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Title: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: smokester on June 02, 2010, 02:10:10 PM

Ok, with a week and a half to go before greatest tournament on earth, what are your predictions as to who'll win it (teams can be seen in my sig).

Of course I'd love England to win but for my money Argentina is the team to beat.  Messi aside, they also have Tevez the former pride of Upton park (always will be in spirit), then there's Aguero, Higuain and Milito to name just a few.  I have no idea why they struggled to qualify as it beggars belief, perhaps it had something to do with their rather controversial manager?

Anyhoo, Argentina is my pick.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: redlandslide on June 02, 2010, 02:30:41 PM
Since no European team has ever won it when it's been held outside Europe then you'd have to favour none European sides. Brazil have won it in every continent it's been held in so far (Europe, S America, N America & Asia) and since this is the first one in Africa you'd have to make them favourites. Having said that, I have a sneaking suspicion the USA will do well this time round and they are my pick.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: AlienBC on June 02, 2010, 02:34:55 PM
Well hope England do ok hang on i don't even know who's playing goodluck anyhow ;)
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: smokester on June 02, 2010, 04:14:52 PM

The USA is an interesting choice, personally I think 80/1 is a little mean.

The teams and grouping can be seen in my sig - assuming people have them turned on?

I might even put a tenner on a Argentina vs Spain final (would pay ?250) but I don't want to put the mockers on England. Mind you, it would give them someone to blame.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: redlandslide on June 02, 2010, 04:26:53 PM
I wonder what a USA v Italy final would pay out?
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: smokester on June 02, 2010, 04:45:58 PM
I wonder what a USA v Italy final would pay out?

They're not giving odds on the extreme outside chances and you'd have to phone them for a price. The most unlikely finalists they have odds on seem to be Argentina vs Portugal, and you can get at least 80/1 on that (more from Betfair I'd guess), but you have to remember that math is involved in that decison as teams would have to finish the groups in a certain position to be able to meet later on in that way.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: redlandslide on June 02, 2010, 06:40:01 PM
They're not giving odds on the extreme outside chances and you'd have to phone them for a price. The most unlikely finalists they have odds on seem to be Argentina vs Portugal, and you can get at least 80/1 on that (more from Betfair I'd guess), but you have to remember that math is involved in that decison as teams would have to finish the groups in a certain position to be able to meet later on in that way.

I went this way.

GROUP A           GROUP B           GROUP C       GROUP D         GROUP E       GROUP F         GROUP G        GROUP H
1. MEXICO         1. ARGENTINA    1. USA          1. GERMANY    1. HOLLAND   1. ITALY         1. PORTUGAL  1. SPAIN
2. FRANCE         2. GREECE         2. ENGLAND   2. AUSTRALIA   2. JAPAN       2. PARAGUAY  2. BRAZIL       2. SWITZERLAND
3. Uruguay        3. Nigeria          3. Slovenia     3. Serbia         3. Denmark    3. Slovakia      3. Iv Coast    3. Chile
4. S Africa        4. S Korea         4. Algeria       4. Ghana         4. Cameroon   4. N Zealand   4. N Korea     4. Honduras

LAST 16
Mexico v GREECE    ARGENTINA v France    USA v Australia   Germany v ENGLAND   HOLLAND v Paraguay    ITALY v Japan
PORTUGAL v Switzerland   BRAZIL v Spain

QUARTER-FINALS
Greece v USA      ARGENTINA v England        Holland v PORTUGAL      ITALY v Brazil

SEMI-FINALS
USA v Portugal      Argentina v ITALY

THIRD PLACE PLAY-OFF
ARGENTINA v Portugal

FINAL
USA v Italy

Interestingly, the winner of the USA/England group has potentially a decent run to the final.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: smokester on June 03, 2010, 06:43:44 AM
Looks good Red and the only thing that could scupper your prediction early on, is that Slovenia could well be a dark horse in this competition.  They have stood up well to most teams, Spain and England included, and stuffed the Russians to qualify.  For that reason I think the USA will struggle to get past the group stage.  Might be interesting if they do though, especially if it is at England's expense.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: AlienBC on June 03, 2010, 07:03:45 AM
You know Smokester looking at redlandslide predictions you only think/hope England gets to the  QUARTER-FINALS LOL well that would seem realistic I suppose. Which gives me the perfect opportunity to ask how can a country that invented devised whatever Football be so bad at it?.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: smokester on June 03, 2010, 07:23:42 AM
Yes, when the draw was made it looked as if England had an almost free ride to the finals.  That said, France in the 2002 World Cup (they were the defending champions don't forget), proved that no group can be considered a walkover.

Team      Pld    W    D    L   GF  GA  GD  Pts
 Denmark    3    2    1    0    5    2    +3    7
 Senegal     3    1    2    0    5    4    +1    5
 Uruguay    3    0    2    1    4    5    −1    2
 France      3    0    1    2    0    3    −3    1
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: xtopave on June 03, 2010, 12:14:12 PM
...I have a sneaking suspicion the USA will do well this time round and they are my pick.

Really?!  :o

For me it's going to be Germany + Italy + Brazil + Argentina. Who's going to win? My heart is with Argentina. But since Brazil always has more culo than football those guys have a lot of chances.  ::)
If there's a Brazil vs Argentina match at any instances I'm going to need heavy medication to stand that whatever the results.  :D
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: chekovsulu on June 03, 2010, 01:07:35 PM
I'm supporting Switzerland because I always do.  I liked them less the last time because of that Frei spitting everywhere, but I'm hoping he's learned his lesson, and the llama has made him less of a mean old poopy head.  Frei is number 9, I was so angry at him.  In Pro Evolution Soccer, I'm number 9 for the Swiss team.

I don't think they'll make it to the quarter finals though.  I like Japan too, because I did a report on them during the 1998 World Cup for my French class.

I don't really care who wins after the quarter finals, because it won't be a team I like :(.  Unless it's Spain or Germany, they have pretty ladies.

I have no idea how well the African teams play, but I'd probably support Nigeria, because one of my flatmates is from there.  Kind of.

I don't think England will do so well, but I will be watching the matches just to go "ROONEY!  ROONEY!  ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONEY!" :)
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: smokester on June 03, 2010, 02:20:24 PM
I was talking to my neighbour downstairs and he too said that the USA has a good team.  He knows a thing or two as he used to play for the Fulham youth team but got a leg injury that ended his professional career when he was still 19.  I can't quite remember who he thought might win it but he held the Ivory coast in high regard along with Italy.

In the end I don't really care who wins if England doesn't, I'm just happy that I have enough beer to compliment the competition.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: xtopave on June 03, 2010, 06:12:53 PM
...he too said that the USA has a good team...
...but he held the Ivory coast in high regard...

In every World Cup these things are said and every time they are proved wrong.  ;)
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: smokester on June 04, 2010, 09:21:37 AM
Hey, I don't think the USA will progress as Slovenia has one of the best defence in the tournament and might sneak through, and I am presuming that England will do well in the group stage.

The Ivory coast apparently looked really good in the African Nations cup when all others looked average, and I have heard quite a few pundits tip them as an outside chance so I will tick their games as 'one to watch' on my chart.

England are also about right at 7/1 I think as Capello does know how to win a game - albeit sometimes by hook or by crook.  I suppose that's a bit like Maradona .. :)
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: xtopave on June 04, 2010, 09:46:04 AM
...albeit sometimes by hook or by crook.  I suppose that's a bit like Maradona .. :)

Crooks? We had even worse than Maradona! Mr. Bilardo for example.  ::) ::) :-[
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: smokester on June 04, 2010, 10:01:42 AM
Crooks?

By hook or by crook (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_hook_or_by_crook)

More reading

By hook or by crook (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/by-hook-or-by-crook.html)
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: xtopave on June 04, 2010, 10:26:55 AM
I understood the meaning well then. It certainly applies for Bilardo's methods.  ;D
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: smokester on June 04, 2010, 11:13:11 AM
I understood the meaning well then. It certainly applies for Bilardo's methods.  ;D

I was actually referring to this outstanding header:

Spoiler (hover to show)

Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: xtopave on June 04, 2010, 11:37:09 AM
Ahhh, the Hand of God!  ::)  Less than 5 min after that he made the Goal of the Century. Does this make up for what he did? Of course not. But I can't help feeling a sweet taste when I remember that.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: smokester on June 04, 2010, 11:53:26 AM

As for every questionable incident that has happened in football (and.or all sporting events), it is ok when it's your team that does it and a ticket straight to hell if commited by the opposition.

In his heyday, Maradona was one of the most jaw dropping players I have ever witnessed, so I very nearly forgive him.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: redlandslide on June 04, 2010, 03:01:15 PM
Hey, I don't think the USA will progress as Slovenia has one of the best defence in the tournament and might sneak through, and I am presuming that England will do well in the group stage.

Slovenia finished runners up in their qualifying group to Slovakia in a pretty weak group. Their two defeats coming against the Czech Republic and Northern Ireland. I don't think England (or the USA for that matter) will be losing much sleep the night before playing them.

The Ivory coast apparently looked really good in the African Nations cup when all others looked average, and I have heard quite a few pundits tip them as an outside chance so I will tick their games as 'one to watch' on my chart.

It said on the news earlier that Drogba's got a suspected broken elbow, that'll mean he'll have to change his diving style.

England are also about right at 7/1 I think as Capello does know how to win a game - albeit sometimes by hook or by crook.  I suppose that's a bit like Maradona .. :)

It also said on the news earlier that Ferdinand's injured already so England might have a chance after all.  :)
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: smokester on June 04, 2010, 04:16:06 PM
Slovenia finished runners up in their qualifying group to Slovakia in a pretty weak group. Their two defeats coming against the Czech Republic and Northern Ireland. I don't think England (or the USA for that matter) will be losing much sleep the night before playing them.

I'm not suggesting they'll go very far in the competition, they won't.  But you do know that they finished the qualifiers with the best defensive record, conceding only 4 goals in 10 qualifiers.  For that reason I think the USA will find it hard to score against them and Slovenia will probably barricade themselves into second position.  We'll see though.

It said on the news earlier that Drogba's got a suspected broken elbow, that'll mean he'll have to change his diving style.

I still think that the Ivory coast will play some of the better football out of the lesser fancied teams, and worth a watch.  I can't help liking Drogba you know, perhaps it is because as a West Ham fan, I like seeing what having someone that scores goals for a football team is like.

It also said on the news earlier that Ferdinand's injured already so England might have a chance after all.  :)

I have no idea what Ferdinand is all about.  Sure he's a big old defender with guts, but I'm pretty sure those attributes are simply job requirements?
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: Geemonster on June 05, 2010, 06:48:47 AM
England should win their group,Argentina should win theirs too.
  If Argentina's squad is as good as 06's they'll be 2nd faves at least.
Who knows?
  Haven't payed much attention to international football much lately.
At least i have 2 teams to root for.  8)
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: Geemonster on June 06, 2010, 08:57:33 AM
I loved Batistuta,he was an awesome player.
   He scored quite possibly the best goal i've ever seen scored,it was a club game for Fiorentina against Arsenal.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: xtopave on June 06, 2010, 09:16:21 AM
The first team he played in was Newell's Old Boys from Rosario (my team and my hometown). He was discovered by Jorge Griffa and Marcelo Bielsa, the best football trainers ever.  ;D

(http://i45.tinypic.com/2elsi69.jpg)

Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: Geemonster on June 06, 2010, 09:20:01 AM
The first team he played in was Newell's Old Boys from Rosario (my team and my hometown). He was discovered by Jorge Griffa and Marcelo Bielsa, the best football trainers ever.  ;D

(http://i45.tinypic.com/2elsi69.jpg)

Cool.  8)
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: Skadi on June 06, 2010, 01:48:17 PM
I almost bought a t-shirt on Saturday :P I had the Italy one in my hand.. put it down for the England one.. then ended up buying neither.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: Geemonster on June 06, 2010, 02:31:07 PM
Im thinking of buying an Argentina indigo change colours shirt for this tournament,i've got a 2006 home shirt and a 2006 England home shirt.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: laama on June 06, 2010, 06:46:02 PM
Argentina is would be excellent choice if they have real coach,not old cokenose.

Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: smokester on June 07, 2010, 03:10:04 AM

My missus' sister has decided to get married on Friday which essentially means I'll miss the tournament's opening game at least (unless there's a TV on at the reception..). 

You see christ, getting married can have far reaching ramifications!

PS.  I am kidding and I am actually quite looking forward to the alternative ceremony.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: Geemonster on June 07, 2010, 06:20:26 AM
Argentina is would be excellent choice if they have real coach,not old cokenose.

Maradona was an excellent player in his time.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: chekovsulu on June 07, 2010, 04:03:25 PM
Im thinking of buying an Argentina indigo change colours shirt for this tournament,i've got a 2006 home shirt and a 2006 England home shirt.
I've only got Switzerland shirts, I rarely get to wear them though :'(
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: laama on June 07, 2010, 05:37:07 PM
Maradona was an excellent player in his time.
Excellent player,but coaching...
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: smokester on June 11, 2010, 04:47:01 AM
With an hour or so to go before the opening ceremony, I have to get ready to go to a wedding  >:(

That'll teach me to count the days for four years.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: redlandslide on June 11, 2010, 05:37:12 AM
If it's like any of the weddings I've been to, expect a kick off at the reception over something trivial to liven things up.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: xtopave on June 11, 2010, 07:46:51 AM
With an hour or so to go before the opening ceremony, I have to get ready to go to a wedding  >:(

I don't care much about opening ceremonies. But the match I'm looking forward to watch.
If it was Argentina you better not plan a wedding at the same time of a match or you can expect desertion.  ;D
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: Skadi on June 12, 2010, 08:25:53 AM
I tried to pick the winner last night on which team had the cutest guys.. but, I couldn't decide :-\ So I'm still guessing.

I actually have off work today and might catch some of the match :o
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: Geemonster on June 12, 2010, 05:54:53 PM
Excellent player,but coaching...

Most coaches are ex players.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: smokester on June 13, 2010, 02:56:55 AM
If it's like any of the weddings I've been to, expect a kick off at the reception over something trivial to liven things up.

Quite the opposite as it was a Caribbean wedding.  Lots of great food, plenty of drink without anyone attempting to consume it all (with at least one exception), stunning women and Calypso playing on what turned out to be a scorching day.  I have to be honest and say by the end of it, I was more irritated with the World Cup interferring with the wedding rather than the other way round.

Missed both games on the opening day - well I did try and watch the France game on my Sky+ when I got in, but if I wasn't sleepy then, that game certainly knocked me out.  Had to work for a couple of hours yesterday morning that turned into another whole day and I ended up having to watch the England game out as it was the first live game I managed to see - not sure I should have bothered. 

Poor old Greeny, how many people worldwide saw that howler? At least Argentina looked everything they should be and I still stand by my pick for the title.


Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: redlandslide on June 13, 2010, 04:26:33 AM
Poor old Greeny, how many people worldwide saw that howler?

When you do a howler like that, no matter what he does in his career from now on he'll always be referred to as "the hand of clod", the same way "calamity James" has dogged David James.
The problem with England was with Heskey playing (who's never likely to score) then the onus is more on Rooney to get goals, and if he's under par (which he was) then England will struggle for goals with that line up. I'd have started with Crouch who can hold it up to give the midfield a chance to join in the attack like Heskey can, plus he's got goals in him. And I'm not sure what was up with Milner, whether he wasn't fully fit or just isn't at international standard, but he was chasing shadows for the short time he was on.
At least the two Liverpool players who started the game were the two best players.  8) :D

Glad you had a nice time at the wedding btw, all the weddings I've been to were family ones so I've not enjoyed them. I don't go to any family do's these days.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: smokester on June 13, 2010, 05:00:17 AM
Those were my thoughts exactly about Heskey and Crouch.  I can understand fielding Heskey in a game like that just to steady the ship, but the sacrifice would always have been with scoring opportunities.

The best blunder from an England keeper was surely P.R's?  I know on closer inspection the ball bobbled but it was spectacular nevertheless:


It was the missus' family and they rarely fall out.  I feel privileged to be a part of it (one of the family) especially when it's one of the bigger events like a wedding, as they are always memorable for the right reasons.  As you can imagine with a West Indian affair there was huge interest in the World Cup games that were playing so the living room was full of both men and women tuning in.  I abstained to be polite (and the fact that the room was too crammed for me to get in) but it has taken the wind out of my interest to be honest, as I don't feel like the competition has started yet. 

An hour ago I had a call from some friends that are having a picnic on Clapham Common so I can't even put my feet up today and watch the early games.  I am going to attempt to cry off with a bad back and send the missus and kids up - which will be like a double bonus to watching some football!!!
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: xtopave on June 13, 2010, 10:31:21 AM
...I abstained to be polite (and the fact that the room was too crammed for me to get in)...

LOL  ;D

...but it has taken the wind out of my interest to be honest, as I don't feel like the competition has started yet. 

Really you didn't miss ANYTHING.  ::)

I woke up late today when the 1st half of the 2nd match was finishing and asked my husband why he didn't wake me up earlier. He said I didn't miss much and he wished he stayed in bed too.  :D
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: smokester on June 13, 2010, 10:37:09 AM

I woke up late today when the 1st half of the 2nd match was finishing

That's odd?  That was exactly the same time I fell asleep ..
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: redlandslide on June 13, 2010, 03:05:52 PM
Germany have looked the best so far. Good game tonight, and Everton's Tim Cahill managed to get himself sent off.  :)
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: Skadi on June 13, 2010, 05:35:52 PM
I had it on at work, but I was in another area and wasn't watching the whole time.. I came back in and it was 4-0 :o
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: laama on June 14, 2010, 08:20:10 AM
Most coaches are ex players.
True.

Argentina team is full of excellent players,that's why they play so well,but Mr. Maradona can spoil everything.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: CMF on June 14, 2010, 09:38:00 AM
Netherlands.
And they played a good game today.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: smokester on June 14, 2010, 10:39:25 AM

I was actually quite entertained and pleased with Japan today when they played Cameroon.  I do have a soft spot for them anyhow and if they had more of a physical presence to go with their nifty footwork, they'd do quite well I would imagine.

Either way, I'm rooting for them in each of their games.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: Skadi on June 14, 2010, 11:33:06 AM
I know someone who is coming back from Japan on Thursday.. If she had more money with her, I was going to ask for a Japanese baseball jersey. Now I wish I'd thought to give her money to get me a Japan World Cup shirt.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: CMF on June 15, 2010, 02:56:05 PM
Brazil - North Korea

This is probably the best game so far. North Korea surprised me in a good way. They may just be the "whaaaaaatz" team of the World Cup
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: Costalca on June 15, 2010, 04:17:58 PM
BRAZIL ;D

Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: smokester on June 16, 2010, 04:02:56 AM

If it was scored on passion and commitment, North Korea would be hard to beat.  Unfortunately they are another team that doesn't have to physical strength to deal with the heavyweight teams.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: Geemonster on June 16, 2010, 05:53:44 AM
Germany have looked the best so far. Good game tonight, and Everton's Tim Cahill managed to get himself sent off.  :)

I concur Red Germany and Brazil im expecting in the final,though i haven't seen Argentina yet,i missed their 1st game.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: redlandslide on June 16, 2010, 07:36:20 AM
Spain v Switzerland is about to start. Hopefully Torres can net a few.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: Geemonster on June 16, 2010, 07:53:36 AM
I think the Spanish league is the best in the world personally.
  Should be a good game.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: xtopave on June 16, 2010, 08:05:52 AM
Unfortunately they are another team that doesn't have to physical strength to deal with the heavyweight teams.

I watched just one half but I can tell they lack skill too. They're technically limited. And Brazil was only firulete and not much more. But they're always like that at the beginning of tournaments. They'll put the batteries on when it's necessary.

I think the Spanish league is the best in the world personally.

Well, the do invest a liiiiiiitle bit of money there.  ;D
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: smokester on June 16, 2010, 09:09:30 AM


Come on the Swiss!!!

1-0 up against Spain.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: xtopave on June 16, 2010, 10:06:43 AM
Those boys have made history today.

Joder, hombre, they must be pissed off. The things Marca will say!!
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: CMF on June 16, 2010, 02:06:55 PM
I love Switzerland now.  ;D
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: smokester on June 17, 2010, 05:19:40 AM

Finally!  I have cold beer, an empty house, cakes and time to watch Argentina.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: redlandslide on June 17, 2010, 05:26:59 AM
I'm half expecting South Korea to cause a bit of a shock the way they played in the first game.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: smokester on June 17, 2010, 06:33:26 AM
I'm half expecting South Korea to cause a bit of a shock the way they played in the first game.

It would be good if they did, in fact, it would be nice if Argentina, Spain, Brazil and Germany were all put out of the competition during the group stages.

Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: redlandslide on June 17, 2010, 07:27:36 AM
I'm half expecting South Korea to cause a bit of a shock the way they played in the first game.

... or maybe not.  :D

It would be good if they did, in fact, it would be nice if Argentina, Spain, Brazil and Germany were all put out of the competition during the group stages.

To leave the way clear for Portugal to win it?
Actually, I'd prefer all the best teams to go through. Spain v Brazil or Germany v Argentina would be pretty good games.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: smokester on June 17, 2010, 07:47:34 AM

I'm still hoping that Green's gaff was part of a cunning plan to lull the competition into a false sense of security.

That said, they probably don't care where they leave their valuables anyhow?
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: xtopave on June 17, 2010, 08:14:17 AM
I'm still hoping that Green's gaff was part of a cunning plan to lull the competition into a false sense of security.

LOL  :D
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: laama on June 17, 2010, 08:22:06 AM

THOSE PIGS
:D :D

South Korean was disappointed,looks like they were all the times one step behind.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: CMF on June 17, 2010, 09:16:24 PM
MEXICOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

TAKE IT FRANCE!!!!
TAKE IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!

I am so glad they lost.
Title: Re: Who is going to win the World Cup?
Post by: ohcheap1 on June 17, 2010, 09:41:40 PM
I think you guys are all freaks but whatever............

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k246/ohcheap1/soccer.jpg) (http://sendables.jibjab.com/view/Bi6kx38DZg2gwp2b)
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Post by: smokester on June 18, 2010, 03:11:51 AM
I think you guys are all freaks but whatever............

That clip was more entertaining than about 80% of the world cup so far.

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Post by: CMF on June 18, 2010, 08:02:26 AM
I think you guys are all freaks but whatever............

I did not know I can handle balls like that.

Serbia beat Germany :o!!!!Hurray!!!!
Yes, the referee gave cards left and right, especially the first halftime. But then again Germany's performance was disappointing. Especially after they missed the penalty, it looked like they had given up. Also, what a bad performance by Podolski!!!
I guess Germany isn't that good without Ballack and Klose.  :-\

Slovenia vs USA starting.
I hope Slovenia beats the hell out of those American pigs (they eleiminated Canada in the qualifiers,  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

P.S. I am a Homo Superiour, w00t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: AlienBC on June 18, 2010, 08:17:28 AM
hey good luck for tonight peeps ;)
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Post by: smokester on June 18, 2010, 09:07:12 AM

Well, the USA have found a way through the Slovenian defence so there might be some hope for them yet.
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Post by: xtopave on June 18, 2010, 09:13:54 AM
I don't care who wins this game but the Slovenian goalkeeper deserves a shoulder shake and a slap in the face.  :D What was he doing hiding behind the pole? (Is that the correct term in English?) Of course there was a previous defense mistake but still.
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Post by: smokester on June 18, 2010, 10:03:03 AM

That must have been the worst half-time team talk the Slovenians have ever had. Did they all smoke some marijuana in the dressing room or something?

It was the result I had thought it would be however I thought it would be a goalless draw.
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Post by: chekovsulu on June 18, 2010, 10:47:03 AM
I'm glad Switzerland did well on Wednesday, and I cannot wait until Monday's match against Chile.

But I'm worried sick they're going to lose eventually, like in the 2006 World Cup match they had against Ukraine in which they lost with penalties.  But they did have a hard group back then, and they deserved it because of Frei spitting like that (in 2004)!  He shouldn't have the number 9 shirt at all! >:(

And my (?30!!!) Swiss T-shirt has this stain on it - I think it's beer >:(.  Can you put overpriced football shirts in the wash without it getting ruined?  I've not washed it since 2004 because I've been worried about ruining it.

I have been given five cans of Fosters, a bottle of Aspell's and 2 cans of Strongbow for Monday's match, so I hope it's a good one.

What was he doing hiding behind the pole? (Is that the correct term in English?)
From what I recall from playing in the school playground, I think it's called the goal post or just post.  I'm hoping someone could confirm.
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Post by: smokester on June 18, 2010, 11:33:55 AM

I had bought 45 beers in readiness for the World Cup (or at least for the group stage) but I think it was whisked away by a rogue swarm of locusts or something? Whatever took them I had to buy another 45 yesterday, and it already looks like the goblins in my garden have snuck a few.
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Post by: xtopave on June 18, 2010, 01:01:23 PM
Damn, those little booth thieves bastards are there too!?!?

Consider yourself lucky. First match in my country is at 8:30 in the morning.
I can't start drinking that early.  >:( :D
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Post by: CMF on June 18, 2010, 01:11:13 PM
Damn, those little booth thieves bastards are there too!?!?

Consider yourself lucky. First match in my country is at 8:30 in the morning.
I can't start drinking that early.  >:( :D

Yes you can. First match over here is in 7:00 AM. Beers in the fridge are stolen by the neighbours until 12:00.
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Post by: smokester on June 18, 2010, 01:25:34 PM

Now I remember what happened to the beers - I watched England play and needed something to numb the pain. 

45 beers would just about cover it!
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Post by: ohcheap1 on June 18, 2010, 02:01:39 PM
WTH? Beer comes in 5 packs in the UK? Or do you just buy 2 full cases and one broken case with 9 in it? That makes no sense to me?
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Post by: CMF on June 18, 2010, 02:30:26 PM
WTH? Beer comes in 5 packs in the UK? Or do you just buy 2 full cases and one broken case with 9 in it? That makes no sense to me?

I sincerely believe he needed more than 45 to be able to see this horror of a game. I think he lost the count after the 43rd and rounded it up.
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Post by: smokester on June 18, 2010, 02:38:26 PM
WTH? Beer comes in 5 packs in the UK? Or do you just buy 2 full cases and one broken case with 9 in it? That makes no sense to me?

Box of 15 for ?10 or 3 boxes for ?20 which is what I opted for - at Walmart no less.
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Post by: xtopave on June 18, 2010, 02:54:48 PM
I couldn't watch the 2nd half. Was it as bad as the 1st?
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Post by: AlienBC on June 18, 2010, 03:02:29 PM
now i know where my drones are getting the beer from he he.........
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Post by: CMF on June 18, 2010, 03:34:28 PM
I recorded the game so I can watch it whenever I have my insomnia periods.
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Post by: xtopave on June 18, 2010, 03:59:45 PM
OMG  :D
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Post by: smokester on June 18, 2010, 04:03:44 PM

I don't think it really matters as far as the points, as we would always have had to beat Slovenia to have been certain of going through, but the pitiful show by the players must have them all worried about about playing a team that only has to bolt the door to progress.
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Post by: redlandslide on June 18, 2010, 04:27:06 PM
England were awful, a draw flattered them.

I think England will win the last game though.
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Post by: laama on June 18, 2010, 06:03:53 PM
Luckily first game starts 14:30,second 17:00 and third 21:20,so i can drink a lot between games. ;D

Shitty moment was when referee spoiled US third goal. >:(

I really hope,that France goes home after 3rd match,I still remember how they cheated their place to World Cup.
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Post by: Geemonster on June 18, 2010, 07:58:58 PM
I downloaded Argentina vs South Korea.
  Im about to watch it,i have a hip flask full of brandy and a nice bag of herbs.
     Woohoo!

(http://www.images.thedemonsden.com/images/Geemonster/argentinaflag.jpg)
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Post by: smokester on June 19, 2010, 05:34:13 AM


Come on JAPAN!!
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on June 19, 2010, 11:26:40 AM
judging by what i have watched so far
Spoiler (hover to show)
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Post by: xtopave on June 19, 2010, 12:16:06 PM
Judging by what I have watched so far I can only say I'm very disappointed on most of the teams.

I've seen a documentary about the the Jabulani ball. They tell how and why they've chosen materials, surface, etc. Have you noticed it has some dotted parts and some parts with little "lines"? Well apparently that's not only aesthetic. The AMAZING things they do to the ball to try it!!! They bounce it, smash it, squelch it, heat it, put it in different wind tunnels, etc, etc. The money involved must be huge.
And then some brainless sport journalists (yeah, I know, that's redundant  :D) go and say with the conviction of those who know nothing about nothing: Why don't they change it? Geeeeez....
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Post by: laama on June 19, 2010, 04:13:51 PM
Judging by what I have watched so far I can only say I'm very disappointed on most of the teams.

I've seen a documentary about the the Jabulani ball. They tell how and why they've chosen materials, surface, etc. Have you noticed it has some dotted parts and some parts with little "lines"? Well apparently that's not only aesthetic. The AMAZING things they do to the ball to try it!!! They bounce it, smash it, squelch it, heat it, put it in different wind tunnels, etc, etc. The money involved must be huge.
And then some brainless sport journalists (yeah, I know, that's redundant  :D) go and say with the conviction of those who know nothing about nothing: Why don't they change it? Geeeeez....
So far there has been only few good matches,games must be better soon or this can be named Tournament of Boredom.

Every time when new ball comes to World Cups,it's invalid according to some coaches,players and media.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on June 20, 2010, 08:41:31 AM
So far there has been only few good matches,games must be better soon or this can be named Tournament of Boredom.

Every time when new ball comes to World Cups,it's invalid according to some coaches,players and media.

maybe but some of the lesser nations play fine with it
algeria pasted england with skill and ball control
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Post by: Geemonster on June 20, 2010, 04:51:34 PM
Argentina performed quite well against South Korea.
  England?.............well a disapointing game.
       Teams are afraid to lose,they're jumpy,the best i've seen so far is Argentina,Germany and Brazil,but i haven't watched every match.
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Post by: chekovsulu on June 21, 2010, 10:54:16 AM
Chile made me laugh, if they get through I might start supporting them :D

I forgot Murat Yakin no longer plays for Switzerland.  His brother's getting old too :))
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Post by: xtopave on June 21, 2010, 10:55:52 AM
Chile made me laugh

I don't understand.
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Post by: smokester on June 21, 2010, 01:13:03 PM
Chile made me laugh, if they get through I might start supporting them :D

I forgot Murat Yakin no longer plays for Switzerland.  His brother's getting old too :))

Sorry about Behrami, it looks like he has adopted some of the tactics of the West Ham fans.
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Post by: Geemonster on June 23, 2010, 03:07:26 AM
Chile made me laugh, if they get through I might start supporting them :D

Fairweather support then?  ::)
  Argentina could win this tournament.
    England are bless'ed hopeless.  :D
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Post by: smokester on June 23, 2010, 04:01:25 AM
I went to rent the movie 'Out of Africa' today, but the guy told me not to bother as it will be on TV at 3pm this afternoon ..
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Post by: Geemonster on June 23, 2010, 05:56:38 AM
^  :D :D :D
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Post by: smokester on June 23, 2010, 09:53:57 AM

Wow! USA managed to squeeze a late goal.  They deserved it with 2 perfectly good goals disallowed in the competition, but I do feel a little sorry for Slovenia as they didn't do an awful lot wrong.
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Post by: xtopave on June 23, 2010, 10:27:33 AM
Looks like you're going to have to rent the movie after all, smokes.  :)
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Post by: chekovsulu on June 23, 2010, 11:36:09 AM
I'm glad England made it through, I want people to keep being excited about the tournament :)

And when I saw the USA goal, I imagined this great Hollywood moment, with music and cheering and the tears of happiness :')

I'm so bad :(

Compared to Nigeria yesterday, England looked incredibly well coordinated.  I was impressed, I had no idea they could play so well! :o

Sorry about Behrami, it looks like he has adopted some of the tactics of the West Ham fans.
Yeah, I don't like him.  And he shares my birthday, which really annoys me >:(

Fairweather support then?  ::)
Definately! :D  Switzerland never make it through, I've got no choice :'(

By the way, I am now supporting USA.

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Post by: AlienBC on June 23, 2010, 12:20:30 PM
I'm glad England made it through, I want people to keep being excited about the tournament :)

And when I saw the USA goal, I imagined this great Hollywood moment, with music and cheering and the tears of happiness :')

I'm so bad :(

Compared to Nigeria yesterday, England looked incredibly well coordinated.  I was impressed, I had no idea they could play so well! :o
Yeah, I don't like him.  And he shares my birthday, which really annoys me >:(
Definately! :D  Switzerland never make it through, I've got no choice :'(

By the way, I am now supporting USA.


Well done peeps I'm happy for you I wish they won. 1964 hell that's some time back.........come on England.....I've only got 20 years left tops...... ;D ;D
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Post by: Geemonster on June 23, 2010, 01:24:08 PM
Im happy with Argentina's performance so far.
With Tevez last night it could of been more.
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Post by: laama on June 23, 2010, 02:06:19 PM
USA needs better referees to their next game or they can pack luggages before match.
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Post by: smokester on June 23, 2010, 03:03:43 PM
Looks like you're going to have to rent the movie after all, smokes.  :)

I think the man in the shop was Slovenian - although he probably should have said '4pm' if that were the case :)
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Post by: smokester on June 24, 2010, 09:59:43 AM

O     M     G!

World champions out of the cup in the group stage. WTF happened there?

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Post by: redlandslide on June 24, 2010, 11:11:37 AM
I really enjoyed the Italy - Slovakia match, the unpredictability of this tournament adds to the watchability of these final group matches. Even when the quality of the football isn't great the games are fascinating.

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Post by: laama on June 24, 2010, 02:45:14 PM
Japan played very well.
Paraguay won't fancy facing them in this mood.
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Post by: xtopave on June 24, 2010, 05:20:01 PM
Paraguay has a very good team this year. Specially Justo Villar. He's a very good goalkeeper. I really hope the do good in this World Cup.
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Post by: smokester on June 24, 2010, 05:28:46 PM

The only social friends I have here in south London are Italians.  There were plans for us to have a get together for either an England or Italy game when it got to the finals stage, but now I would imagine that's been scuppered.

I'll have to go round to Chek's place for a Swiss game if they get through ..
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Post by: redlandslide on June 25, 2010, 07:31:12 AM
Brazil v Portugal is about to start, I've been looking forward to this one since they were drawn in the same group.
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Post by: smokester on June 25, 2010, 07:43:10 AM

I have the school 'summer fair' at 3pm :'(




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Post by: xtopave on June 25, 2010, 10:18:32 AM
Brazil v Portugal is about to start, I've been looking forward to this one since they were drawn in the same group.

Me too! But work and kids only allowed me to watch the first 15 min and the last 40 seconds.  ::)
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Post by: smokester on June 25, 2010, 05:14:19 PM

I have just finished watching both games back to back, and if was scored by nodding off, I'd be in double figures.
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Post by: smokester on June 26, 2010, 10:24:33 AM
 
I thought I'd post a link to the results and fixtures, as my signature it past its sell by date now.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/fixtures_and_results

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Post by: xtopave on June 26, 2010, 10:33:35 AM
I'm so happy with Uruguay's victory. Their 2nd goal was amazing. Now their next match is against either Ghana or USA. They must be thrilled. Actually I'm watching images from Montevideo and they sure look happy to say the least.
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Post by: Geemonster on June 26, 2010, 02:56:53 PM
Argentina Brazil or Germany.
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Post by: chekovsulu on June 26, 2010, 03:24:56 PM
Psychic Octopus says Germany will win the England-Germany match.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/10420131.stm

I'll have to go round to Chek's place for a Swiss game if they get through ..
:'(
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Post by: smokester on June 26, 2010, 05:12:41 PM

Brave effort by the US this evening, but I think it was the right result on balance. 

It's all 'football' from here on in and I really hope tomorrow England actually start to play some. Beat Germany and all is forgiven, whether they progress further or not.
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Post by: Geemonster on June 26, 2010, 06:31:51 PM
England will have a very hard time today.
  If they beat Germany,i'll be surprised.
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Post by: AlienBC on June 26, 2010, 07:12:15 PM
I don't have a clue but come on ENGLAND!!!! hope they win ;)


edit

for me it's not about the football it's about england winning something for once ;)
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Post by: smokester on June 27, 2010, 02:03:58 AM

for me it's not about the football it's about england winning something for once ;)

England certainly have the tools to beat Germany if not any team, but getting them all to operate harmoniously, which they need to at some point, seems to be beyond their ability.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on June 27, 2010, 03:37:54 AM
ENGLAND 
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Post by: smokester on June 27, 2010, 09:27:19 AM

Someone shoot the World Cup please.
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Post by: feelingindifferent on June 27, 2010, 10:19:29 AM
4-1
I think the English tabloids are going to have a seizure tomorrow morning.
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Post by: smokester on June 27, 2010, 11:00:35 AM
4-1
I think the English tabloids are going to have a seizure tomorrow morning.

It's not the score that will be in the news, we all expect that.  It is the Lampard non-goal that has made a mockery of the competition and the sport in general - that is the headline.
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Post by: xtopave on June 27, 2010, 11:19:51 AM
The 1st half must have ended 2-2 and I've seen enough football matches to know the story could have been a well different one. And England would have made 2 goals in a few minutes. That's not easy to process for the other team.
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Post by: smokester on June 27, 2010, 11:28:10 AM
There are far too many mistakes made by referees in Football for players, teams and fans to take it on the chin.  The fact that we can produce and iPhone but cannot work out a way to determine whether a ball has has crossed a painted line, is at least, absurd!
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Post by: xtopave on June 27, 2010, 11:35:34 AM
ABSOLUTELY. But is FIFA that doesn't have the will to make the necessary changes. Maybe now they'll do it. But I've been expecting the changes being made in the last World Cup but that didn't happen.
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Post by: smokester on June 27, 2010, 11:42:43 AM


I know Cricket is a much slower paced game, but I like then fact that the umpires can call on the 4th umpire if they are not sure.  It is not good enough that if the ref and linesman in a football game don't see the ball cross the line, they cannot give it, quite the opposite in my opinion, if they have doubts about their judgement they should seek clarity on the issue elsewhere.
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Post by: laama on June 27, 2010, 11:43:46 AM
Someone shoot the World Cup please.
:D :D

Referees decided to win?
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Post by: AlienBC on June 27, 2010, 12:42:36 PM
goo luck 2nite gang  :(
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Post by: smokester on June 28, 2010, 02:48:53 AM

Sorry to have to say it, but the Mexico/Argentina was another non-game for me because of the controversial off-side goal.  Mexico had a lack of concentration for 20 minutes following that decision which contributed to the second goal and threatened to shape the rest of the game.  Mexico were gutsy enough to get on with the game in the second half but if it had ended 3-2 it would have opened a very nasty can of worms.

Years of preparation, lengthy qualifying process, tricky group stage games, and a teams fate is decided by easily rectified technical errors.  It was bad enough Sepp Blatter laughing at Ireland after they sought some justice for their unfair exit, but these latest incidents just make him the biggest joke in football - keep laughing Sepp, what goes around comes around.
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Post by: smokester on June 28, 2010, 02:56:53 AM


Sepp Blatter uncovers evidence that Frank Lampard?s goal didn?t cross the line


Spoiler (hover to show)
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on June 28, 2010, 07:27:16 AM
fantastic pic.
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Post by: laama on June 29, 2010, 07:55:17 PM


Sepp Blatter uncovers evidence that Frank Lampard?s goal didn?t cross the line


Spoiler (hover to show)
:D :D

Friday Netherlands - Brazil could be excellent if Netherlands can fix their leaking defence.
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Post by: Geemonster on June 29, 2010, 08:42:13 PM
(http://i1045.photobucket.com/albums/b453/GJW1969/argentina_flag.jpg)


(http://i1045.photobucket.com/albums/b453/GJW1969/WorldCup.jpg)
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Post by: xtopave on June 29, 2010, 09:28:08 PM
So it was you who stole the World Cup trophies (http://www.pretorianews.co.za/?fSectionId=&fArticleId=nw20100629165945573C856232)?!?!  :D :D
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Post by: Skadi on June 30, 2010, 07:14:02 AM
Psychic Octopus says Germany will win the England-Germany match.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/10420131.stm
 :'(

Paul's current prediction is he wants to be set free, return to the ocean, find a girlfriend and have babies ...and quit being used for really stupid human experiments :D
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Post by: smokester on June 30, 2010, 07:22:36 AM
Paul's current prediction is he wants to be set free, return to the ocean, find a girlfriend and have babies ...and quit being used for really stupid human experiments :D

Yes but that's after the World Cup. The TV reception is appalling at the bottom of the Pacific.
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Post by: dweez on June 30, 2010, 08:22:14 AM
Skadi, you've got to admit, as stupid human experiments go, Paul got a much better one then he could have.
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Post by: Skadi on July 01, 2010, 06:33:08 AM
Skadi, you've got to admit, as stupid human experiments go, Paul got a much better one then he could have.

Or if someone loses money, he could end up here when The Cup is over :o

(http://newyork.seriouseats.com/images/20081211-takoyaki.jpg)
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Post by: xtopave on July 02, 2010, 03:23:19 PM
Is there a sport more thrilling and exciting than football?!?!

Have you watched Uruguay vs. Ghana? Unbelievable. Or not. Because that's the beauty of football. Anything can happen.

Abreu every once in a while does that when kicking penalties. But Ghana didn't know about him.
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Post by: redlandslide on July 02, 2010, 03:40:00 PM
I didn't have a favourite in the Uruguay/Ghana match, but it seems wrong that Ghana went out thanks to cheating.
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Post by: indie180 on July 02, 2010, 05:06:15 PM
Aye, they where unlucky.

Still stick with me original prediction Argentina vs Holland (i might not have posted it here) 
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Post by: laama on July 02, 2010, 06:43:42 PM
Brazil was surprisingly very passive after they did first goal and Netherlands grabs the prize.

Uruguay - Ghana match was best game so far,I hope,that todays matches are similar.
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Post by: Geemonster on July 02, 2010, 11:22:54 PM
Nothing like the Brazil squad of the 70's 80's with Falcao,Socrates and Zico who played with such flair it was a pleasure to watch them play.
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Post by: smokester on July 03, 2010, 03:46:46 AM
I might even put a tenner on a Argentina vs Spain final (would pay ?250)

Not a bad prediction before the competition started, but the math of it meant it couldn't be so like I meantioned here:

but you have to remember that math is involved in that decison as teams would have to finish the groups in a certain position to be able to meet later on in that way.

With that in mind, I think the bookmakers were a bit tight with the odds.


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Post by: feelingindifferent on July 03, 2010, 05:15:58 AM
ORANJE! ;D
I like watching the underdog win, but those two goals were so lucky lol. Especially the first. Sneijder was the man of the match. At 5'7" the shortest of the squad and he still scored a header :D
Brazil's reckless tackling was really irritating, though I have to say that the referee was very grounded and fair.

Tonight, it's a bit of a toss up between Argentina and Germany. Argentina probably has the edge. Not overly concerned about Paraguay and Spain.
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Post by: smokester on July 03, 2010, 05:24:05 AM

Paraguay and Spain will probably be 'paint drying' TV, and I am definitely going to record that one and watch it late (need something to help me sleep).

I am gutted with the Ghana/Uruguay game as yet again it's football that promotes 'cheating' as a means to an end and I cannot explain otherwise to my children when that happens.  That said, if you'd offered Ghana a penalty in the last second of extra time to win the game, they'd have taken it for sure and so is their responsibility that they missed that opportunity.
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Post by: smokester on July 03, 2010, 09:52:39 AM
What a marvelous game the Argentina/Germany game was.  Some of the best European style football I have seen in years (from the German side). Simple overlaps, passing and moving and goal scoring.  Germany thoroughly deserved the emphatic victory and I hope they go on to win it now.

Argentina on the other hand: same kind of scenario as Brazil in as much as they couldn't play from behind and looked a shadow of what they should.  I personally can't stand all the rolling around on the floor and trying to get the opposition players booked - perhaps if they had calmed down and played football, they'd have made more inroads into the German defence.
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Post by: feelingindifferent on July 03, 2010, 12:06:31 PM
I personally can't stand all the rolling around on the floor and trying to get the opposition players booked - perhaps if they had calmed down and played football, they'd have made more inroads into the German defence.
YES! Same problem with Brazil. All that diving and trying to gain a freekick; it's idiotic, they would have done better if they had actually concentrated.
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Post by: laama on July 04, 2010, 07:11:32 PM
YES! Same problem with Brazil. All that diving and trying to gain a freekick; it's idiotic, they would have done better if they had actually concentrated.
All the dying swans what we have seen there so far makes me sad.
FIFA should take strict line against all of those cheaters.

And if Uruguay wins World Cup? ;D
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Post by: Geemonster on July 05, 2010, 08:56:57 AM
Germany!
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Post by: Costalca on July 05, 2010, 09:10:42 AM
Germany!
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Post by: laama on July 05, 2010, 06:54:12 PM
Uruguay. ;D
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Post by: Geemonster on July 06, 2010, 05:57:43 AM
Uruguay. ;D

I'd like to see them win laama they haven't won it for decades.
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Post by: smokester on July 06, 2010, 06:35:06 AM

I agree I'd like the see Uruguay win too.  That way this world cup can be written off entirely for the cheating and unfair farce that it has been.
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Post by: feelingindifferent on July 06, 2010, 06:47:25 AM
I'd rather see Netherlands win more than Uruguay. Germany also. Spain is too boringly undeserved; they hardly played any good football apart from the occasional goal needed to get through.
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Post by: smokester on July 06, 2010, 06:51:19 AM
I'd rather see Netherlands win more than Uruguay. Germany also. Spain is too boringly undeserved; they hardly played any good football apart from the occasional goal needed to get through.

No you're right of course. Both Germany and the Netherlands thoroughly deserve to be there and have entertained above all others.

Let's just hope that there aren't any more 'incidents' in the last 4 games to spoil things even further.
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Post by: redlandslide on July 06, 2010, 10:53:12 AM
Paul the Octopus picked SPAIN!! :o :o :o

LINK (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2890/world-cup-2010/2010/07/06/2012372/world-cup-2010-paul-the-octopus-predicts-spain-victory-over)
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Post by: xtopave on July 06, 2010, 11:00:02 AM
...After carefully mulling his decision... says the article.  ::) :D
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Post by: AlienBC on July 06, 2010, 12:23:35 PM
don't tell anybody but I had a hope for Brazil   :D
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Post by: smokester on July 06, 2010, 03:40:46 PM

Psychic Octopus says Germany will win the England-Germany match.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/10420131.stm

Paul the Octopus picked SPAIN!! :o :o :o

LINK (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2890/world-cup-2010/2010/07/06/2012372/world-cup-2010-paul-the-octopus-predicts-spain-victory-over)

That octopus is like that bloke in the pub that tips all the horses of a race to different people.  Then when one of them wins, he expects free beer all night and a dropsy.

I'm onto him ..
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on July 07, 2010, 12:09:12 AM
Germany
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Post by: smokester on July 07, 2010, 03:40:33 PM

I'm with whatever the octopus says.
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Post by: redlandslide on July 07, 2010, 03:42:04 PM
I'm with whatever the octopus says.

I wonder if he'd pick my lottery numbers?
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Post by: smokester on July 07, 2010, 03:46:54 PM
I wonder if he'd pick my lottery numbers?

He can only count up to 8.
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Post by: Geemonster on July 07, 2010, 08:17:04 PM
Spermany.
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Post by: dweez on July 07, 2010, 09:47:55 PM
Meh, I stopped watching after the U.S. were (was (?)) knocked out.  Consider me a typicaly American, but please, PLEASE listen to the rest of my opinions.
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Post by: chekovsulu on July 08, 2010, 09:58:20 AM
I did the same once all the teams I was following were knocked out :D
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Post by: laama on July 08, 2010, 04:33:38 PM
I hope,that Uruguay wins bronze medal game against Germany,but one more offside goal and Germany wins.

I say,that Spain wins 3-2. ;D
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Post by: jackalope21 on July 08, 2010, 09:11:53 PM


Is it too late to vote for Pangea?
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Post by: laama on July 11, 2010, 05:27:28 PM
Netherlands made history after losing in final,they have been World Cup Final in 3 times and they lose every time.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on July 11, 2010, 10:09:23 PM
what a shining example for football. ::)
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Post by: smokester on July 12, 2010, 02:35:44 AM

I wonder how the bookies did?  Spain were 4/1 favourites before a ball was kicked and I realise that could have been based on Spain's European cup victory, but if they were those odds due to the amount of money being placed on them, the bookies will be suicidal today.
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Post by: feelingindifferent on July 12, 2010, 08:57:26 AM
That goal was partly conceded because of a bad call by the referee :-\ it was clearly a corner.
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Post by: Geemonster on July 13, 2010, 08:01:31 AM
There should be a video ref on hand too.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on July 13, 2010, 09:02:51 AM
the best side won the competition  ;D
glad those dutch thugs lost out in the end.
they should have had 2 men sent off before half time

i was happy the dutch made the final but after watching them play  >:(
just go's to show we cannot play football or referee it as well  :D :D
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Post by: feelingindifferent on July 13, 2010, 09:21:09 AM
The Dutch did play rough, but the Spanish did their fair share of diving and fouling as well. How ironic that the only time Robben decided to not dive was the only time the opposition didn't get a card. Spain were the better team, but I'm sick of Spain's hypocriticial holier-than-thou attitude. Whatever, it was a bad match with a bad referee who made bad calls.

I'm happy that Mueller got the Golden Boot and Best Young Player while Forlan got the Golden Ball; both well-deserved.
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Post by: smokester on July 13, 2010, 10:03:29 AM
I quite enjoyed the final, especially the second half and I think Webb had a pretty good game considering.  The fact that the Dutch are accusing him of treating them unfairly and the Spanish are calling him a Dutch ally, only goes to prove that he must have refereed with balance.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on July 13, 2010, 02:05:09 PM
well he did decide not to send off 2 dutch players who should and would have been sent off in any other game.

yes the Spanish as most European side act with aplomb when tackled.
at least they didn't stick the boot in literally and with such finesse of sheer brutality. :D

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Post by: smokester on July 13, 2010, 03:44:32 PM

I think Webb tried to keep 22 players on the pitch as it was the World Cup Final, sending anyone off would have handed the cup to the other side and they were both guilty of infractions.

We see Webb week in week out in the premiership and I personally think he is one of the tougher but fairer referees around, and a very good one at that.  He wouldn't have such an outstanding record if he weren't.

It's his birthday tomorrow too.
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Post by: feelingindifferent on July 14, 2010, 09:25:52 AM
well he did decide not to send off 2 dutch players who should and would have been sent off in any other game.
LOL that kung fu kick. that was a red definitely. but his desire to keep everyone on the field gave everyone a free pass to do all kinds of crazy poo. he influenced the game too much, and not in a good way.

sending anyone off would have handed the cup to the other side
Heitinga got sent off 80 minutes too late for dive from iniesta, and then iniesta scores. hmm.
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Post by: laama on July 14, 2010, 07:23:22 PM
Final match referee Mr. Webb probably get tons of poo straight to his neck after match couple next days.