Author Topic: Lockerbie Bomber Freed for Oil (Read 9434 times)

indie180 · « **on:** August 30, 2009, 03:42:39 PM »

It was bad enough to let him go in the first place, but for money.

I much prefer the US or the Spanish legal system, a life sentence for every life taken.

The some of Madrid bombers got 43,000 years each in Prison.

smokester · « **Reply #1 on:** August 30, 2009, 04:03:28 PM »

I don't think Brown was ever going to sanction the release of Megrahi and the BP deal was always going to happen with Libya sooner or later. I realise though that this was obviously a sweetner for that deal which is crass at the very least, and for my money it is that pompous arse Mandelson that orchestrated the whole sorry affair - whatever he says in denial.

If he thought this move would give the U.K the moral high ground, the BP deal being finalised on the back of it means that it was no more that a smack in the mouth for the families of lost loved ones.

indie180 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 30, 2009, 04:06:49 PM »

Quote from: smokester on August 30, 2009, 04:03:28 PM

If he thought this move would give the U.K the moral high ground, the BP deal being finalised on the back of it means that it was no more that a smack in the mouth for the families of lost loved ones.

Aye, everyone I have talked to in my area is not happy.

redlandslide · « **Reply #3 on:** August 30, 2009, 06:11:22 PM »

Wasn't the decision to release him Kenny MacAskills? I'm not very clued up on the working of Scottish politics (or English politics for that matter), but could a British Labour Prime Minister really influence a Scottish SNP Justice Secretary's decision and then get him to take the blame? I wouldn't have thought so. The first link on the page Indie posted (Times Online) claims the reason he was released was that there was a real fear that if he'd died in prison, he'd become a martyr and that would open up Scotland to an increased threat of terror attacks.

smokester · « **Reply #4 on:** August 31, 2009, 05:27:30 AM »

Quote from: redlandslide on August 30, 2009, 06:11:22 PM

Wasn't the decision to release him Kenny MacAskills? I'm not very clued up on the working of Scottish politics (or English politics for that matter), but could a British Labour Prime Minister really influence a Scottish SNP Justice Secretary's decision and then get him to take the blame? I wouldn't have thought so. The first link on the page Indie posted (Times Online) claims the reason he was released was that there was a real fear that if he'd died in prison, he'd become a martyr and that would open up Scotland to an increased threat of terror attacks.

That same article states that it was a "British" decision and not solely that of the Scottish government. If it was purely a Scottish decision then the BP contract would have been of little or no importance, meaning it would have had to have been either the British/English government leaning on the Scots, or a direct request. The only person I can see that would benefit professionally from this is Mandelson (him being the British business secretary) and it smacks of his kind of mentality whereby the move could be spun as a humanitarian gesture.

laama · « **Reply #5 on:** September 02, 2009, 02:05:34 PM »

Damn politics,they always cheated sooner or later.

Robin-Graves · « **Reply #6 on:** September 05, 2009, 03:58:19 PM »

Sounds like something from the Bush/Cheney regime here in the US

indie180 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 05, 2009, 04:09:58 PM »

It was today or yesterday that Jack Straw admitted that 'trade agreements and oil were a factor in the release' of a murdering *&^%$?' Scotland has it's own oil and gas fields. The decision came from Westminster, the British Government.

smokester · « **Reply #8 on:** September 05, 2009, 05:35:34 PM »

Quote from: indie180 on September 05, 2009, 04:09:58 PM

It was today or yesterday that Jack Straw admitted that 'trade agreements and oil were a factor in the release' of a murdering *&^%$?' Scotland has it's own oil and gas fields. The decision came from Westminster, the British Government.

The British government cannot make that decision as it has to by law have been made by the Scottish government. Jack Straw admitted that he backed the PTA exclusion along with Kenny MacAskill back in 2007, and that was undeniably from a British perspective, for the benefit of business, although I would presume MacAskill's motive would have been for compassionate reasons. But Jack Straw cannot make the decision to release Megrahi any more than I can, it just means that whatever any British MP says, it was within Britain's interest for Scotland to let him go now in 2009 when the BP deal was close to finalising - and I would guess that people like Mandelson would have made that point clear to the Scots now before Megrahi died.

laama · « **Reply #9 on:** September 06, 2009, 05:14:06 PM »

I can bet,that big brother from US doesn't like this at all.

Robin-Graves · « **Reply #10 on:** September 06, 2009, 07:54:18 PM »

Actualy ,,for the most part,, Big brother and our Dark Masters dont really care lol

laama · « **Reply #11 on:** September 13, 2009, 01:11:53 PM »

Quote from: Robin-Graves on September 06, 2009, 07:54:18 PM

Actualy ,,for the most part,, Big brother and our Dark Masters dont really care lol

Human rights dumped always when big boys wallet are threatened.

Robin-Graves · « **Reply #12 on:** September 13, 2009, 03:22:14 PM »

Look at the Patriot Act here in the US under the Bush /Cheney regime.

We have no rights left.
America,, Land Of the Free? Yeah,,,sure.

Geemonster · « **Reply #13 on:** October 08, 2009, 05:53:50 AM »

Governments are all corrupt in one way or another.
I think each town,county whatever should be autonomous.
He was going to die anyway,what does it matter where to someone like that.
Unfortunately our species is inherrently greedy!

Robin-Graves · « **Reply #14 on:** October 09, 2009, 06:39:14 PM »

Damn the competitve nature of humanity!

Actualy,, id have felt better if someone like that dies in prison.
Actualy,, id prefer in a bus station bathroom in New Jersy, behind the baseboards of said bathroom even,,lonely and forgotten.

laama · « **Reply #15 on:** October 09, 2009, 07:04:47 PM »

Quote from: Robin-Graves on September 13, 2009, 03:22:14 PM

Look at the Patriot Act here in the US under the Bush /Cheney regime.

We have no rights left.
America,, Land Of the Free? Yeah,,,sure.

Business first,human rights are toilet paper in cases like this.

Geemonster · « **Reply #16 on:** October 09, 2009, 08:25:23 PM »

We're the bottom of the barrel unless you've a poo load of money!

smokester · « **Reply #17 on:** October 10, 2009, 07:07:09 AM »

Fer naffs sake cheer up people, it's a Saturday and I have another litre of JD in the cupboard.

Geemonster · « **Reply #18 on:** October 10, 2009, 07:14:43 AM »

I have 6 litres of honey flavour cider & some weed.

smokester · « **Reply #19 on:** October 10, 2009, 07:59:40 AM »

Quote from: Geemonster on October 10, 2009, 07:14:43 AM

I have 6 litres of honey flavour cider & some weed.

Happy days all round then, and I say that with the knowledge that we are both skint

Geemonster · « **Reply #20 on:** October 10, 2009, 08:40:37 AM »

Quote from: smokester on October 10, 2009, 07:59:40 AM

Happy days all round then, and I say that with the knowledge that we are both skint

It would be perfect if not for the sore throat that's getting worse.
The cider'll numb it.

Robin-Graves · « **Reply #21 on:** October 10, 2009, 09:47:03 AM »

I got a gallon of Honey Mead that a pagan freind made for me.
May he allways walk in sunshine! lol

Geemonster · « **Reply #22 on:** October 10, 2009, 11:09:32 AM »

I aquired some really soft black Hashish.

Robin-Graves · « **Reply #23 on:** October 10, 2009, 06:37:10 PM »

Hmmm,,, and im going to be in Amsterdam....

Geemonster · « **Reply #24 on:** October 17, 2009, 02:15:57 AM »

Quote from: Robin-Graves on October 10, 2009, 06:37:10 PM

Hmmm,,, and im going to be in Amsterdam....

Bring me a parcel back will ya?

Robin-Graves · « **Reply #25 on:** October 17, 2009, 04:36:56 AM »

I would,, but te security there is unreal.
I saw cops there armed with tasers. Them things SUCK!

laama · « **Reply #26 on:** October 17, 2009, 02:02:42 PM »

Quote from: Robin-Graves on October 17, 2009, 04:36:56 AM

I would,, but te security there is unreal.
I saw cops there armed with tasers. Them things SUCK!

Security there is joke if you have enough money.

Robin-Graves · « **Reply #27 on:** October 17, 2009, 03:51:56 PM »

Yeah,,like 300 pounds is going to buy me passage from jail

laama · « **Reply #28 on:** October 17, 2009, 06:18:47 PM »

Quote from: Robin-Graves on October 17, 2009, 03:51:56 PM

Yeah,,like 300 pounds is going to buy me passage from jail

300 Pounds is coins,i say that 300k Pounds open doors what you don't even know earlier.

Robin-Graves · « **Reply #29 on:** October 18, 2009, 05:31:27 AM »

So can a healthy disrespect for authority and a bit of blinding violence. lol