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Title: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: Geemonster on December 10, 2009, 04:58:05 PM
Dunno if i said here that i bent up my toilet cistern,and about 50-60 Gallons of water escaped thru the batheroom floor,through the lightfitting downstairs and into the hall and lounge,before i finally found the stop cockerel and turned of the whole supply.
  Well from that situation,my carpets are cleaner,all i need is a new cistern replacement kit,which'll cost me around ?30.00.
  The lesson i've learned is,go on a plumbing coarse.
It's a license to print money,i know someone who charged ?90 just to be called out,that's before he did any work.
  So in Jan,im getting all the info on a coarse.
For the now i have to pour buckets of water down the toilet to flush it.
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: smokester on December 10, 2009, 05:07:04 PM
Toilet cisterns are not very complicated at all you know. Five minutes research on the intarwebz and you should be able to fix it yourself no problem - or post what the problem is here and I can tell you.
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: Geemonster on December 10, 2009, 05:14:28 PM
I broke the plastic ball that floats up and stops the flow of water,a new cistern kit'll sort it.
  Appreciated anyway Smokes. :)
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: smokester on December 10, 2009, 05:24:36 PM
I broke the plastic ball that floats up and stops the flow of water,a new cistern kit'll sort it.
  Appreciated anyway Smokes. :)

You can buy just the ball/float from any builders merchant and screw it back on. Shouldn't cost any more that a couple of quid and it is far easier than fitting the whole valve.  Another thing is you have to know whether the cistern is mains fed or from a tank, if it is on the mains then you need a high pressure valve in the kit you intend to buy or you'll cause another leak (too much hassle mate, just buy a new float).
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: Geemonster on December 10, 2009, 05:35:28 PM
I believe there's more broken,my housemate Scott broke the whatever when he pulled the lever too hard.
  A new kits prefferable,im a prevention's better than cure person.
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: Robin-Graves on December 10, 2009, 06:07:12 PM
True.
 Best redo everything incase something goes wrong with an older part.
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: smokester on December 11, 2009, 02:31:11 AM
I believe there's more broken,my housemate Scott broke the whatever when he pulled the lever too hard.
  A new kits prefferable,im a prevention's better than cure person.

It sounds like what he broke is the "kingpin" or a "Syphon C-Link" and I'm not sure that will be in you "cistern kit" so you'd better check.  Again this is a component part you can buy from the builders' merchant for a few pence although I have survived for years in the past with a bit of coat hanger.  If that is all, you simply need a float and a kingpin/Syphon C-Link to fix it.
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: Geemonster on December 11, 2009, 04:23:37 AM
I wish you lived near me Smokes. ;D
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: smokester on December 11, 2009, 04:42:40 AM
Have a look to see if it is the coupling at the end of the lever that has broken, it should look something like this:

(http://www.partridges.uk.com/catalog/images/0515_0516_C_link.jpg)

If that is broken, then all you need are the 2 things I suggested and about 3 minutes to fit them - then you'd be back in business to carry on doing your business.
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: Geemonster on December 11, 2009, 04:47:50 AM
The thing that Scotty took out looked like an electric arc welding rod,but the thing that was snapped was white plastic.
  The thing you showed is intact.
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: Geemonster on December 11, 2009, 05:08:57 AM
Did you get my pic message of  my cistern?
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: smokester on December 11, 2009, 05:24:56 AM
I saw the picture you sent me and it looks pretty bad to be honest.  You will need a new "Side supply float valve, arm and float" as that is completely missing and if the bit that Scotty took out is the release below that pin, then you have big problems.  If it is the part above it which is the black arm (in your image and the gold arm in mine below) attached to the inside of the lever, then you can replace that easily and re-attach the syphon link pin.

To be brutally honest, if your pal took out the rod that lifts to flush the system (which is illustrated by the red line in my image), then with all the other bits you are just about replacing the entire cistern and should really do just that (buy a complete new cistern that is) and I would not attempt to fit that (if I were you) without someone's help that knows at least a little of what they are doing.

(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii319/smokeyb53/cistern.jpg)
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: Geemonster on December 11, 2009, 06:18:29 AM
Sage advice if i ever heard it.
  Thanks Smokes. :)
I also need a new valve that lets or cuts the water supply,as the screw is bent thanks to cowboy Scotty.
  A friend said they'd put a tap fixture where the screw was,it'll be easier to turn off the supply with a tap than a screw.
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: smokester on December 11, 2009, 06:37:19 AM
Sage advice if i ever heard it.
  Thanks Smokes. :)
I also need a new valve that lets or cuts the water supply,as the screw is bent thanks to cowboy Scotty.
  A friend said they'd put a tap fixture where the screw was,it'll be easier to turn off the supply with a tap than a screw.

Yeah you're better off with a proper stopcock. Can't your landlord sort all this out for you (presuming you have a landlord).
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: Skadi on December 11, 2009, 06:39:15 AM
I believe there's more broken,my housemate Scott broke the whatever when he pulled the lever too hard. 

yipes! :P

    The lesson i've learned is,go on a plumbing coarse.
It's a license to print money,i know someone who charged ?90 just to be called out,that's before he did any work.
  So in Jan,im getting all the info on a coarse.

I'm sorry you had such a hassle. But, it would be cool if it led to something interesting to do, so that's good.
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: smokester on December 11, 2009, 08:19:44 AM
I'm sorry you had such a hassle. But, it would be cool if it led to something interesting to do, so that's good.

Fixing khazis (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=khazi) = "interesting"?

All I can say Skadi is you're easily pleased.
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: Robin-Graves on December 11, 2009, 11:59:48 AM
I wish other women were as easily pleased as Skadi lmao

Skadi is good people. She puts up with me on here.
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: Skadi on December 11, 2009, 10:34:40 PM
Fixing khazis (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=khazi) = "interesting"?

All I can say Skadi is you're easily pleased.

LOL.. I think plumbing sounds sort of nice. If you were good, you could be your own boss. The money is good. People are really happy once you've fixed their problem. It requires hustle, and problem solving...so you wouldn't get bored. Plus I could wear this cool belt buckle :D

(http://www.occupationgifts.com/media/1311-plumber-belt-buckle.jpg)
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: smokester on December 12, 2009, 04:44:21 AM
LOL.. I think plumbing sounds sort of nice. If you were good, you could be your own boss. The money is good. People are really happy once you've fixed their problem. It requires hustle, and problem solving...so you wouldn't get bored. Plus I could wear this cool belt buckle :D

Most plumbing jobs are quite disgusting Skadi, handling poo and drains full of rotting whatnot is the short end of the stick. and the even shorter end is witnessing people's misery after a leak has destroyed half their property.  You're better off being a carpenter like I am/was, as not only is it friendlier but you are in turn closer to the lord :)
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: Robin-Graves on December 12, 2009, 09:45:28 AM
I was a journyman electrician for a while.
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: Skadi on December 12, 2009, 06:19:53 PM
Most plumbing jobs are quite disgusting Skadi, handling poo and drains full of rotting whatnot is the short end of the stick. and the even shorter end is witnessing people's misery after a leak has destroyed half their property.  You're better off being a carpenter like I am/was, as not only is it friendlier but you are in turn closer to the lord :)

True, capentry is very cool. I'm too clumsy for it, but it's cool :P And I think I'd rather clean out poo then lots of other jobs, like someonne who forecloses on people's mortgages.. or lots of other morally degrading jobs that suck the life out of you :P   
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: Robin-Graves on December 12, 2009, 08:50:23 PM
Like working as a polymer engineer at Kenco Plastics.
That place will leave you a husk.
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: HDAngel on December 13, 2009, 12:51:13 AM
Yah, but don't forget if you become a plumber you have to buy all new pants... they have to slide down your back side when you bend over. Everyone knows a good plumber's gotta have plumbers butt. LOL
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: Skadi on December 13, 2009, 09:38:42 AM
^ ROFL I always misplace my belt anyway.. so I'd fit right in ::)
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: Geemonster on December 13, 2009, 01:13:13 PM
Most plumbing jobs are quite disgusting Skadi, handling poo and drains full of rotting whatnot is the short end of the stick. and the even shorter end is witnessing people's misery after a leak has destroyed half their property.  You're better off being a carpenter like I am/was, as not only is it friendlier but you are in turn closer to the lord :)

I like that. 8)
Title: Re: I flooded my house....almost
Post by: Robin-Graves on December 13, 2009, 01:20:29 PM
^ ROFL I always misplace my belt anyway.. so I'd fit right in ::)

Id just think you were mooning me. lol