy
who's life is about to be ruined, and who's face gets displayed for the whole world to see, of to jail
like a normal person (you know, sweet and simple, strictly business), he and the crew stood around for
a good long while, WITH the captive, in a crowded parkinglot, WITH the camera crew, and started
praying and singing about jesus, and spouting poo like:
"I want you to promise you'll embrace Jesus, I want you to accept him into your life, bla-bla-bla"...

That did NOT sit right with me...
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on January 19, 2010, 03:29:11 PM: Trye,, that wouldnt sit right with me either.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: nouseforaname on January 20, 2010, 09:52:25 PM: My friend was caught doing 70 in a 35 or something like that. He said that's pretty much him getting his license taken away. That sucks he got caught. Cops here will follow anyone, pull them over for anything and waste the driver's time to go to court for it. Bogus for what I've been pulled over for in the past.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: goldshirt*9 on January 21, 2010, 12:30:51 AM: but he was doing 75 in a 35 zone .
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: nouseforaname on January 21, 2010, 10:53:01 AM: Yeah he's screwed.
Title: Re: Boys in blue
Post by: Robin-Graves on January 26, 2010, 01:30:23 PM: Theyll tow your car here for theat,, some places will just arrest you and throw the key away. It turns into "willfull public endangerment" since the patriot act ( damn that thing is stupid) was inacted