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Title: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: frankcapri on March 19, 2009, 10:43:29 AM: A little part of me died today.

I just got an email from my mom. In said email, she used the acronym "LOL".
This is the first time she has used this (or any emotive acronym) in an email to me.

She just recently started to use text messaging on her cell phone.
Before, her emails were the picture of grammatical perfection :'(
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: smokester on March 19, 2009, 10:50:23 AM: Thankfully, my mother would rather pull out here own teeth than to write in newspeak or any other kind of slang. She can only just about tolerate by broad London accent.
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: Robin-Graves on March 19, 2009, 11:21:36 AM: My mother never texts anyone,,she said its a waste ,if you want to use a phone,,call someone.
As for emails,,she barely knows how to turn a computer on.
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: knownassociate on March 19, 2009, 11:24:37 AM: ...lol....well, ya know somebody had to say that.

There is truly something unnerving to hear one's parents use a colloquialism that is learned from their kids. Kind of on the same level as how they must have felt the first time we repeated a bad word they'd let slip.
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: subvinorosa on March 19, 2009, 11:29:21 AM: A new age has been born from the ashes of the old.
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: Robin-Graves on March 19, 2009, 11:34:25 AM: ,,,And is that new age better than the first?
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: smokester on March 19, 2009, 12:24:25 PM: "New age", that made me laugh. Half of London still speak in Cockney or Mockney and there is nothing novel about either...
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: smokester on March 19, 2009, 02:46:08 PM: Quote from: christ on March 19, 2009, 02:29:35 PM
I have never used a smiley, and never will - although I do have an issue with the number between 7) and 9) in lists.

I abhor text-speak, and leet-speak - I use commas, apostrophes and full-stops in text messages.

My kids would pass out if I ever wrote "2" when I meant to or too.

-- although I enjoy poking fun at text-speak, leet-speak and (most of all) Americanisms whenever I come across them.

I admit to being tempted to change to the opposite as a grandparent, just to psych the young 'uns.

I have mainly used PPC phones with qwerties or Nokia communicators for the last 10 years or so, and I write my texts as I would an email. But to be fair, in the days when going over the SMS 160 character limit, meant your text would split and be sent in a mutitude of messages, that then had to be unscrambled by the person at the other end; I did abbreviate like it was going out of fashion.
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: JackFrost on March 19, 2009, 02:58:13 PM: I actually type out every word even on my shitty little cellphone keypad, and I've actually gotten responses where the other person says something like: "you typed all that?"

I've been reluctant to use 'Net acronyms because I like full words and sentences too much...
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: frankcapri on March 19, 2009, 05:12:17 PM: I started using smileys excessively when I started posting on forums.
Originally I did it so people who didn't know me would know when I was
joking around or wasn't being serious. It seemed like many times
people would misunderstand what I was saying without a smiley, and
I didn't want to make enemies over some stupid misunderstanding.

It has since become a habit, but whenever I email messages to people I
avoid using smileys. For some reason emails to me seem more "official".

Quote from: christ on March 19, 2009, 02:29:35 PM
I admit to being tempted to change to the opposite as a grandparent, just to psych the young 'uns.

There's something very entertaining thinking of you doing this.

Grandchild texts, "Pop Pop, what are we going to do today?"

Grand-dad Christ texts, "OMG IDK LOL!"
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: ohcheap1 on March 19, 2009, 05:16:08 PM: Quote from: frankcapri on March 19, 2009, 05:12:17 PM
I started using smileys excessively when I started posting on forums.
Originally I did it so people who didn't know me would know when I was
joking around or wasn't being serious. It seemed like many times
people would misunderstand what I was saying without a smiley, and
I didn't want to make enemies over some stupid misunderstanding.

This is EXACTLY why I use them. I can even remember Brick not realizing I was kidding on certain posts and him commenting that I might try smilies.

Quote from: frankcapri on March 19, 2009, 05:12:17 PM
There's something very entertaining thinking of you doing this.
Grandchild texts, "Pop Pop, what are we going to do today?"
Grand-dad Christ texts, "OMG IDK LOL!"

Hilarious image......Thanks Frank, that was a good laugh.
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: knownassociate on March 20, 2009, 06:24:40 AM: Quote from: ohcheap1 on March 19, 2009, 05:16:08 PM
This is EXACTLY why I use them. I can even remember Brick not realizing I was kidding on certain posts and him commenting that I might try smilies.

Hilarious image......Thanks Frank, that was a good laugh.

Exactly, as OC said. It all started with a smiley to denote humor...then it became 2 smilies, one to display confusion, then three...before I knew it I could carry on conversations using my vast herds of smileys instead of words...jk, kinds of. And leet? Leet I use just to inspire awe in my young hooligan.
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: dweez on March 20, 2009, 06:48:55 AM: I tend to use the smiley's as most hear have mentioned...so that my vocal tone can be translated to the fora.

I also use whatever fake HTML tags I find appropriate, i.e., <sarcasm></sarcasm>, <fingerquotes></fingerquotes>, <facepalm></facepalm>, <venomous_duck></venomous_duck>.
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: smokester on March 20, 2009, 06:59:43 AM: I very occasionally use smilies, but only with the people that need the sentence enhancement. The problem is that the absence of smilies can imply a "tone" of its own, and that is a sad day for the written word.
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: dweez on March 20, 2009, 07:00:46 AM: Yeah, often with the omission of smileys, people tend to take everything as serious and a personal offense...:D
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: smokester on March 20, 2009, 07:02:14 AM: Quote from: dweez on March 20, 2009, 07:00:46 AM
Yeah, often with the omission of smileys, people tend to take everything as serious and a personal offense...:D

Sometimes it can be fun when they do..
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: subvinorosa on March 20, 2009, 08:19:28 AM: I like to watch flaming and bashing and thread derailing from the sidelines, Coke in one hand, popcorn bucket in my lap.

And all because of a missed smiley.
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: dweez on March 20, 2009, 09:44:12 AM: /me imagines it right now
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: knownassociate on March 20, 2009, 11:45:15 PM: Quote from: christ on March 20, 2009, 09:41:58 AM
Yup.

... but equally obscenity, racism, etc. doesn't become funny because of the smiley. I have lost count of the number of people that have said something ridiculously offensive with a "grin" at the end, and then have gotten all bent out of shape when people took offence.

I take the risk. If you need to envisage a smiley in my text, or a sarcasm tag, feel free to imagine their existence.

(but if you imagine a sarcasm tag, please don't forget to imagine the /sarcasm tag as well - I got stuck like that for months, once)
Quote from: dweez on March 20, 2009, 09:44:12 AM
/me imagines it right now

Guess you both thought it was funny when your moms warned you about what could happen to you if you did that!
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: tarascon on April 05, 2013, 10:22:35 AM: Duckspeak

And I quote:
"Duckspeak is a Newspeak term meaning literally to quack like a duck or to speak without thinking. Duckspeak can be either good or "ungood" (bad), depending on who is speaking, and whether what they are saying is in following with the ideals of Big Brother. To speak rubbish and lies may be ungood, but to speak rubbish and lies for the good of "The Party" may be good."
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on April 08, 2013, 07:05:56 PM: An old boyfriend gave me a duck call as a gift once. I loved it. I still have it in storage somewhere.

And I do miss frankcapri. Too bad he's off in the world of parenting...
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: tarascon on May 16, 2013, 07:01:13 AM: Quote from: dweez on March 20, 2009, 07:00:46 AM
Yeah, often with the omission of smileys, people tend to take everything as serious and a personal offense...:D

Are you making fun of me? :(
Spoiler (hover to show)
;) :) :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :P
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: dweez on May 16, 2013, 03:55:36 PM: Quote from: frankcapri on March 19, 2009, 10:43:29 AM
A little part of me died today.

I just got an email from my mom. In said email, she used the acronym "LOL".
This is the first time she has used this (or any emotive acronym) in an email to me.

She just recently started to use text messaging on her cell phone.
Before, her emails were the picture of grammatical perfection :'(

After time, I know believe his mom was using LOL as an abbreviation (acronym really) for "Lots of Love". I've seen LOL used a few places incorrectly like this.
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on May 16, 2013, 04:15:56 PM: It's pretty weird when you find yourself responding in nearly complete sentences of single letters.
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: chekovsulu on July 23, 2013, 04:41:53 PM: i no ryt? lol.
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: dweez on July 23, 2013, 11:14:09 PM: Quote from: chekovsulu on July 23, 2013, 04:41:53 PM
inorite? lol.

fixt
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: patiesmiz on July 24, 2013, 09:07:11 AM: Quote from: christ on July 24, 2013, 01:52:25 AM
As in "Sorry to hear that your husband died. LOL - Grandma."

LOL
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: townie2 on July 24, 2013, 05:56:06 PM: years ago when i got my first computer, and one of my first emails was from a girl i had a bit of a thing for, and when she ended it with LOL, i thought maybe that was what it meant, lucky i was smart enough to Google it before replying ;D
Title: Re: Early Newspeak
Post by: tarascon on January 12, 2014, 08:12:17 AM: Bifil that in that seson on a day,
In southwerk at the tabard as I lay
Redy to wenden on my pilgrymage
To caunterbury with ful devout corage,
At nyght was come into that hostelrye
Wel nyne and twenty in a compaignye,
Of sondry folk, by aventure yfalle
In felaweshipe, and pilgrimes were they alle,
That toward caunterbury wolden ryde.
The chambres and the stables weren wyde,
And wel we weren esed atte beste.
And shortly, whan the sonne was to reste,
So hadde I spoken with hem everichon
That I was of hir felaweshipe anon,
And made forward erly for to ryse,
To take oure wey ther as I yow devyse.
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on January 12, 2014, 10:16:44 AM: Thas olspeak, eh?
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: Maudibe on January 23, 2014, 04:11:20 PM: I have nothing to add to this except I really like the name of this thread ;) it's doubleplusgood
Title: Yarbles but interessovating
Post by: tarascon on January 30, 2014, 06:28:27 AM: ^ It's real horrorshow agreed and needs no appy-polly loggies to govoreet the slovos, my dobby droogs.
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: dweez on January 30, 2014, 11:18:24 AM: I think t just stroked out! :o :o :o
Title: Rasoodock Millicent
Post by: tarascon on January 30, 2014, 06:25:02 PM: Quote from: dweez on January 30, 2014, 11:18:24 AM
I think t just stroked out! :o :o :o

Lol, you bolshy baddiwad oomny chelloveck. :P

http://www.artofeurope.com/kubrick/nadsat.htm (http://www.artofeurope.com/kubrick/nadsat.htm)
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on February 03, 2014, 02:52:41 AM: frankcapri had another child and I think his wife made him call it quits w/demonoid which was such a shame because he kept having crazy funny changes to his profile pix with the red bearded man. we miss him.

Ooo. He on youtube.
Title: Re: Damn You Newspeak
Post by: dweez on February 03, 2014, 09:23:15 AM: Nice! I've subscribed.