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Title: Reader's Nook
Post by: tarascon on January 17, 2013, 07:13:05 PM
Suggest a book to read or mention what you are currently reading or plan to read soon.
The genre is open and so is the approach; you can write a long review or simply post a title/author you'd like to share.

The last book I read was The Book of Air & Shadows by M. Gruber which I enjoyed. Today I began Bartleby & Co. by Enrique Vila-Matas.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2004/aug/14/featuresreviews.guardianreview9 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2004/aug/14/featuresreviews.guardianreview9)

THIS THREAD IS MUTUALLY OFFERED BY AUTUMN & MYSELF. This is a merged thread...

Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: xtopave on January 17, 2013, 07:38:37 PM
Today I began Bartleby & Co. by Enrique Vila-Matas.

Now that you mention a Catalan author I recall La sombra del viento (http://La sombra del viento) by Carlos Ruiz Zafón. Beautiful!!
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: tarascon on January 17, 2013, 07:50:06 PM
^ Yes, yes, yes!

Also check out The Book of Disquiet by Lisbon born author Fernando Pessoa.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: xtopave on January 17, 2013, 08:03:38 PM
It's Public Domain (http://www.dominiopublico.gov.br/pesquisa/DetalheObraForm.do?select_action&co_obra=24204) so I'm checking it out right now. Looks pretty crazy.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: tarascon on January 17, 2013, 08:18:28 PM
^ He was a very cool, very bizarre person.
Btw, did you read Zafon in the original? I did not.  :)
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: xtopave on January 17, 2013, 08:45:48 PM
Btw, did you read Zafon in the original? I did not.  :)

Spanish is my native language so yes, I did.  :)

Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: tarascon on January 17, 2013, 10:16:56 PM
^ German is my first tongue but followed very closely by English (I came to the New World when I was 2). I've only read one book (Confessions of Felix Krull by Mann) in my "native" language... Which segues into my next recommendation.
How German Is it? by Walter Abish.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: bubu on January 18, 2013, 10:37:15 AM
A portuguese author I really like is Josè Saramago, i read his books in Italian (portuguese is too difficult) which is my language,his atheist point of view made his life difficult in the catholic Portugal, he exiled himself in Lanzarote (Spain) after his governement in 1992, ordered the removal of The Gospel According to Jesus Christ from the European Literary Prize's shortlist, claiming the work was religiously offensive. He died there in 2010.
The latest I read and bought is Cain (Caim),which is the final novel by  the Nobel Prize-winning author,  it was first published in 2009.
The novel is told through the eyes of Cain as he witnesses passages from the Bible that add to his increasing hatred of God.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: tarascon on January 18, 2013, 10:12:03 PM
I've read most of Saramago's stuff except Cain. Actually, I haven't heard of it... so thanks for the lead. To date my favorite of his: The Year of the Death of Ricardo Reis.

On January 25th I'm taking a train from Los Angeles to Detroit. I bought these books today for the trip:

1. The Road to Jerusalem by Jan Guillou
2. The Good Son by Michael Gruber
3. The Long Ships by Frans Bengtsson
4. Gods Without Men by Hari Kunzru
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: Autumn on March 24, 2013, 10:13:09 PM
tarascon gave me this idea... I wanna know what you're reading! I wanna know what it's about, what you like or don't like about it and if I should read it.

Currently reading Lauren Fox. Still Life with Husband. She's a local author that comes into my bakery. She is very sweet! Anyway the book is about a woman that encounters a sort of stale phase in her marriage and pursues another man. I love the parts about my city, but I hate reading what I feel like might be becoming of me if I'm not careful.
You should absolutely read it if you're into scandal, Milwaukee or crappy marriages.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: xtopave on March 25, 2013, 04:57:39 AM
I'm not in a reading phase right now. I'm trying to read Livro do Desassossego by Fernando Pessoa and alternating with The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo by Stieg Larsson. Not making much of a progress with any of them.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: tarascon on March 25, 2013, 06:05:15 AM
Rasputin's Bastards by David Nickle.

Aging Cold War Russians, KGB remote viewing and strange, powerful children who may prove to be the harbingers of doom.
Unfortunately (as a marketing ploy), the author is compared to Stephen King--an author I detest--and for that reason I passed this book up several times before actually buying it. I'm glad I finally ignored the blurb and got the book... it's well-written, darkly funny, and way better than anything King ever wrote.

Btw, may I add that something like this thread exists... Here: http://www.diasfora.co.uk/index.php/topic,4692.0.html (http://www.diasfora.co.uk/index.php/topic,4692.0.html)
Perhaps someone can merge these two.  ;)
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: Autumn on March 25, 2013, 06:25:30 AM
But t, it's just a list. I want details!
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: tarascon on March 25, 2013, 06:35:14 AM
I understand but details can sometimes be spoilers.  :)
And as far as recommending that someone read a particular book is a responsibility I shall pass on; what people like and don't like is a hard call--all I can do is hope someone will be intrigued enough to want to check the book out.

I'm also reading Mao: The Unknown Story by Jung Chang & Jon Halliday, a biography of the Chinese tyrant and sociopath. It's a good bio but requires--at times--a strong stomach.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on March 25, 2013, 09:16:46 AM
I'm reading Maurice Merleau-Ponty's Phenomenology of Perception in the new Landau translation.  It was originally published in 1945.  I'm also reading Minette Walters' The Ice House (a mystery, not as good as her The Sculptress).  So far, the Merleau-Ponty, as difficult as it is, is more compelling than the mystery novel.

I read anything and everything.  And I take issue with the dismissal of Stephen King.  I once thought that he was just another pulp novelist and, thus, not deserving of respect.  Then somebody gave me a copy of Pet Sematary.  I was surprised.  He is a gifted writer.  His descriptions and plots are quite skillful, even if they are executed in a limited genre.  Is it high art?  No.  But his books are entertaining and well-crafted.

Nobody accuses K-pop of being art music, but it's entertaining and professionally executed.  There's a popular niche for it.  You don't have to like it.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: Discover99 on March 25, 2013, 10:57:17 AM
I'm not in a reading phase either atm. The latest book I've read is Español Nivel I detective novel series (Lola Largo) set in Madrid called Por amor al arte.
It's really short, easy to read, and surprisingly funny and well written
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: goldshirt*9 on March 25, 2013, 11:08:29 AM
Stalker atm. only a couple of paragraphs in.
I am going to try and complete
le morte d'arthur soon.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on March 25, 2013, 11:21:36 AM
Discover, those mysteries sound intriguing.  Are you reading them to improve your Spanish?

I started reading Maigret novels in French to improve my reading and vocabulary.  They're not so hard and really fun.  It would be great to find more titles for the same purpose in Spanish.   I read some short stories by Borges and a good deal of poetry, but mystery novels would be easier and less work than trying to decipher idiomatic language that you'd find in poetry.

People also tend to talk in conversational language in mystery novels and that also helps when you actually talk to people.  Four years of spanish and I sound like a twit when I speak to people around here, primarily because, although I've read all kinds of technical stuff, I have had very limited experience in conversation.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: townie2 on March 25, 2013, 12:08:58 PM
currently reading Dean Koontz's Brother Odd, it's one of a mini series of books centered on the trials and tribulations of Odd Thomas, who is a traveling short order cook with some strange psychic abilities.
just finished reading We Are Anonymous: Inside the Hacker World of LulzSec, found it interesting, inside workings and methods of the groups, and how some eventually got caught.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: xtopave on March 25, 2013, 03:19:31 PM
currently reading Dean Koontz's Brother Odd

I've read the 2 books released for the Moonlight Bay trilogy (Fear Nothing and Seize the Night). Suspense novels about a guy with Xeroderma pigmentosum. You might call him "beach reading" but it's very entertaining.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: tarascon on March 25, 2013, 05:45:53 PM
I read anything and everything.  And I take issue with the dismissal of Stephen King.  I once thought that he was just another pulp novelist and, thus, not deserving of respect.  Then somebody gave me a copy of Pet Sematary.  I was surprised.  He is a gifted writer.  His descriptions and plots are quite skillful, even if they are executed in a limited genre.  Is it high art?  No.  But his books are entertaining and well-crafted.

  I've never read Pet Sematary so I can't comment on that; I did find The Shining to be a good book. So on that one point I will back down. The other books of his I've read--The Stand, for example--was awful. King comes up with decent plots but the stuff I have read tended to end with a deus ex machina... the biggest sin in my opinion for a writer to commit. That, plus the fact that his books are heavy on dialogue (which is the easiest thing to do in creative fiction) and weak in execution make him (for me) an author undeserving of his reputation. Also, he tends to introduce unlikely characters into his books, characters which actually weaken the story and which become a nuisance to the point of distraction. The Raggedy Man is such a character... Gratuitous weirdness has limited charm and is never necessary to his plots. I think that some of this may be the publisher's and editor's fault. Once a formula works and then sells well the demand for innovation takes a nose-drive and the author tends to remain static. King praised Lovecraft's Supernatural Horror in Literature in several reviews years ago--and this is exactly why I have to wonder what King's doing in his novels, because he must know better.
  Taking issue with me because I gave an opinion is something I cannot control but my mind remains unchanged.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: xtopave on March 25, 2013, 06:05:33 PM
My sister has a love-hate relationship with King, she has read most of all he wrote and she says pretty much what you say only she does not say it that "prettily".  ;D   I always like to read what you write, tarascon.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: Autumn on March 25, 2013, 07:33:09 PM
I've liked king's novels, but I like the short stories better. I definitely don't think he is the best writer in his genre either, but I, like 6, read almost anything. I have read so few books that I could not finish because they weren't good.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: dweez on March 25, 2013, 09:01:58 PM
I'm a King fan but I'll admit when it gets weak.  The last three in the Dark Tower series were lacking but I'm still glad I read them, if not just to say I completed it.  "The Eyes of the Dragon" is one of my most favorite books.  I heard a story once that Tabitha, his daughter, asked him why he didn't write anything she could read.  "The Eyes of the Dragon" is the result.  I enjoyed it thoroughly.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on March 26, 2013, 12:22:42 AM
So I confess, my knowledge of Stephen King is limited to one novel and one short story.  Everything else has been movies or tv miniseries.

The Stand was a bloated train wreck that had the sketchy outlines of an interesting plot that soon just turned into bible thumping dreck.  I assumed it was because the suits at the network had had their way with it.  But, upon reflection, the book appeared as if it could double as a doorstop.

It's probably not much better in the way of coherence.  Still, it's kind of like some bands you listen to that can crank out one or two really inspired songs and then produce albums that are mostly meh.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: Discover99 on March 26, 2013, 03:51:42 AM
Discover, those mysteries sound intriguing.  Are you reading them to improve your Spanish?

I started reading Maigret novels in French to improve my reading and vocabulary.  They're not so hard and really fun.  It would be great to find more titles for the same purpose in Spanish.   I read some short stories by Borges and a good deal of poetry, but mystery novels would be easier and less work than trying to decipher idiomatic language that you'd find in poetry.

People also tend to talk in conversational language in mystery novels and that also helps when you actually talk to people.  Four years of spanish and I sound like a twit when I speak to people around here, primarily because, although I've read all kinds of technical stuff, I have had very limited experience in conversation.

Yes I do read them to improve my Spanish, I'm living in Spain well Catalunya right now and really want to get better at speaking at least one of the two languages spoken here :)
And I agree, they do use a more colloquial language. 
Por amor al arte by Lourdes Miquel/Neus Sans
part of the 'Lola Lago, detective' series
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: tarascon on March 26, 2013, 04:37:38 AM
So I confess, my knowledge of Stephen King is limited to one novel and one short story.  Everything else has been movies or tv miniseries.

I really don't mean to belabor my point--and I do feel a bit foolish for my rant above--but your comment that King is a gifted writer surprised me. I almost took that as a personal affront which says a lot about my issues. Still, you were the last person on these fora that I expected to hear that from. And as for your "doorstop" comment... that's what I meant by his stuff being heavy on the dialogue--it's as if King is conscripted to write bloated books with the accompanying fat price tag. I'm willing to let this drop now and not spend more time in this thread discussing the pros and cons of Mr. King.  :)

I'm reading The Paris Commune of 1871 by Frank Jellinek.
Rather than describe the book, I will refer you all to this: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/52177.The_Paris_Commune_of_1871 (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/52177.The_Paris_Commune_of_1871)* and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Commune (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Commune)

* The typo on that page really disturbs me. lol
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: Autumn on March 26, 2013, 05:22:26 AM
It took me a minute to find it!
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: Beatrix on March 26, 2013, 07:16:25 AM
Alright, on King, although I own a few of his books, I've only read from IT, and I really enjoyed the movie thinner, I would probably like the book. 
Dweez, that's a cool fact about himself and his daughter. 
I'm reading East of Eden again. This is about the 4th time in the decade since I first read it.  That is a lot for me, I have a hard time finishing books.  Eden has distinctive characters, colorful, but not over done.  A story that will break your heart and make you wane in your seat from the tension. 
I bought a copy of Patti Smith's book, "Just Kids" and finally found a copy of the Outlaw Bible of American Poetry.... I've waited a decade to own that book, and can't find a moment to open it.  If I've wanted to read in the last month I've gone for Eden. 

I still stand by Chuck Palahniuk's RANT, best new book I have read in a cat's life. Story of a wild child living in a country town in the south, with a VERY surprising twist. 
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: tarascon on March 26, 2013, 07:39:43 AM
Palahniuk is a lot of fun. I've read about four of his novels.
The book he wrote about the young Chinese sleeper agent (Pygmy) is probably my favorite. Strange... but I haven't read Fight Club yet.


 
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on March 26, 2013, 09:05:14 AM
t, perhaps "gifted" was a little overly enthusiastic.  When you expect nothing more than a hack and find somebody who can actually spin a compelling yarn with good descriptive passages that verge on evocative, then the surprise can perhaps nudge one into greater attributions of quality than deserved.

I've spoken to others who enjoyed King's books.  I never felt compelled to read anything else by him (except the one New Yorker short story in the Halloween issue a few years back).  I just don't like intellectual snobbery, and perhaps my embrace of him was in that vein.  Just because someone is popular doesn't necessarily mean they suck, but then, again, accessibility is not and never has been a criterion for me.

My house is full of books, many of the fiction titles are things I picked up at library sales or that people put out on the curb in discard boxes, so chance plays a real role in what I read for recreation.  The rest is work related, and most of my library is comprised of books that relate to my work.  I look over these titles--those mentioned by the posters on here--with some envy, as I feel guilty for reading simply for pleasure, as if it constitutes bless'ed off on some level (in other words, I should be reading something serious and work related instead).  And I'm a champion procrastinator, so I'll close for now.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: goldshirt*9 on March 26, 2013, 12:43:45 PM
have read a few of Kings books.
i  found at the end of the talisman / stand Wtf is that it .so disappointed.
misery was great and so was the film, which makes a change.
prolific yes, one of the best  in his genre, for his fans yes.
so so for me im afraid.
but this the fun of books, one persons hate's it and another love's it. thats life  ;D

Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: tarascon on March 26, 2013, 12:57:30 PM
^ Ultimately it's all good... grist for the mill.  ;D
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: SACPOP on March 26, 2013, 01:57:31 PM
I was cleaning out a closet today and I found Filth by Irvine Welsh. I remember liking that. I also found Snuff and Diary by Palahniuk, but I don't remember liking those much.
I used to be a big reader but I haven't read much in the past few years.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: Autumn on March 26, 2013, 02:43:42 PM
I've never brought myself to read any palahniuk.. I've wanted to, but there was always something I was more interested in. Ken follett, lee child, and many others have suffered this same fate.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: Autumn on March 26, 2013, 04:34:52 PM
I like stories, I hate "literature". I really dislike books that include sentences that you have to read twelve times before you begin to understand what was intended, let alone books that are nothing but.

In addition to this, those books that say one thing but you're supposed to interpret a whole other meaning that's completely unrelated to the actual text.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on March 26, 2013, 06:02:41 PM
Language is such a nuanced thing and it's so hard to use it skillfully.  Writing is a craft.  Storytelling, doing that well, is a hard task.  Still, there are so many ways to get it right.  I agree with Chris's take on King.  He does have the skill to create an atmosphere and to create interesting plots, but often, probably too often, he opts for doom and gloom when it is all too predictable.  Not every book is the Castle of Otranto (the mother of all gothick novels), but you know things aren't going to go well from page 1, pretty much any time you pick him up.  Defeating or making that expectation irrelevant is what would redeem any writer in that genre and I suspect it's a great deal harder than it might sound on its face.

I read everything from Island of the Blue Dolphins to JR (Wm. Gaddis).  Children's books can be wonderful, even in their simplicity.  Sometimes, you can tell a story with only pictures, as in Edward (the vain donkey).  Or you can be sarcastic or perverse as in Harry the Poisonous Centipede, or Fables you shouldn't pay any attention to.  autumn, Bea, I envy you the many years of pleasurable mutual exploration of children's books with your kids.  How fun to read with children.  They have their own take on the books.

I love Philip K. D-ick. I really like good science fiction.  I don't know the Fantasy genre and think it might be hard for me to like it, but if anyone has some good suggestions, I'm game.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: tarascon on March 26, 2013, 08:24:43 PM
I don't know the Fantasy genre and think it might be hard for me to like it, but if anyone has some good suggestions, I'm game.

I thought this was a good fantasy read which generally plays against the overused themes of the genre. The Acacia Trilogy by David Anthony Durham.
http://aidanmoher.com/blog/2012/07/reviews/review-of-the-acacia-trilogy-by-david-anthony-durham/ (http://aidanmoher.com/blog/2012/07/reviews/review-of-the-acacia-trilogy-by-david-anthony-durham/)
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: Autumn on March 26, 2013, 10:29:16 PM
Language is such a nuanced thing and it's so hard to use it skillfully.  Writing is a craft.  Storytelling, doing that well, is a hard task.  Still, there are so many ways to get it right.  I agree with Chris's take on King.  He does have the skill to create an atmosphere and to create interesting plots, but often, probably too often, he opts for doom and gloom when it is all too predictable.  Not every book is the Castle of Otranto (the mother of all gothick novels), but you know things aren't going to go well from page 1, pretty much any time you pick him up.  Defeating or making that expectation irrelevant is what would redeem any writer in that genre and I suspect it's a great deal harder than it might sound on its face.

I read everything from Island of the Blue Dolphins to JR (Wm. Gaddis).  Children's books can be wonderful, even in their simplicity.  Sometimes, you can tell a story with only pictures, as in Edward (the vain donkey).  Or you can be sarcastic or perverse as in Harry the Poisonous Centipede, or Fables you shouldn't pay any attention to.  autumn, Bea, I envy you the many years of pleasurable mutual exploration of children's books with your kids.  How fun to read with children.  They have their own take on the books.

I love Philip K. D-ick. I really like good science fiction.  I don't know the Fantasy genre and think it might be hard for me to like it, but if anyone has some good suggestions, I'm game.

Right now Adrianna enjoys Beatrix potter books, but I find them terribly written. Also Eric Carl (something like that) and sue boynton. Typically silly plotless books. I can't wait to get to the good stuff. Nancy drew and more shel Silverstein and goosebumps haha
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: Discover99 on March 27, 2013, 04:45:05 AM


I like stories, I hate "literature". I really dislike books that include sentences that you have to read twelve times before you begin to understand what was intended, let alone books that are nothing but.

I've never put it that way myself, but I absolutely feel the same.

That's also a reason why certain poems annoy me deeply
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: Autumn on March 27, 2013, 06:15:04 AM
Don't diss the Hungry Caterpillar, ma'am.

We have one about a cricket.

Why not discuss hungry caterpillar?
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: dweez on March 27, 2013, 06:32:13 AM
I always enjoyed "The Stinky Cheese Man".
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on March 27, 2013, 07:35:32 AM
This:

Led me to this:

"This chaotic writing style may, some critics argue, reflect Gaddis' preoccupation with entropy and with the 20th century's rejection of Newtonian physics, the narrative style thus reflecting a quantum and Heisenbergian world of "waste, flux and chaos.""

Gakk.

Don't confuse what a critic writes with the novel itself.

The book (JR) uses pure conversation instead of the formulaic, "Nancy sighed, 'whatever do you mean by that?' as John opened the curtains on a bleak Tuesday morning."

Gaddis recognizes that in real life, people don't interject descriptive phrases, they just talk to one another in their own voices.  Listening allows one to distinguish the voices.  If you were blind, you'd hear just speech, but you'd immediately be able to tell who was talking in the same room.

This is a novel way to write, but it sorts itself out quickly enough, because he does this with great skill.  You soon realize you can pick out each character and identify who is speaking because they each have very distinctive voices.  That book was long and involved.  I was so sad when it ended that I read it again.  That's quite a testimonial for a novel of such length.  Here's the plot:  a fifth grader buying penny stocks builds up an enormous financial empire using his substitute teacher as a front man.  It's wickedly funny and sad at the same time.

dweez, I don't know the Stinky Cheese Man, but I'll look for it next time I'm at the library. 
autumn, as for Beatrix Potter, children like repetition, even though it often makes for dull reading.  (And to be fair, Peter Rabbit is hardly what I'd call "plotless."  There's quite the drama there.)  My bird loves the afternoon children's programming on pbs so I put on the tv for him.  He loves the Cat in the Hat even though the same damned songs play over and over every day.  The little boy across the street used to come and watch tv with the bird.  His mother said the kids really like the repetition and structure.  Maybe it has something to do with the maturation of the brain at that age.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: Beatrix on March 27, 2013, 08:04:23 AM
Don't diss the Hungry Caterpillar, ma'am.
I read that to my kids.  And  The Tiny Seed, The Mixed-Up Chameleon, and my favorite, The Very Quiet Cricket. 
I wanted to mention Palahniuk's Invisible Mosters, and I haven't read Pigmy or Diary yet. 

And on fantasy books, So far the Drizzt series is good.  I also liked Pool of Radiance.  You could always read The Hobbit again, it's such a good read.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: goldshirt*9 on March 27, 2013, 08:22:12 AM
I am currently ploughing through Robert Jordan's "Wheel of Time", a thoroughly misogynistic shelf-yard of sub-Tolkein "fantasy", because I got hooked half a lifetime ago.
That series started so well, I just couldn't wait for the next book.Got to The Crown of Thorns and I thought what the hell is happening, so many tangents in a single book.
I also didn't realise that someone took over the writing.
Are  Brandon Sanderson books keeping to the same writing style ?
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: tarascon on March 27, 2013, 09:16:50 AM
Don't confuse what a critic writes with the novel itself.
...
Here's the plot:  a fifth grader buying penny stocks builds up an enormous financial empire using his substitute teacher as a front man.  It's wickedly funny and sad at the same time.
Well said. Critics are paid to talk shite.  ;D

Another great novel with a young protagonists is Ratner's Star by Don DeLillo which features a math prodigy.
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on March 27, 2013, 09:35:14 AM
I liked Enders Game.  OSC has some questionable politics.  There was a heated thread about this on the Noid fora at one point.

Pratchett is a complete unknown.  I'll check him out.

The Hobbit is a wonderful book.  I'm not sure how old you have to be to appreciate it.  I read it when I was about 12.  Loved it.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: goldshirt*9 on March 27, 2013, 11:26:36 AM
Pratchett is a complete unknown.  I'll check him out.
A total genius, the more you read the discworld series, the cleverer it gets.
The Rincewind books are my favourite followed by Sam Vimes, Read in order though  ;D ;D ;D Awsome.
Title: Re: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: Autumn on March 27, 2013, 08:38:55 PM
I always enjoyed "The Stinky Cheese Man".

Oh yeah! I remember that one!

autumn, as for Beatrix Potter, children like repetition, even though it often makes for dull reading.  (And to be fair, Peter Rabbit is hardly what I'd call "plotless."  There's quite the drama there.)  My bird loves the afternoon children's programming on pbs so I put on the tv for him.  He loves the Cat in the Hat even though the same damned songs play over and over every day.  The little boy across the street used to come and watch tv with the bird.  His mother said the kids really like the repetition and structure.  Maybe it has something to do with the maturation of the brain at that age.

It's not the repetition that bothers me, it's the language and grammar. It's just weird, I don't know anyone that talks like that. It feels unnatural.
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Post by: tarascon on April 03, 2013, 06:18:42 AM
Just wrapping up Black Wings of Cthulhu, S. T. Joshi (ed.).

An anthology of contemporary writers who'd caught the Lovecraft bug.
Some of the stories are well... crafted. Some are not. All are interesting to some degree.
http://www.geeksofdoom.com/2012/03/20/book-review-black-wings-of-cthulhu-21-tales-of-lovecraftian-horror (http://www.geeksofdoom.com/2012/03/20/book-review-black-wings-of-cthulhu-21-tales-of-lovecraftian-horror)
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Post by: smokester on April 03, 2013, 07:51:27 AM
At tarascon's request I have merged Autumn's thread with his older "parchments" one.  I have modified the title throughout to reflect both threads.

It seemed sensible and keeps us tidy, which I need to compensate for my real life.
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Post by: mishca09 on April 03, 2013, 10:04:19 PM
I am reading a book by Victoria alexander. She is a HR writer , I mostly read those days because it relaxes me.
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Post by: tarascon on April 03, 2013, 10:11:15 PM
Please check out my addition to the OP. This is as much Autumn's thread as it is mine.  :)

Unfinished Tales by J.R.R. Tolkien, (edited by Christopher Tolkien)

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7329.Unfinished_Tales_of_N_menor_and_Middle_Earth (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7329.Unfinished_Tales_of_N_menor_and_Middle_Earth)

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Post by: Autumn on April 03, 2013, 10:46:57 PM
:)
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on April 04, 2013, 02:57:08 AM
have just finished Roadside Picnic by Arkady and Boris Strugatsky
Thoroughly enjoyed although i suffer from lazy reader syndrome ( I skip along the pages and words ) have to concentrate like mad.
Lost the story line a few times until I realised  Redrick was the man binding the book together.
Loved the fact not once did the authors describe what was in the zone to be afraid of, a subtle hint and a few words left it all to the reader to use their imagination ( would this work today ?? ).
Monkey was a shock and the "Zombie".
The ending was unusual, still cannot get my head around it, i am sure someone of more intellect can advise me.
Will look into the other books i have of his / them.
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Post by: tarascon on April 04, 2013, 06:41:48 AM
^
;D
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on April 05, 2013, 01:12:21 AM
I keep getting a "Milton" moment when i think of the ending again.
All the sacrifices / challenges he had to make to find his "god".
His wish kind of stands out as well
 "HAPPINESS FOR EVERYBODY, FREE, AND LET NO ONE GO AWAY UNSATISFIED".
Any way on to the next book
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Post by: tarascon on April 05, 2013, 09:46:31 AM
You should see how the Stalker games ends.

Spoiler (hover to show)
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on April 13, 2013, 02:48:15 AM
ATM I am reading A Good Year by Peter Mayle .
Nothing like the movie, not too bad but not too demanding a read either.
Have a few James Jones books in the pipeline to follow
I forgot that i read Neuromancer by  William Gibson last saturday whilst waiting for the wife and daughter
to come out of the O2 arena. still good
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Post by: smokester on April 13, 2013, 05:29:02 AM
How is it that everybody else's days are far longer than mine?
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Post by: Autumn on April 13, 2013, 08:48:52 AM
How is it that everybody else's days are far longer than mine?

You do too much.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on April 13, 2013, 09:39:36 AM
We live in a Time Warp , with a jump to the left
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on April 13, 2013, 12:12:09 PM
chrisT.  you are so naughty, even though that's true.

My day, yesterday, sucked.  I was not feeling well.  Ate lunch, fell asleep and kept sleeping, when I woke up I felt bad and had chills.  This bummed me out to no end as I had so much to do and got nearly nothing accomplished.  The ringing in my ears suggests it was some kind of a bug and I have a little remaining.  I slept unusually late today, too.  It's weird. 

I'm reading Rupa Gulab's Girl Alone (Penguin Books).  It's a coming of age novel by a young Indian woman and is filled with stories of romance, failed prospects, and job experiences in the ad industry.  It's fluff, really.  I have no idea how it came into my possession.  Somebody may have put it out on the sidewalk (as is common around here) in a box.  I get a great number of free books that way, and I pick up stuff that looks interesting.  This book's price tag on the back says that it cost 225 Rupees.  That's amazing.  It traveled all the way from India to my home in the states.  I read it before I go to sleep at night and it's sort of a quiet way to relax.  I would not recommend it except for youngish women, its intended audience.  It's got a sort of Sex and the City vibe.
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Post by: smokester on April 13, 2013, 04:38:49 PM
Don't fret, dear, size isn't everything.

Thanks, I needed that.

On topic: I actually bought Lamb after you'd mentioned it (it looked right up my street) and I plan to read it very soon.  But don't quote me..
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Post by: tarascon on April 13, 2013, 04:44:55 PM
Re-read some Lovecraft last week and am now reading China Mieville's Embassytown.
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Post by: ohcheap1 on April 13, 2013, 09:04:16 PM
Don't fret, dear, size isn't everything.
chrisT.  you are so naughty, even though that's true.

Besides the fact that six communicates and christ posts you guys should be pals if ever you meet. Bring your spouses, theyll have alot to talk about. Ha!!
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Post by: Nobby on April 14, 2013, 08:44:26 AM
Currently on:
Warm Bodies = Isaac Marion

Then will follow with:
We Need to Talk About Kevin = Lionel Shriver
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Post by: Beatrix on April 14, 2013, 10:48:57 AM
I have a bet that "We need to talk about Kevin" is a good read.
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Post by: tarascon on April 14, 2013, 11:19:32 AM
I have a bet that "We need to talk about Kevin" is a good read.

It is. But not a happy sort of novel.

I'd like to say more about China Mieville...
Embassytown is a well-written, thoughtful book. I'm having great fun with it so far... it's about a human colony on an alien planet which functions as an embassy for ET. The main ET's are a race (Ariekei) who--even more than other sentient species--think in metaphors and similes and for whom all other language is merely noise; even those humans who are adept at "speaking" Ariekan have a difficult time making the Ariekei hear them as the content is not in the language itself but in the conscious intent behind the language. I can't imagine what someone who's not familiar with the thinking about language and meaning since Saussure (a linguist and semiotician) will make of this novel. I find it challenging and the novel demands a close read.
Mieville is an author who began with straightforward fantasy/science fiction and has developed into a writer who's doing a neat job of approaching the social, gender oriented story-telling of Samuel Delany & Ursula LeGuin. In The City & The City, Mieville crossed genres by writing a police procedural about an urban space composed of two separate cities which occupy the same space but not the same area. Our hero has a gruesome murder to solve. The cities are entirely two different cultural and social spheres and the citizens--though perhaps only feet apart--do not "see" each other. To do so is an social error... even a crime. In this case the map is not equal to the territory.
Mieville is doing what the best science fiction has always done which is to make us think about our own (Western) culture. I look forward to what this author has to bring us in the future.
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on April 14, 2013, 01:42:50 PM
I've got a copy of Perdido Street Station.  Do you have an opinion on that--is it worth reading?   I'm unfamiliar with this author.

Happily, I got rid of Girl Alone last night.  It wasn't a good book, but it was such a fast read that inertia got me through it before I was annoyed enough to put it down.

Next:  return to Merleau-Ponty and the Cogito chapter of Phenomenology of Perception.  This book is like calasthenics for your brain.  It was one of two PhD dissertations he wrote back in 1945.  I feel like a drooling idiot compared to people like that who think so deeply about the nature of the world.  If only I had that kind of sustained and disciplined ability to analyze things...
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Post by: tarascon on April 14, 2013, 02:30:47 PM
I've got a copy of Perdido Street Station.  Do you have an opinion on that--is it worth reading?   I'm unfamiliar with this author.

Next:  return to Merleau-Ponty and the Cogito chapter of Phenomenology of Perception.  This book is like calasthenics for your brain.  It was one of two PhD dissertations he wrote back in 1945.  I feel like a drooling idiot compared to people like that who think so deeply about the nature of the world.  If only I had that kind of sustained and disciplined ability to analyze things...

I read that a few years ago and enjoyed it. It's fairly straight stuff compared to his latest.
And, as you know, I read a lot of Merleau-Ponty (and pro/con critiques about him) and, of course, his magnum opus Phenomenology of Perception.
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Post by: Nobby on April 14, 2013, 03:21:25 PM
That's a Star Trek : Next Gen reference
for anybody who did not know  ;D

I thought of that also  :)

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Darmok_%28episode%29
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Post by: tarascon on April 14, 2013, 03:23:46 PM
^ That's the Star Trek episode, right? Yeah, I did think of that--it's one of my favorite Next Generation episodes.

I should add that my saying how I'd read Merleau-Ponty above was not a gratuitous atta boy to me. I neglected to mention that, in the same way Embassytown is about semiotics, The City & The City is about perception and how we are taught to process what we see (or do not see). The way we perceive the world around us is a learned response and not only a function of biology. Mieville plays with that concept and extrapolates upon it.
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Post by: ohcheap1 on April 14, 2013, 09:08:41 PM
I have a bet that "We need to talk about Kevin" is a good read.
The movie was INCREDIBLE  so the book most likely adds several stars to that.
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Post by: tarascon on April 14, 2013, 10:28:25 PM
The movie was good and--for me--more engaging than the book was, actually. To explain why would be a spoiler for folks, so... let's just say that the suspension of disbelief was not possible for me.
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Post by: tarascon on April 15, 2013, 06:09:34 AM
pr0n
That's th' first time I ran across that term--hadda look it up.
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Post by: dweez on April 15, 2013, 07:24:34 AM
Jasper Fforde does something similar in "Shades of Grey". (The real one, not the pr0n one)

christ is so street!
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Post by: smokester on April 15, 2013, 11:46:00 AM
pr0n
That's th' first time I ran across that term--hadda look it up.

Me too.
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Post by: tarascon on April 15, 2013, 06:47:47 PM
sn0b   ;D
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Post by: dweez on April 15, 2013, 07:37:10 PM
n00bs.

Liars more like it...at least in smokes case.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on April 16, 2013, 12:16:56 AM
n00bs.
  ;D ;D everyone was once.
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Post by: smokester on April 17, 2013, 12:32:16 PM
Quote from: christ
n00bs.
  ;D ;D everyone was once.

Not so.

n00bs are a special class of users: you can be a new user without being a n00b, and you can most definitely be a n00b a long time after you cease to be a new user..

Don't be at all surprised if a n00 thread appears in chaos consisting of the last 10 or so posts.
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Post by: xtopave on April 17, 2013, 02:02:52 PM
I dunno. You moderators really should at least try and keep the delinquent users approximately on topic.

Tsk.

What? I'll testify under oath that all the above posts could be classified as "Parchment".  :D

All right, all right,  ::)  on topic: I've read El último Catón by Matilde Asensi. Very "Dan Brownish". Quite entertaining.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on April 18, 2013, 12:45:27 AM
still traipsing through A Good Year - peter Mayle.
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on April 18, 2013, 06:31:40 AM
Perdido Street Station in the evenings before I go to sleep.  I'm about 3 chapters in.  There's some very good description here, but I'm not so sure about it.
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Post by: tarascon on April 18, 2013, 07:06:51 AM
A Skeleton Key to Finnegans Wake by Joseph Campbell and Henry Robinson. The first of its kind, 1944.
Earwicker lives.
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Post by: mishca09 on April 18, 2013, 03:27:43 PM
tessa dare….wicked week or something it was called. it was enjoyable , I had actually read it already .
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on April 20, 2013, 12:06:14 AM
Finished A Good Year by Peter Mayle and can honestly state, nothing like the film.
But what to read next ?
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Post by: tarascon on May 13, 2013, 06:44:23 AM
Too many to mention since my last post, the most recent being Can't Find My Way Home by Martin Torgoff.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/429701.Can_t_Find_My_Way_Home (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/429701.Can_t_Find_My_Way_Home)
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on May 13, 2013, 01:53:35 PM
The Spy Who Came In from the Cold -  John le Carré
Aim to read the entire Smiley books series before moving on to Morgan Rice Novels
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on May 13, 2013, 02:36:39 PM
That's cool.  We just finished watching all the BBC miniseries from those books.  I've never read anything by Le Carrée.  Let us know what you think.

I'm still slogging through Perdido Street Station.  nearly 500 pages in and waiting for them to kill off those pests already.  sheesh.  talk about milking it.  Don't they use editors any more?
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on May 14, 2013, 12:02:18 AM
so far so good, not as hard as read as i thought it would be.
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Post by: tarascon on May 14, 2013, 08:00:53 AM
That's cool.  We just finished watching all the BBC miniseries from those books.  I've never read anything by Le Carrée.  Let us know what you think.

I'm still slogging through Perdido Street Station.  nearly 500 pages in and waiting for them to kill off those pests already.  sheesh.  talk about milking it.  Don't they use editors any more?

I have a friend in Albuquerque who started reading Mieville on account of an email I sent him a month ago. He's read a bunch by now and is on Perdido Street at the moment. I quote his latest email to me: Churning thru the Mieville corpus, still pretty entertaining, altho still like Iron Council the best...Perdido Street Station is slow by comparison...

>> I'm reading The Rise and Fall of Ancient Egypt by Toby Wilkinson.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/29/books/the-rise-and-fall-of-ancient-egypt-review.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/29/books/the-rise-and-fall-of-ancient-egypt-review.html?_r=0)


I am going to try and complete
le morte d'arthur soon.

How's that going for you?
You might want to check this out: Malory: The Life and Times of King Arthur's Chronicler
by Christina Hardyment
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Post by: Autumn on May 20, 2013, 12:18:43 AM
N time for reading lately... :( dying to read my new Molly Harper.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on May 20, 2013, 07:22:00 AM
4th book in the smiley series.  :D
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Post by: tarascon on June 08, 2013, 06:57:41 AM
The last few books...

1) Shadow Country by Peter Matthiessen. Big Thumb's Up and is as good as the best of William Faulkner.
This contains spoilers: http://seattletimes.com/html/books/2004356104_shadowcountry20.html (http://seattletimes.com/html/books/2004356104_shadowcountry20.html)

2) Mind of the South by W.J. Cash. A book I bought years ago and felt needed to be dusted off after finishing Shadow Country.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/114560.The_Mind_of_the_South (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/114560.The_Mind_of_the_South)

3) The Hemlock Cup by Bettany Hughes. This woman is very good at what she does; check out her Helen of Troy. Ms. Hughes has also hosted some excellent documentaries. And ya gotta love a gal who wears an evening gown and hiking boots as she explores the ruins of Knossos!
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/20/books/review/Isaacson-t.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/20/books/review/Isaacson-t.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0)

4) The Walking Dead: The Road to Woodbury by R. Kirkman and J. Bonansinga. Barely interesting, un-scary, and riven by hyperbolic language.
http://blogcritics.org/book-review-the-walking-dead-the/ (http://blogcritics.org/book-review-the-walking-dead-the/)

5) A Flag for Sunrise by Robert Stone. Currently reading... Stone is a thoughtful writer with a background in the Haight-Ashbury era of San Francisco.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/832930.A_Flag_for_Sunrise (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/832930.A_Flag_for_Sunrise)
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on June 19, 2013, 01:32:33 PM
trying to read the last series from
Raymond E Feist - The Chaoswar Saga trilogy.I am finding it hard to complete, possibly just a series too far?
Although i absolutely loved his first series The Riftwar Saga and Empire Trilogy ( which I love).
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Post by: Autumn on June 20, 2013, 11:34:18 PM
I was recommended Neil gaiman/terry pratchett's good omens. Anyone read this? Should I buy?
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Post by: smokester on June 21, 2013, 02:27:54 AM
Yes, and yes.

What he said. 

I did find it a bit weird reading a jointly written book though, especially as I'd read every word Pratchett had ever written at that stage, and absolutely nothing by Gaiman
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on June 21, 2013, 08:34:46 AM
I'm reading Sir Walter Scott's Kenilworth, set in the sixteenth century.

It can be summed up as "don't date him, girl!" in an age before the interwebs.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on June 21, 2013, 09:01:01 AM
... on that subject, I enjoyed "Stardust" too.
Didnt realise he wrote the book, love the movie  :)
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Post by: Autumn on June 22, 2013, 07:54:10 AM
It does come across as a Gaiman book with bits by Pratchett, as well.

... on that subject, I enjoyed "Stardust" too.

I'm a Gaiman fan, I haven't read much Pratchett.

I've first got to finish my six books that I'm in the middle of... then I can read it. :)

Christ: You should read Neverwhere.

P.S. One of my favorite books is to become a tv series on HBO: American Gods. Good Omens is rumored to be adapted for tv, as well.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on June 23, 2013, 02:33:23 AM
Have just obtained some Gaiman books so i will be  looking at soon
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Post by: Autumn on June 27, 2013, 01:36:13 AM
 :)
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on July 04, 2013, 12:57:27 PM
reading American Tales by Nigel Gaiman
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Post by: Autumn on July 04, 2013, 10:47:14 PM
Finally started good omens.
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Post by: tarascon on January 12, 2014, 08:26:40 AM
A lot since I last posted.
Currently:
Spoiler (hover to show)
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Post by: xtopave on January 12, 2014, 05:53:26 PM
There is a zombie in Dante and I will share where if anyone wants to know.

I want to know since I won't read the Divina Commedia in a close future.  :D
Title: Zombies in The Divine Comedy
Post by: tarascon on January 12, 2014, 09:58:24 PM
I want to know since I won't read the Divina Commedia in a close future.  :D

Inferno, Canto XXXIII:

...
And, that thou mayest more willingly remove
From off my countenance these glassy tears,
Know that as soon as any soul betrays

As I have done, his body by a demon
Is taken from him, who thereafter rules it,
Until his time has wholly been revolved.

Itself down rushes into such a cistern;
And still perchance above appears the body
Of yonder shade, that winters here behind me.

This thou shouldst know, if thou hast just come down;
It is Ser Branca d' Oria, and many years
Have passed away since he was thus locked up."

"I think," said I to him, "thou dost deceive me;
For Branca d' Oria is not dead as yet,
And eats, and drinks, and sleeps, and puts on clothes."

"In moat above," said he, "of Malebranche,
There where is boiling the tenacious pitch,
As yet had Michel Zanche not arrived,

When this one left a devil in his stead
In his own body and one near of kin,
Who made together with him the betrayal.

But hitherward stretch out thy hand forthwith,
Open mine eyes;"--and open them I did not,
And to be rude to him was courtesy.

Ah, Genoese! ye men at variance
With every virtue, full of every vice
Wherefore are ye not scattered from the world?

For with the vilest spirit of Romagna
I found of you one such, who for his deeds
In soul already in Cocytus bathes,
And still above in body seems alive!


This is an older translation--not as fluid or beautiful as the Hollander translation.
The gist of it is, is that for those who betray guests (as d' Oria did) the soul is immediately taken down to Hell while their (empty) bodies stay above on earth... eating, walking until the body decays and dies (a second time). If that's not a description of a zombie, I don't know what is.
  :o
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Post by: FDB on January 13, 2014, 01:32:48 AM
Finished Under The Dome this weekend. I was underwhelmed. SK seemed to give up on the story after the Halloween event, after that the story felt rushed and ill thought out.

The human element was also lacking, it wasn't as diverse as The Stand. There is no betrayal or back stabbing, I would have thought Rennie would have wanted to infiltrate 'Barbie's Friends', but it never came. Maybe i've read too much A Song of Ice & Fire with it's batshit crazy characters, but Under The Dome just felt alittle uncreative in that regard.
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Post by: tarascon on January 13, 2014, 06:46:29 AM
Has anyone read Joe Abercrombie?
I read "The First Law trilogy" of books and thought they were a lot of fun. Sort hard-boiled fantasy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Abercrombie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Abercrombie)
Title: Re: Zombies in The Divine Comedy
Post by: xtopave on January 13, 2014, 07:32:22 AM
This is an older translation--not as fluid or beautiful as the Hollander translation.
The gist of it is, is that for those who betray guests (as d' Oria did) the soul is immediately taken down to Hell while their (empty) bodies stay above on earth... eating, walking until the body decays and dies (a second time). If that's not a description of a zombie, I don't know what is.
  :o

So Branca d'Oria was the first zombie and Dante didn't like Genoeses?  :D
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Post by: tarascon on January 13, 2014, 07:37:54 AM
I'd say that was a fair assessment. He-he.

My copies of Dante come with copious notes which, when reading him, are de rigueur for us non-academic moderns. The city and party politics of his time are dense and The Divine Comedy is all about that.
Dante was from Florence and a Guelph which placed him in opposition to almost everyone who was from any other Italian city and/or a Ghibelline. Guelphs were for the papacy as a political entity. Ghibellines were for the idea of empire.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guelphs_and_Ghibellines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guelphs_and_Ghibellines)
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Post by: xtopave on January 13, 2014, 07:51:01 AM
I'd say that was a fair assessment. He-he.

Indeed it was! Interesting too. Kinda make me want to read it. I wonder if I can find a decent Spanish version.
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Post by: tarascon on January 13, 2014, 07:57:33 AM
Try this. Maybe look into the translator; I don't know anything about him.
It's important to get away from the older translations (like the one I posted above). They're too stiff, too formal... you want something that flows and isn't a chore. I really like the Hollander translations but, alas, in English only atm.

http://www.amazon.com/Divina-comedia-Divine-Spanish-Edition/dp/8420609099 (http://www.amazon.com/Divina-comedia-Divine-Spanish-Edition/dp/8420609099)
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Post by: xtopave on January 13, 2014, 08:03:03 AM
It's important to get away from the older translations (like the one I posted above). They're too stiff, too formal... you want something that flows and isn't a chore.

Exactly!
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on January 17, 2014, 09:27:16 AM
I must confess, at my ripe old age I have never read Dickens. :-\

Over the last few days I have started to read
A Tale of Two Cities

Well at the start it reads wonderfully.
Why didn't I read before now  :-X
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on January 17, 2014, 08:54:07 PM
I'm reading snippets of Diderot's Encyclopedia.  It's informative.
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Post by: Maudibe on January 19, 2014, 12:34:47 PM
The Book Thief
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Post by: tarascon on January 19, 2014, 02:11:09 PM
Still working thru Dante... my evening read is Wicked.
After a slow start, I'm enjoying it.
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Post by: Nobby on January 20, 2014, 04:53:02 AM
'Dodger' (Terry Pratchett)
'Dexter's Final Cut' (Jeff Lindsay) to follow

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Post by: tarascon on January 25, 2014, 10:41:03 AM
Morning read: Still working through Paradisio--which is an entirely different sort of beast than Dante's other two books. I'm at Canto XIII.

Evening read: Finished Maguire's Wicked. It was OK but have no desire to read the sequels. Finished A Visit From the Goon Squad by Jennifer Egan. I'd recommend this one.
Tonight I'll start The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay by Michael Chabon.

And, since this thread has the word "parchments" in it, I'd like to justify the goofy title by posting this beautiful picture of some parchment...  ;)

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/shaxper/music09_zpsa5619de2.jpg)
Chigi Codex http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chigi_codex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chigi_codex)
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on January 26, 2014, 03:30:21 AM
Am finishing off one of my favourites
Empire trilogy, Mistress of the Empire. An easy but good read.
Next i was going to read A Tale of Two Cities, but I am open to suggestions.
I did enjoy the "Roadside Picnic" recommendation.
May read "Johnny Mnemonic", any good anyone ?
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Post by: tarascon on January 26, 2014, 06:55:29 AM
Next i was going to read A Tale of Two Cities, but I am open to suggestions.

Will that be your first Dickens? Try Oliver Twist... I've only read maybe 3 of his. I liked that one the best.

I did enjoy the "Roadside Picnic" recommendation.

I'm glad you did. The Strugatsky brothers are good--happy to see them back in print. Read them around 1975. Check out Stanislaw Lem.
http://rusf.ru/abs/english/ (http://rusf.ru/abs/english/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Lem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Lem)

Another parchment:
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/shaxper/index_zpsc6afb413.jpg)
Megillat Esther Scroll
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on January 27, 2014, 10:00:06 AM
cheers for recommendations  ;)
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Post by: tarascon on January 30, 2014, 06:12:07 AM
Picked up a biography I started about 2 years ago.
Andrew Hodges' Alan Turing:The Enigma.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/alan-turing-the-enigma-by-andrew-hodges-7851444.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/alan-turing-the-enigma-by-andrew-hodges-7851444.html)
Title: Misbehaving
Post by: tarascon on February 26, 2014, 03:03:55 PM
Gotta do a bump.  ::)

I don't list every book I read. Since my last post, it must number about 8 books...
At the moment I'm reading The Once and Future King by Mr. White. It's unique and I can't believe I didn't read this sooner--maybe it was the association with the Disney flick.
Title: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: Nobby on February 26, 2014, 05:29:51 PM
Raising Steam = Terry Pratchett
Title: Re: Misbehaving
Post by: goldshirt*9 on February 27, 2014, 07:25:09 AM
At the moment I'm reading The Once and Future King by Mr. White. It's unique and I can't believe I didn't read this sooner--maybe it was the association with the Disney flick.
I have tried and tried to read, but all I get is
"The Sword and the Stone" movie in my head.
I Hate Disney
Title: Re: Misbehaving
Post by: tarascon on February 27, 2014, 11:19:47 AM
I Hate Disney

+1
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Post by: dweez on February 27, 2014, 02:39:39 PM
-1

(http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo51/dw33z/Smileys/185248_10150348916921729_20531316728_9500420_1221014_n-300x233-150x150_zpsbc3b9354.jpg)
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Post by: Maudibe on February 27, 2014, 05:14:55 PM
Learn to love Dizz-nee guys they now own all of our fav franchises
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on February 27, 2014, 08:12:31 PM
Wicked started out well, but ultimately it disappointed me.

Parchment?  You want parchment?  vellum?  (parchment = calf, goat, sheepskins, vellum = calf)

http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/Viewer.aspx?ref=add_ms_24098_fs001r (http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/Viewer.aspx?ref=add_ms_24098_fs001r)

http://digitalcollections.tcd.ie/home/#MS58_004v (http://digitalcollections.tcd.ie/home/#MS58_004v)
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Post by: tarascon on February 28, 2014, 07:55:40 AM
Wicked started out well, but ultimately it disappointed me.

I totally agree with that. It became pretty silly around the middle and outright lame during the last third. I will not read the sequels.
Thank you, 6, for the links.

Here's one:
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/shaxper/Magna-Carta_zps9395b91d.jpg)
Magna-Carta
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on February 28, 2014, 08:07:21 AM
(http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo51/dw33z/Smileys/185248_10150348916921729_20531316728_9500420_1221014_n-300x233-150x150_zpsbc3b9354.jpg)
creep  ;D

Learn to love Dizz-nee guys they now own all of our fav franchises
. all they did was borrow and and sugar coat them
read The Brothers Grimm
Title: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: tarascon on February 28, 2014, 08:32:03 AM
When I was a teenager I got my hands on a Mexican comic book published by the communist party which took all the Disney characters (like Scrooge McDuck, I think) and portrayed them as capitalist oppressors. It was in Spanish but I got the point.
I cannot find any reference to this comic online; probably suppressed by the corporation.

Btw, I do not consider myself a communist. My allegiance lies with The Temporary Autonomous Zone.

>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_Autonomous_Zone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_Autonomous_Zone)
Hakim Bey is the nom-de-guerre of a Caucasian British chap...
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on March 05, 2014, 12:29:48 AM
struggling through the
elric of melnibone series  :-\
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Post by: tarascon on March 05, 2014, 05:44:32 AM
A Bright Shining Lie by Neil Sheehan
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on March 05, 2014, 07:39:12 PM
Those links I posted don't work very well.  The one to the Book of Kells won't open, the other one you have to flip through a billion pages before you see anything.  I'll go find some better digitized stuff and link it.

Somebody just posted a link to zillions of older comix that have been digitised, here's the link:  They're all out of copyright so free access.
http://www.openculture.com/2014/03/download-15000-free-golden-age-comics-from-the-digital-comic-museum.html (http://www.openculture.com/2014/03/download-15000-free-golden-age-comics-from-the-digital-comic-museum.html)
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Post by: Beatrix on March 05, 2014, 08:01:27 PM
^thanks Six. 
I'd like Book of Kells, can I find it at Half Priced Books, I wonder?

time to google
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on March 06, 2014, 12:19:10 AM
I don't know.  There are facsimilies.  It's basically a collection of Gospels.
Here's a link. 
http://digitalcollections.tcd.ie/home/index.php?DRIS_ID=MS58_003v (http://digitalcollections.tcd.ie/home/index.php?DRIS_ID=MS58_003v)
Pretty much eye candy.  Kells is where it ended up I believe.  There are competing theories about its origins.  The Lindisfarne Gospels are also beautiful.  The zoom in feature at these sites is well worth checking out as the designs, illustrations, are really intricate.

http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/sacredtexts/lindisfarne_lg.html (http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/sacredtexts/lindisfarne_lg.html)
Title: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: tarascon on March 06, 2014, 05:08:38 AM
I had The Book of Kells. Once. Beautiful edition the book was about 11x24, or so. Sold it years ago (with all my art books).
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on March 08, 2014, 12:30:46 AM
Your avvy's hairdo reminds me of a hedgehog.  Sorry, I had to say it.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on March 08, 2014, 12:48:58 AM
Sonic by chance.
Gave up on the Elric.
Decided to go for a Thomas Covenant fest
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Post by: tarascon on March 08, 2014, 06:03:27 PM
Your avvy's hairdo reminds me of a hedgehog.  Sorry, I had to say it.

Samuel Beckett was a hedgehog sort of person.  ;D

Started The Ugly American by  Eugene Burdick & William J. Lederer. http://www.amazon.com/The-Ugly-American-Eugene-Burdick/dp/0393318672 (http://www.amazon.com/The-Ugly-American-Eugene-Burdick/dp/0393318672)

Wrapping up Bright and Shining Lie.
Title: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on March 19, 2014, 10:22:41 PM
I envy those who can read for pleasure.  All my reading is for work if not the occasional newspaper article.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on March 20, 2014, 12:19:42 AM
I never read newspapers, possibly because i'm too tight to waste money on them  ;D
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Post by: xtopave on March 20, 2014, 04:59:15 AM
Does anyone buy newspapers anymore?

I finally finished Män som hatar kvinnor (aka The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo). The first part is dense (not to say boring). It picks up speed in the middle (mostly bc the girl is a compelling character) and the ending is meh... Has anybody read the other parts?

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Post by: Maudibe on March 20, 2014, 06:49:28 AM
Does anyone buy newspapers anymore?

I finally finished Män som hatar kvinnor (aka The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo). The first part is dense (not to say boring). It picks up speed in the middle (mostly bc the girl is a compelling character) and the ending is meh... Has anybody read the other parts?
I read the whole series, I agree he can get a little dry at times. It's probably better in Swedish
I haven't bought or even read a paper in a few years now. Really not since Shultz died.
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Post by: tarascon on April 03, 2014, 07:04:37 PM
Embers of War by Fredrik Logevall.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/09/books/review/embers-of-war-by-fredrik-logevall.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/09/books/review/embers-of-war-by-fredrik-logevall.html?_r=0)
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Post by: xtopave on April 04, 2014, 05:07:26 PM
I quite enjoyed them. They require quite a high level of suspension of disbelief though.

I still believe my football team can win the Copa Libertadores so maybe I could enjoy the other two books.  :D
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Post by: tarascon on April 08, 2014, 08:08:33 AM
The Outpost by Jake Tapper.
And Shakespeare in America. Shapiro, ed.
http://www.loa.org/volume.jsp?RequestID=402 (http://www.loa.org/volume.jsp?RequestID=402)
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Post by: smokester on August 20, 2014, 11:10:20 AM
Oh Myyy! - There Goes the Internet ~ George Takei
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Post by: tarascon on September 18, 2014, 05:36:38 AM
My Struggle (Vol. 1) by Karl Ove Knausgaard.
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Post by: Nobby on September 18, 2014, 10:03:08 AM
Before I Go to Sleep - S. J. Watson
to be followed by:
Under the Skin - Michel Faber
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Post by: xtopave on September 18, 2014, 10:19:01 AM
My sister gave me The Third Gate by Lincoln Child. I'm reading about 5 pages per night before passing out so in about a year I'll comment on it.  ::)   But so far I can say I'm getting a Dan Brownish feeling...
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on October 31, 2014, 04:50:16 AM
atm
Nora Webster by Colm Toibin

Not a usual style for me to read but i thought why not, slow at first but gripping now
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Post by: tarascon on November 01, 2014, 01:38:13 PM
The History of Middle-earth (vol. 4) by J.R.R. Tolkien, ed., C. Tolkien.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shaping_of_Middle-earth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shaping_of_Middle-earth)


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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on November 08, 2014, 10:06:43 AM
I'm wading into Hobbes' Leviathan.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on November 18, 2014, 12:38:57 PM
If you have access to goodreads they have a section "Best Books of the ?? Century"
click on the different centuries and notice the difference in writing styles / target audience, or maybe teenagers are now having books written for them.
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/7 (https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/7)  21st century
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/6 (https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/6)  20th century
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/16 (https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/16) 19th century
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Post by: tarascon on November 18, 2014, 02:05:04 PM
Magnalia Christi Americana by Cotton Mather.
Still chipping away at C. Tolkien's History of Middle-earth series of books...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnalia_Christi_Americana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnalia_Christi_Americana)
Title: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: smokester on November 20, 2014, 04:25:40 PM
Kensuke's Kingdom - Michael Morpurgo

Or rather I'm reading it to/with my 8yr old daughter to move her up to the next level. There can be no more ignoring punctuation in this house. 

Except by me.
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Post by: tarascon on January 16, 2015, 05:48:11 AM
Kristin Lavransdatter by Sigrid Undset.

  I had found an old copy of this book back around 1973; published in 1929 and translated by Charles Archer, et al, it features a purposely archaic language in an attempt to convey 14th century conversational style. The thing is... people in the "olden days" did not necessarily speak this way--their day to day speech was as "modern" and colloquial amongst themselves as ours sounds today. Despite this archaizing translation from the Norwegian by Mr. Archer, I enjoyed the book but, for some reason (lost to me in the mists of time), I never finished the novel back in high school. I probably read the first 100 pages or so.
  Over the 2014 holidays I found a new translation by Tiina Nunnally who renders the language in a prosaic, unromantic manner while retaining the stark poetics of the Icelandic/Norse Sagas--as Ms. Unset intended. The book won a Noble Prize for good reason. I really enjoyed it and gobbled this 1100 page novel up within 2 weeks. If it takes the next reader a bit longer to read the book it'll be a time investment well worth it.

http://dannyreviews.com/h/Kristin_Lavransdatter.html (http://dannyreviews.com/h/Kristin_Lavransdatter.html)
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on January 16, 2015, 08:50:18 AM
nothing of interest.
Anthoney Ritches series of books, started as I was bored and carried on.
I will then stretch my brain to something more trying.
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Post by: xtopave on January 16, 2015, 01:17:51 PM
The Martian by Andy Weir.

Brilliant.

I know about it bc I've read it's being made into a film (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3659388/?ref_=nm_flmg_prd_10).
I've just read his short story The Egg. It starts with You were on your way home when you died. It was a car accident. Nothing particularly remarkable, but fatal nonetheless.
LOL, I always say: He/She died of something unimportant.
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Post by: smokester on January 16, 2015, 03:30:43 PM
The Martian first line:

Spoiler (hover to show)

A bit like Beagle 2.
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Post by: Nobby on January 16, 2015, 04:03:24 PM
Just watched several versions of 'The/An Egg'
 :-\
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Post by: tarascon on January 16, 2015, 09:16:21 PM
The Martian last line:

Spoiler (hover to show)


Around the middle he wonders to himself:

Spoiler (hover to show)
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on January 16, 2015, 10:28:32 PM
I saw that movie.  It was pretty bad if memory serves, except for one scene where he eats crawfish.
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Post by: smokester on January 17, 2015, 12:37:17 PM
Spoiler (hover to show)

It probably didn't say "bent" when you wrote it.
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Post by: tarascon on February 02, 2015, 07:15:05 AM
My Tiny Life by Julian Dibbell. This has been a tough book to find. I've known about it for years and have read one of his other books about life in a virtual community (Play Money). I sort of know Mr. D and not because I inhabit the same virtual space(s) that he does. I knew his mother (who passed due to cancer a number of years ago) and am friends with his sister.

http://www.juliandibbell.com/mytinylife/tinyspiel.html (http://www.juliandibbell.com/mytinylife/tinyspiel.html)
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Post by: tarascon on March 18, 2015, 01:47:54 PM
A rather shameless bump.

Reading Talking Music by Duckworth: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/306070.Talking_Music (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/306070.Talking_Music)

And next up:

On Some Faraway Beach ( a newish bio/analysis of Brian Eno): http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18869115-on-some-faraway-beach (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18869115-on-some-faraway-beach)

and: Records Ruin the Landscape by Grubb: http://pitchfork.com/features/paper-trail/9370-records-ruin-the-landscape/ (http://pitchfork.com/features/paper-trail/9370-records-ruin-the-landscape/)
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Post by: Nobby on March 18, 2015, 01:57:31 PM
Just read "All You Zombies" by Robert A Heinlein (only 14 pages)
the basis for the Film "Predestination"
Title: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: smokester on March 18, 2015, 03:32:59 PM
I read Jane Eyre to my daughter recently which was... interesting.

Although I was already familiar with the story (seen the film), I'm not sure I actually liked it. I mean, there are so many chance  coincidences that happen to her it's like there were only 10 people living in the entire country.

 
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on March 19, 2015, 12:49:13 AM
 ::) prefer dickens and I'm not a classic book lover, period drama doesn't always transfer into the modern world.

4 days in June - Iain Gale.  A interesting enjoyable read

"A remarkable debut novel, ‘Four Days in June’ is an imaginative but accurate reconstruction of five men – all real figures – five points of view, and four days of one of the world's most famous battles.

Four days in June, 1815. Five men, three armies, on the fields of Waterloo. A battle for honour, glory, civilisation. And two great leaders, Napoleon and Wellington, in direct confrontation for the first time, to take their nations to victory."  Amazon
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Post by: xtopave on March 19, 2015, 05:01:44 AM
I read Jane Eyre to my daughter recently which was... interesting.

Although I was already familiar with the story (seen the film), I'm not sure I actually liked it. I mean, there are so many chance  coincidences that happen to her it's like there were only 10 people living in the entire country.

Even when I must've read it when I was about 12 yrs old I never fail to picture Rochester as Ciarán Hinds. Damned movies!!
My view of the book now, at this mature old age: After the botched wedding Jane should have turned her relationship with Rochester into this:
Spoiler (hover to show)
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on March 20, 2015, 06:31:38 PM
Ha!  I must confess.  I've never read it.  Have seen a couple of film versions.

I like Anthony Trollope and Balzac, both have a great black humor to their books and a critical perspective on human nature.

I'm flying through Dune.
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Post by: tarascon on March 21, 2015, 04:26:23 AM
^ 6, is that your first time through?
Enjoy!  :)
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on March 21, 2015, 08:13:36 AM
Yes.  It's not brilliant, but pretty good.  I'm 3/4 done.  Now have bluebooks to grade so no fun for a couple days.
Title: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: tarascon on April 15, 2015, 07:35:47 AM
  Just finished reading Time and Western Man (1927) by Wyndham Lewis--a shambling brick of a book. Lewis criticizes the failure of Modernism--particularly the "ruffian" influence of Henri Bergson and his Time Theory upon the contemporary literature of the post-war period. He does this in a rather vituperative fashion and one suspects he protests too much... as only an apostate to the faith could. Lewis also takes considerable time exhorting the "congenital idiocy" of Oswald Spengler (and he's largely correct in this). The entirety of the book is too, too much but I persevered with gritted teeth and rolling eyes so that I might put the project behind me and claim that I'd actually read the thing.
  The most worthwhile section of the book has to be the first part wherein Lewis slams Ezra Pound for being a talentless parasite (he was) and does a nice job--coherent in its brevity--of some fresh insights into the writing of Gertrude Stein (comparing her work to the style of Thomas Nashe and also comparing Stein's "little child's chatter" to novels like Gentlemen Prefer Blondes of Anita Loos). And the chapter "An Analysis of the Mind of James Joyce" is excellent and something I doubt that many contemporary Joyce scholars have read; or, if they have, it's probably something they'd rather keep secret.
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on April 16, 2015, 11:43:13 PM
Not everything by Pound sucked.  He was an bottom, though.

Congrats on plowing through that.  I'm reading the Aeneid, the Fitzgerald translation.  I'm about 1/3 of the way through.  Poor Dido.

Someone was getting rid of this book so I picked it up thinking I might eventually read it.  I surprised myself.  It's pretty good.  I don't usually sit down with novel sized epic verse, although I read most of the Greek tragedies and several works by Aristophanes.  But drama is different.

Gotta go take this marmalade out of the hot water bath.   I made seville orange and it's about done.  It took hours and hours.  It had better set up right or I'll shoot myself.
Title: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: tarascon on April 17, 2015, 06:20:50 AM
Yes, poor Dido indeed. But she wasn't the only woman similarly treated by the Greek heroes (as I'm sure you know); Odysseus, Jason, Agamemnon, Theseus... pretty much all of them were utter cads.
Title: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on April 17, 2015, 03:03:16 PM
This misogyny wasn't limited to the Greeks.

Try Sir Walter Scott's Kenilworth.  Whoa.  Talk about a protagonist destined for the Don'tDateHimGirl.com website... brrrr!!
Title: Re: Book Club & Parchments
Post by: tarascon on April 18, 2015, 09:27:29 AM
And you're correct about Pound--he did write a few nice pieces. But he was an abysmal personality who glommed onto his more talented cronies. There's a reson he isn't really read or studied these days.

Currently reading The Long Ships by Frans Bengtsson.
http://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2010/06/28/the-fly-leaf-the-long-ships/ (http://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2010/06/28/the-fly-leaf-the-long-ships/)
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on June 20, 2015, 12:22:13 AM
Reading - Aldous Leonard Huxley - Island
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Post by: tarascon on June 20, 2015, 01:01:05 AM
Blake by Peter Ackroyd
http://www.eclectica.org/v1n1/reviews/skea_blake.html

and

Seven Types of Ambiguity by William Empson
Not a valid vimeo URL
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Post by: tarascon on June 30, 2015, 07:24:22 AM
The Bone Clocks by David Mitchell just finished... am going back to How Milton Works by S. Fish.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: goldshirt*9 on June 30, 2015, 10:41:36 AM
The Paper Magician - Charlie N. Holmberg
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on July 03, 2015, 12:14:35 AM
Just finished Euripides' Orestes.  What a strange play.  It promises to be the usual tragic bloodbath and then a god intervenes and everything turns out ok.  Geez.
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Post by: tarascon on July 03, 2015, 06:36:10 AM
deus ex machina. whose translation?
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on July 03, 2015, 01:15:15 PM
Peck & Nisetich  (Oxford Univ. Press, 1995)  Thank you piratebay
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Post by: tarascon on July 05, 2015, 10:00:56 AM
So... I live in a college town east of Los Angeles and every Sunday morning there's a street market which sells fruit, vegetables, knickknacks and a used book stall.
I just bought:

1. Situation: Documents of Contemporary Art, ed. C. Doherty
2. William Tyndale: A Biography by D. Daniel
3. Trozas by B. Traven
4. The Cheese and the Worms by C. Ginzberg

Not a bad haul for $3

https://jhupbooks.press.jhu.edu/content/cheese-and-worms
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on July 06, 2015, 12:40:29 AM
1. Situation: Documents of Contemporary Art, ed. C. Doherty
2. William Tyndale: A Biography by D. Daniel
3. Trozas by B. Traven
4. The Cheese and the Worms by C. Ginzberg

Your taste in litrature is eclestic.

I have finally obtained the last two books in the "Mythago Wood" series by Robert Holdstock.
So I savouring these.
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Post by: tarascon on July 12, 2015, 07:44:18 AM
Reading The Vorrh. Brian Catling.
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/may/20/the-vorrh-b-catling-review-michael-moorcock
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Post by: tarascon on July 20, 2015, 02:50:15 PM
Now reading Mother of Eden by Chris Beckett.

And my shipment of two books were waiting for me when I came home from work:

1. Finn and Hengest by Tolkien.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/674474.Finn_and_Hengest

2. The Play Called Corpus Christi by V.A. Kolve.
https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Play_Called_Corpus_Christi.html?id=iweoAAAAIAAJ

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Post by: goldshirt*9 on July 21, 2015, 12:09:15 AM
slow going atm for me.
Lavondyss - Robert Holdstock
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Post by: Beatrix on July 25, 2015, 01:12:23 PM
Slowly is the word for my reading as of late.  Been just thumbing through "A Dictionary of ENGLISH LITERATURE" and going with whatever I find on the page I turn to.  I've been doing much internet googling on ancient meanings, sayings, meanings of numbers, and symbols.  It gets you digging to that special place that reminds you of the weird side of youtube. 

Also, Aristotle and the Aardvark go to Washington starts out with a kick.  Much easier to concept that Thomas Hobbes's Leviathan.
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Post by: tarascon on July 28, 2015, 10:16:59 PM
^ Sounds like fun, Bea.  :)

William Tyndale: A Biography by D. Daniel

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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on July 29, 2015, 06:26:11 AM
Philip K richard, The Divine Invasion.

A novel from the 1980's containing indications of his growing interest in theology.
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Post by: tarascon on July 29, 2015, 06:45:59 AM
Did you read Valis yet? Not necessary because the trilogy is only thematic...  :)
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on July 29, 2015, 12:33:46 PM
No.  There was a reference to VALIS early on, and I wondered if there was a sequence.  I had d/l ed a large cache of his novels and just picked this one at random. 

I'm about half way through Divine Invasion.  guess I should read VALIS next.
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Post by: tarascon on July 29, 2015, 01:29:23 PM
I'm about half way through Divine Invasion.  guess I should read VALIS next.

It's fun, Valis is, but not required. Like I mentioned, the trilogy is only related by the theme (and doesn't feature the same cast) though Valis does seem to be richard's intended Statement of Purpose for his future work if he hadn't died suddenly.
My three favorite novels of his are:
1. The Man in the High Castle
2. A Scanner Darkly
3. The Transmigration of Timothy Archer (which is the third and last of the "Valis trilogy")
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on July 30, 2015, 12:35:28 AM
Well, I've read The Man in the High Castle (which is currently the subject of a brilliant Amazon.com production, to my amazement) a couple times, and it got better with each read.  I re-read the Transmigration a couple months back, after an interval of about 20 years and was amazed at how many familiar local haunts in Berkeley were mentioned on the second reading.  Saw the film, A Scanner Darkly, but never read it.

His death from stroke at an early age was a real loss to literature in my opinion.  He's always been one of my favorite sci-fi authors.  It is strange to live where he once did and to pick up on so many local references in his books.
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Post by: tarascon on July 30, 2015, 12:56:54 AM
Well, I've read The Man in the High Castle (which is currently the subject of a brilliant Amazon.com production, to my amazement)...

Really? A movie?

His death from stroke at an early age was a real loss to literature in my opinion.  He's always been one of my favorite sci-fi authors.  It is strange to live where he once did and to pick up on so many local references in his books.

Like this man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Pike who PKD knew and wrote about (The Transmigration...).
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on July 30, 2015, 01:17:27 AM
It's a miniseries.  available here.  I've only seen the first episode, but it was quite good, to my delight.

h**p://sur.ly/o/300mbfilms.co/AA000014



<Edited to break the link. Just in case. We don't want to attract unwanted spiders.>
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Post by: Beatrix on August 03, 2015, 02:12:08 PM
I really liked the movie, A Scanner Darkly.  The original filming and animation was a mind bend.  I love mind bends.
My parents gave me a catholic bible recently.  I actually immediately wanted to start in the index.
This brought me to Leviticus, which was really interesting. 
I may just start at Genesis and work my way through, but I do love reading dictionaries and indexes, and books that define and organize. 
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on August 05, 2015, 12:51:52 AM
You might check out advent.org.  It's basically the Catholic Encyclopedia, a monumental reference work that in its print version was about as large as the Encyclopedia Britannica.   The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church is also a good reference.  I am a sucker for good reference books.  Strange how there's never quite enough shelf space for all of them.
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Post by: Beatrix on August 07, 2015, 09:13:23 PM
advent.org

Excellent Lady Six, thank you very much.

The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church, sounds like something for the whole family :  ) It's great help and exciting to have good references and something to share with my parents.

Let me know some of your favorite good reference books, I'd make use of the favor.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on August 10, 2015, 09:24:12 PM
If your family is Catholic, or you have an interest in religious art, you might check out some of the Dictionaries or Lives of the Saints (Butler's Lives of the Saints, Jacobus da Voragine's The Golden Legend).  Christianity has a great folkloric tradition with trials, tribulations and adventures of Saints and Martyrs.  It makes for great reading.

I also love the Oxford Companion to Classical Literature (Harvey, nice and concise guide to classical mythology and Greek and Roman deities).
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Post by: tarascon on August 11, 2015, 06:48:27 AM
^ Speaking of which, I'm reading Queen of Scots by John Guy. The beheading was a botch job... poor woman.

http://www.audible.com/pd/Bios-Memoirs/Queen-of-Scots-Audiobook/B002V1PL3W?source_code=GPAGBSH0508140001&amp;mkwid=suZ9FAJIp_dc&amp;pkw=&amp;pmt=&amp;pcrid=69445033260
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Post by: drago6650 on August 31, 2015, 10:49:58 AM
Currently reading KP: The Autobiography by Kevin Pietersen MBE

The fascinating life story of professional cricketer Kevin Pietersen, MBE, from his childhood in South Africa to his recent experiences as one of the leading lights in the world of international cricket.

(http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s449/drago6650/51L45b6f4SL__SX35__zpsyn9ks3yl.jpg) (http://s1052.photobucket.com/user/drago6650/media/51L45b6f4SL__SX35__zpsyn9ks3yl.jpg.html)

Kevin was dropped from the England squad in February of this year, seemingly calling time on an international career that began nearly ten years earlier. The decision puzzled many observers - although the England team had failed miserably in the Ashes tour of 2013-14, Kevin was the tourists' leading run scorer across the series, and he remains the country's highest run scorer of all time across all formats of the game.

Looking to obtain a copy of Field of Shadows: The English Cricket Tour of Nazi Germany 1937

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51zi7-U14FL._SX315_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51zi7-U14FL._SX315_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)

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Post by: goldshirt*9 on September 05, 2015, 12:28:47 AM
ATM I am stuck, still reading Lavondyss but not enjoying it  :(
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: tarascon on September 06, 2015, 07:38:02 AM
I seem to be on a theme right now:

The last week I've read...

Finn and Hengest. A series of lectures by Tolkien.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/674474.Finn_and_Hengest

Prehistoric Britain by Jacquetta Hawkes
You'll notice the price of this paperback; I bought my 1940 edition for a dollar a few months ago. http://www.amazon.com/Prehistoric-Britain-Jacquetta-Christopher-Hawkes/dp/B00635TFIO

Stonehenge of the Kings by Patrick Crampton.
http://www.amazon.com/Stonehenge-Kings-Patrick-Crampton/dp/B001UB25TW

... and next plan to reread The Pagan Religions of the Ancient British Isles by Ronald Hutton which I first read back in the 90's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pagan_Religions_of_the_Ancient_British_Isles
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Post by: xtopave on September 06, 2015, 10:00:38 AM
... and next plan to reread The Pagan Religions of the Ancient British Isles by Ronald Hutton which I first read back in the 90's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pagan_Religions_of_the_Ancient_British_Isles

This looks interesting.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: smokester on September 06, 2015, 03:12:17 PM
Currently reading KP: The Autobiography by Kevin Pietersen MBE


He plays for the St Lucia Zouks in the CPL now.  I missed him this year as I went a week later than usual and, by that time, the league had ended.

Next year, though....
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Post by: drago6650 on September 08, 2015, 02:27:01 PM
I think he has been badly done too....we should be playing our best players.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: drago6650 on September 09, 2015, 04:19:28 PM
With the team we have now more individuals then team ethics and the new direction of go out and play your own game I think he will fit back in nicely he is an exciting player to watch and pulls the public in. Through the years there have been players who were not team players but unlike KP kept their mouths shut so got away with it, Geoff Boycott to name one after reading his Autobiography I thought what a selfish scallywag you were.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: smokester on September 25, 2015, 04:02:36 PM
....Geoff Boycott to name one after reading his Autobiography I thought what a selfish scallywag you were.

Does he mention knocking his missus about in his book? No matter how much I admire his cricketing career, the spectre of domestic abuse always reduces him to being a tosser.
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Post by: tarascon on October 20, 2015, 12:31:55 PM
Here's a list of books I ordered from Amazon last week... if anyone hears me complain about not having money to eat, please slap me upside my head.

1. Grimm's Fairy Tales
2. How Joyce Wrote Finnegans Wake by Luca Crispi & Sam Slote
3. Anglo-Saxon Community in J.R.R. Tolkien's the Lord of the Rings by Deborah Higgens
4. The Monsters and the Critics: And Other Essays by J.R.R. Tolkien
5. Beowulf and Other Stories: A New Introduction to Old English, Old Icelandic and Anglo-Norman Literatures by Joe Allard, Richard North
6. Summa Technologiae by Stanislaw Lem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summa_Technologiae (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summa_Technologiae)
7. A Stanislaw Lem Reader by Peter Swirski, ed.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on October 23, 2015, 01:05:13 AM
Daughter has just purchased Grimm's fairy tale from Hay on Wye and then got Dracula for free 8)
Hope it doesnt scare her  ;D ;D
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Post by: tarascon on November 22, 2015, 11:22:05 AM
1. Tristan and Isolde: A Casebook, ed. by Joan Grimbert
2. Chaucer and Langland: The Antagonistic Tradition by John M. Bowers
http://undpress.nd.edu/books/P01140 (http://undpress.nd.edu/books/P01140)

To repeat:
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on November 25, 2015, 12:25:37 AM
Ashamed to state I am reading
Simon Scarrow - The Eagles Conquest. Am easy and lazy read.
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on November 30, 2015, 12:52:22 AM
Read HP Lovecraft:  Call of Chulthulu and Cats of Ulthar.
Now:  Harry Harrison, The Stainless Steel Rat.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: goldshirt*9 on December 13, 2015, 01:22:07 PM
Have listen to HP.Lovecraft audiobooks. Dark
What is the stainless steel rat like ?

Anyone know a book about the hierarchy of angels ????
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on December 13, 2015, 09:23:46 PM
Have listen to HP.Lovecraft audiobooks. Dark
What is the stainless steel rat like ?

Anyone know a book about the hierarchy of angels ????

Stainless Steel Rat reads like a hard boiled detective novel.  Kind of like Raymond Chandler or Dashiell Hammett, except in the future, and he's after technologically advanced criminals.

Hierarchy of angels?  Fiction or non?  Here's the entry, including a paragraph on the hierarchy in the online Catholic Encyclopedia.  http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01476d.htm (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01476d.htm)
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Post by: tarascon on December 14, 2015, 07:38:46 AM
Melville's Bibles by Ilana Pardes

http://www.ucpress.edu/book.php?isbn=9780520254558 (http://www.ucpress.edu/book.php?isbn=9780520254558)

and

Voice of the Fire by Alan Moore

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/250295.Voice_of_the_Fire (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/250295.Voice_of_the_Fire)
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Post by: smokester on December 15, 2015, 07:59:01 AM

Anyone know a book about the hierarchy of angels ????

You could ask christ, but I'm pretty sure little ones are at the bottom and big ones are up top.
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Post by: dweez on December 15, 2015, 05:13:20 PM
So heaven is an inverted pyramid scheme?!?!
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Post by: smokester on December 16, 2015, 05:00:36 AM
So heaven is an inverted pyramid scheme?!?!

No, because then you'd keep falling off the ladder.
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on December 17, 2015, 08:42:45 PM
The Man in the High Castle (for the 3rd time).

Thanks for the snow storm, Smokes.  I just noticed it at the top of the page.
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Post by: smokester on December 18, 2015, 02:11:05 AM

Thanks for the snow storm, Smokes.  I just noticed it at the top of the page.

PSP kindly knocked it up for a few years back. Now all I need is some Christmas lights.
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on December 29, 2015, 06:08:22 AM
Best of Lester Del Rey.  It seems pretty dated.
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Post by: tarascon on December 29, 2015, 01:03:17 PM
Read The Voice of the Fire by Alan Moore. Very good.
And also rereading The American Jeremiad by Sacvan Bercovitch.
http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1137791860?book_show_action=true&from_review_page=1
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Post by: tarascon on January 06, 2016, 06:12:32 AM
Wild Frenchmen and Frenchified Indians by Sophie White.
Just wrapped up The Circle by Dave Eggers & The Other in Jewish Thought and History, L Silberstein, ed.

http://www.upenn.edu/pennpress/book/15041.html
https://searchworks.stanford.edu/view/2925047
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Circle_%28Eggers_novel%29
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on January 07, 2016, 12:29:55 AM
As of late, I've become pretty impatient with poorly written books or those that don't seem to offer much.  I sort of got the idea with Thucydides, and now can't bring myself to slog through the rest of it.  Lester Del Rey is like a dessert that isn't delicious enough to justify the calorie consumption.  So it's on to something else.
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Post by: tarascon on April 06, 2016, 06:23:30 PM

This one's fun for the likes of myself since he collects so many of the "horror" and fantasy books I read as a teenager (at that time Ballantine PB's reprinted so much that had been lost in the decades before--and the decades since). I grew up on the fictions of Lord Dunsany, M. P. Shiel, Arthur Machen, William Morris, William Hope Hodgson, Walter de la Mare... and David Lindsay (what he says about A Voyage to Arcturus is exactly how I felt after I'd read it). The curious thing is that I just finished Songs of a Dead Dreamer and Grimscribe by Thomas Ligotti (who I'd never heard of a week ago) and he mentions him in passing. *
>> Warning: this clip is for weird tales & fantasy geeks only.

And for lovers of material books:



* http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24611567-songs-of-a-dead-dreamer-and-grimscribe (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24611567-songs-of-a-dead-dreamer-and-grimscribe)

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Post by: tarascon on April 07, 2016, 08:38:15 AM
Ligotti is an "interesting" writer (the word interesting being code for either a Victorian penny dreadful perversity or an hyper-realistic Lovecraftian atmospheric claustrophobia; the reader's preference being the key to which). Ligotti writes in a very dense, verbose style which would certainly be anathema to folks used to the likes of S. King and his contemporary ilk. Again, the reader's taste being operational. He has an ability to create an intriguing setting controlled by mad narrators and tends to return again and again--like the proverbial hound to its emesis [ἔμετος]--to particular obsessional imagery which makes one wonder about Mr. Ligotti's own psyche.  The tales are well wrought which, unfortunately, do not come to a satisfying denouement; out of the two collections I read, perhaps three stories had what I felt to be a fulfilling conclusion.
So...

On another note, one wonders why Mr. Poling decided to post his rant on Goodreads instead of, say, the I hate This Guy site?
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on April 07, 2016, 11:12:14 AM
I loved that rotten review.  It reminds me of a really bad review trashing a Harold Robbins novel from the NY Times book review some time in the early 1990's.  It was hilarious.  I don't think this was it, but it gives you the basic idea.  http://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/07/books/bad-smut.html (http://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/07/books/bad-smut.html)

I'm ploughing though Imperial San Francisco right now (Gray Brechin).  It's pretty engaging.  It's a real page turner, and as easy to read as a novel, although it's non fiction.
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Post by: xtopave on April 07, 2016, 11:51:21 AM
I loved that rotten review.

Me too. Let's keep it before christ makes it disappear:

I don't often read book reviews, but this one tickled me:

Quote from: Jack Poling (A random reviewer on GoodReads)
Where to begin? Have you ever read a book so awful that you hated it? A book that despite being only 300 some odd pages took you weeks to read? A book that, after a while, made you hate not only this book, but the act of reading itself? After 300 pages of this garbage I think I not only hate reading, but have been rendered illiterate. Thanks Thomas Ligotti! Now I can't read! I'm only able to type this by using rage telepathy. Now I'm going to saw off my own head with the plastic cutlery from my KFC dinner and kick my own head off my back porch like a soccer ball. I hope you are happy Mr. Ligotti, you scallywag! I hope somebody kicks you square in the balls.

I guess that not everyone is enamoured of Mr Ligotti!

I knew I've heard Thomas Ligotti's name before! Some people say his work has been plagiarized in True Detective (http://lovecraftzine.com/2014/08/04/did-the-writer-of-true-detective-plagiarize-thomas-ligotti-and-others/).



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Post by: tarascon on April 07, 2016, 02:07:01 PM
I knew I've heard Thomas Ligotti's name before! Some people say his work has been plagiarized in True Detective (http://lovecraftzine.com/2014/08/04/did-the-writer-of-true-detective-plagiarize-thomas-ligotti-and-others/).

If a dark and joyless enclosed (yet infinite) universe peopled by unlikable sociopaths defines True Detective--which I believe it does--then, yes, one could say Ligotti has indeed been plagiarized. But, conversely, there is no shortage of deranged and/or perverse weltanschauung coming out of Hollywood.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on May 27, 2016, 12:08:40 AM
The Buried Giant   by Kazuo Ishiguro

a rare find i stumbled across, enjoying this novel a lot
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on June 02, 2016, 01:53:24 AM
I read his Remains of the Day, as I picked it up in the airport store on the way to Brasil.  I got there and spent a rainy national holiday in my hotel room with little to do but read everything I had.  I read every article in the Economist and the New Yorker and then vacuumed my way through the Ishiguro.  It was enjoyable, especially as I'd recently seen the movie with Anthony Hopkins and Emma Thompson.  I also plowed through Gone with the Wind, a worm eaten edition that I'd picked up at Livraria Kosmos in Rio de Janeiro.  It was about 1100 pages.  There were films at nearby cinemas, but sadly even the American ones were dubbed into Portuguese (which I was still learning).  Instinto Selvagem (Basic Instinct) was in the theatres, but I didn't think I'd get it, so I stayed inside for a marathon reading session.  That, and the nightly telenovelas, kept me occupied.
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on June 02, 2016, 12:49:15 PM
Basic Instinct is probably best watched with the sound off anyway, so you wouldn't have missed much.
Having seen it in English on my return, I tend to concur with your assessment.

I'm in a classics reading group, mostly Greek literature, working our way through the tragedies, histories, etc.  We read Euripides' Andromache last night and I really enjoyed it.  Some of these plays would make perfect modern day telenovelas or soap operas (although the latter form in the U.S. appears to be dwindling).
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Post by: xtopave on June 03, 2016, 11:32:20 AM
That, and the nightly telenovelas, kept me occupied.

The novela das nove and futebol can keep cariocas indoor. Rain can't.
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Post by: tarascon on August 10, 2016, 05:27:02 PM
Chaos Imagined: Literature, Art, Science. By Martin Meisel
http://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-231-16632-4 (http://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-231-16632-4)

A fat book about cultural attempts to incorporate "chaos" in a work, Meisel begins by doing a concise job of introducing the reader to contemporary Chaos theory--particularly deterministic chaotic systems--which he clarifies by mentioning its initial misnomer that causes most people to think of disorder and confusion. He distinguishes the overlap (and differences) between chaos and complexity theory; chaotic systems not as complicated combinations of multiple parts but the generation of seemingly random behavior from the iteration of a simple rule... chaotic in a very precise mathematical sense. Complexity is the generation of collective dynamical behavior from simple interactions between large numbers of parts. There is a difference. From there he discusses the concepts of nothingness, void, and space as its used in mythology, theology and various world poetry before introducing the reader to the Greek atomists. The middleman between these guys and the physics of the early 20th century being the Roman Lucretius. It's fun stuff if only because I'd read most of the material Meisel presents. At some point he'll equate this all to art and literature if he doesn't run out of steam. I'd read a few books like this before (https://books.google.com/books/about/Joyce_Chaos_and_Complexity.html?id=6Jctoxe6lawC (https://books.google.com/books/about/Joyce_Chaos_and_Complexity.html?id=6Jctoxe6lawC), for example) and I'm actually excited to see if and how he does a better job than others. I expect he will.
I'm now around page 100 and mathematics has been the focus for the last dozen pages or so. Unfortunately, he doesn't say much about the mathematics/philosophy of the Babylonians, the Egyptians... nor that of the vedic culture(s), though he does cite them here and there. As for the Pythagoreans and the Nile boundary, I suspect they were right to hold irrational numbers in dread because where the space (i.e., chaos and void) between rational numbers should be there is only one long continuous stream and boundary conditions don't seem to apply. Wear rubber boots.

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/shaxper/miss-shaped_zpswvhv7xpg.jpg)
Huh?

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Post by: Beatrix on August 10, 2016, 11:27:26 PM
Thank you t
Trying to find a PDF....
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Post by: Nobby on October 19, 2016, 11:44:09 AM
The Girl With All The Gifts - M R Carey
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on October 19, 2016, 02:56:22 PM
The Girl With All The Gifts - M R Carey
any good ?

finished
The Longest Kill: The Story of Maverick 41, One of the World's Greatest Snipers - Craig Harrison
Sniper One: The Blistering True Story of a British Battle Group Under Siege - Sgt. Dan Mills
needed something different. ???

Next I will be reading
The Man who would be King - Rudyard Kipling

Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: goldshirt*9 on February 07, 2017, 01:40:09 AM
Level Zero Heroes - MICHAEL GOLEMBESKY.  riveting, fast paced account of Marine Operators in combat in Afghanistan. I must swap my genre.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on May 13, 2017, 12:33:33 AM
back to the Anthony riches Empire series. didn't realise book 8+9 had been released  :)
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on May 21, 2017, 09:10:41 AM
Working my way through the Iliad.  Agamemnon seems like an bottom and Achilles is still really pissed (in the American sense).
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on May 22, 2017, 11:47:44 AM
Working my way through the Iliad.  Agamemnon seems like an bottom and Achilles is still really pissed (in the American sense).

hard reading  8)
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on August 18, 2017, 09:50:41 AM
Dagger 22 - Michael Golembesky second and last I would guess
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on October 21, 2017, 12:19:03 AM
Jeff VanderMeer. the southern reach trilogy  (made into a film) interesting read
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on November 04, 2018, 12:22:49 AM
Re start as a lot of books going into the Moive post.

Atm I am reading
Once A Pilgrim by James Deegan.
Always good to read something you dont normally look at, For a first book I would put it on par with
Patriot Games.Whereas in Patriot games Jack R bumbles along comes out on top, Carr in Once a Pilgrim  who is the main character knows what he wishes to achieve and gets it done with a passion.
Based from the Northern Ireland troubles to modern day, enjoyed
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Post by: 8ullfrog on November 04, 2018, 04:11:24 AM
Ah, but bumbly Jack Ryan is a bit of a mask, he can be as scary, if not scarier than John Clark in the fact that he keeps his worse natures tightly wound. When he goes off, he gets dangerous.

Hell, He never even saw Combat, he was a baby officer, his helo hit the drink UPSIDE DOWN and I believe he was the sole survivor. The movies always make it some crappy RPG attack when the books made it so much scarier. Hell, there are parts in Red October where they just throw out survival times like "Yeah, anything goes wrong? suuuper dead".


So this crippled marine, who never actually got to serve in uniform, DESTROYS the rather stupid terrorists in Pat Games. I also hate how they always change this, it's crazy that he saved the friggin heir to the throne while jogging around like a meathead.


Surviving terrorists bide their time and mope like jackasses, while Jack Ryan's response is "That was weird". and he gets back to his life. He's more annoyed by the Knighting than being shot.


They mess with his wife, he unleashes the monster he can be. They shoot up his house, he kills more of them.


It's like a horror movie, they keep trying to kill him, and they end up dying. It's almost like Tucker and dale vs. evil.


This of course, makes the TV show even less impressive. Jack Ryan is a man who wants to be a nerd, but wrote his dissertation on making critical decisions under imminent threat. Of course, Captain Ramius was not impressed.


Man, it is a shame that Clancy is dead, he wrote Competency Porn at a level that few can hit.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: dweez on November 11, 2018, 03:17:34 PM
Your conclusions were all wrong, 8ullfrog.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: goldshirt*9 on November 12, 2018, 08:04:38 AM
Your conclusions were all wrong, 8ullfrog.
welcome back, I thought you had vanished into the Matrix
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: goldshirt*9 on November 18, 2018, 05:00:50 AM
Now reading The Falcon of Sparta by Conn Iggulden, loved his Emperor books but have found this a little under whelming. Will trudge on and see if it  improves 
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on November 23, 2018, 06:24:35 AM
Ann Leckie's Ancillary Justice was good, and it's the first book in a trilogy, so I'm on to book 2:  Ancillary Sword.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: goldshirt*9 on November 23, 2018, 11:32:25 PM
Ann Leckie's Ancillary Justice was good, and it's the first book in a trilogy, so I'm on to book 2:  Ancillary Sword.

looks interesting may have to get  :D
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on November 23, 2018, 11:39:29 PM
I'm pretty sure it got several awards, a Hugo, Arthur C. Clarke, etc.  Leckie lives in St. Louis, MO.  I found that surprising.  I guess she had worked as an editor before she became an author.  I like her writing.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: dweez on November 29, 2018, 05:07:56 PM
welcome back, I thought you had vanished into the Matrix

Thanks goldie. I tried taking the blue pill but got kicked out of Matrix for mocking Mr. Anderson.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: goldshirt*9 on November 30, 2018, 05:11:59 AM
Thanks goldie. I tried taking the blue pill but got kicked out of Matrix for mocking Mr. Anderson.
  ;D ;D ;D ;D

reading The Sheer Nerve   Rob Lofhouse
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 8ullfrog on December 22, 2018, 02:59:25 AM
I knew that Sam Clemens took his pen name from boat depth measurements.


I did NOT know that "Mark Twain" Meant Two Fathoms.

Did Sam Clemens seriously make his Pen Name the Old Tymey equivalent of DEEZ NUTS?
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: smokester on September 27, 2019, 02:54:49 PM
I have 9 electrician books - from principle to regulations - to wade through before the 28th of Oct. Some of them read like the bible so I'm not exactly sure how I'm going to manage it.

I'll start tomorrow as I'm knacked tonight.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on September 27, 2019, 05:10:32 PM
I have several books going at once, one for a book group I belong to dedicated to Greek and Roman classics, one is just for fun and the last one is for a class.

Herodotus:  Histories
Paul Scott:  The Jewel in the Crown
Gleim Enrolled Agent Prep Part 1:  Individual Taxes.

Herodotus can be tedious and then vastly entertaining.  Scott is just fun, with the occasional slow descriptive passage like a speed bump in an otherwise engaging story.  The Gleim makes my eyes glaze over on occasion, so I need all the relief I can get.  There are occasional fun tidbits that are good for bringing up when conversation gets slow, like:  "did you know that even if you get divorced you can still claim your in laws as dependents for tax purposes?"
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: smokester on September 30, 2019, 02:39:19 PM
Just wing it - how hard can it be?

Judging by most electricians that I employ, not very.

You can get in trouble for that if they are dead though.

You can get in trouble with the tax office here for breathing too much air.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 8ullfrog on September 30, 2019, 05:46:38 PM
Be careful not to end up conscripted into the Adeptus Mechanicus! Or get assimilated by Borg. Both are unlikely, but be on guard.

I have on paper official findings from the government that I am of low intelligence. I try not to let it hold me back. It is astounding how many institutions operate on the system of "WHY YOU NOT HAVE MONEY?". Like, because?

Also, everything is too expensive. My building just hit us with the maximum rent increase allowable by law. Because in January, that gets nerfed by the Governor.
 
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on September 30, 2019, 09:14:50 PM
8ully, I find it comical that someone used an arbitrary yardstick to determine your IQ.  Those tests are basically a joke.  In my experience, there's so many different kinds of intelligence that it's not possible to devise a test that adequately measures the odd varieties that might present themselves in a single individual.  I haven't found you particularly lacking from what you post on here.

smokes, I share your enthusiasm for the tedium of poring over technical manuals in order to qualify for some kind of professional license.  Even if you like the work, the tasks of memorization and spewing out the data for tests are far from fun.  Yeah.  There's plenty of ways to get in to trouble over taxes.  So far, they've not taxed the air, but one thing you'll enjoy is the "soda tax" on carbonated beverages here so as to discourage young people from drinking sugary soft drinks.  I get pissed off because they tax unflavored seltzer:  i.e. carbonated tap water without any additives.  It seems an overreach to me, but that's the least of our troubles.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 8ullfrog on September 30, 2019, 09:26:16 PM
I just don't like the term sugary drinks. I get why they did it, but it's like people saying supper, I just want to throat strike like an 80's van damme baddie.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: smokester on October 01, 2019, 02:09:09 AM
So far, they've not taxed the air, but one thing you'll enjoy is the "soda tax" on carbonated beverages here ....

Does that count for Lager too?

In Alabama they are all "cola". Regardless of flavour. "Want a cola?" - "Yup" - "RC, Mountain Dew, A&W or ...?"

You really are a polyglot. Aren't you?..
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 8ullfrog on October 01, 2019, 02:11:53 AM
In Texas it's all coke. And they mean Dr Pepper. It's an ugly regionalism.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on October 01, 2019, 10:50:03 AM
In some places, it's just "pop."  Like your dad.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: goldshirt*9 on October 02, 2019, 12:25:38 AM
only drink diet coke myself, prefer pepsi max or cheap ALdi max
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: dweez on October 02, 2019, 07:15:53 PM
I know that in Indiana, Texas, and Nevada (maybe New Mexico), any carbonated beverage is "coke".

You want a coke?
Sure.
What kind?
Hmm, ginger ale.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: Beatrix on December 17, 2019, 03:22:15 PM
We dont "coke" dweez.  ;)  It's like in that movie "pawn shop chronicles"  with the two barber shops, half the people soda, half the people pop, and everyone argues about it. 
Arguing in Indiana, that's what we do.

And I'd like to mention that im reading "the death of methuselah"
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: dweez on December 17, 2019, 04:40:16 PM
I grew up in Indiana. Maybe they don't "coke" anymore but that was the norm for a long time.

Good to hear you're hanging in there.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: Beatrix on December 17, 2019, 06:20:52 PM
I've heard it. People just drink pop less, also a contributing factor, I grew up in Illinois then Indiana, and now we are arguing topics ;)
I can hang.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on February 03, 2020, 09:28:17 AM
I'm reading the Three Body Problem by Liu Cixin.  About half way through and I'm getting bored.  The representation of historical characters in the game sequences are sort of lame and superficial, and the rest of the plot development is kind of like watching paint dry.  I'm a patient sort of reader, but this bloated first volume of a trilogy is getting to me.  What is the point of these silly game sequences?  Here's an example of the silliness:  Norbert Wiener is hanging out with Sir Isaac Newton and was described by Newton as fighting off some pirates, and in the next sentence the gaming person, Wang, asks Von Neumann "Why did you have to come to the East to build a computer?"  To which the two (Von Neumann and Newton) reply, "A computer?  A computing machine!  Such a thing exists?"

This, after one of the seminal mathematicians who contributed to modern computer science and the field of cybernetics just finished sacrificing himself to some pirates.  Huh?  This is pretty ridiculous.  If they know who Norbert Wiener is, they should also know that computers exist.  Hell's bells.

Has anyone else read his books?  Have an opinion?  I am actually considering putting it down and giving up.  The general tone is sort of goofy and not very serious.  And this got a Hugo award.  Has science fiction really declined that much?
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on February 04, 2020, 12:51:42 AM
I'm reading this on an ipad.  It naturally splits books into a zillion pages in epub format.  The hardcover edition is 400 pages.  I'm on 466 of 946.  Supposedly, from the summaries I've read, there's another rival civilization involved, but you'd never know it from the hemming and hawing that is going on here.  This is an author desperately in need of a good editor and he didn't get one.

I may slog on a bit more, but I'm not particularly impressed.  It was recommended by someone I met on a gaming forum, but he's not the sharpest pencil in the box, a nice guy, but I don't know that our tastes in literature are coincident.  Oh well.  The Ann Leckie trillogy was decent, I think you may have suggested that, but I have a brain like a sieve sometimes, so I can't remember.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on February 04, 2020, 11:55:52 AM
I haven't read Wheel of Time or anything in that series.

My knowledge of Chinese is limited to a few phrases in Mandarin that I picked up in the dorm, so I can't speak to the translation, but it does seem that the language in the book is often stilted and uses odd syntax in places, which makes me suspect that the translation is not the best.  I read another 100 pages last night before I got tired and reverted to SG1.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: goldshirt*9 on February 04, 2020, 01:17:40 PM
I haven't read Wheel of Time or anything in that series.
I gave up after book 5 ish.
Although started well it soon rambled on and lost all cohesion.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: Beatrix on March 25, 2020, 01:00:57 PM
Actually I've been lazy audio booking for the last six months without a phone. 
Anything on android free audio books apps, greek mythology, fairy tales ect.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on March 25, 2020, 02:32:55 PM
Hi Bea, glad to see you here.  Because of the pandemic, audible is offering free kids' books and many adult classics.  Here:  https://stories.audible.com/start-listen (https://stories.audible.com/start-listen)
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: Beatrix on March 25, 2020, 06:59:36 PM
Thanks Six. 
Glad to be here, have a telephone number again, and everything I need so far. 
I hope you have the same.  I'm sure your canning expertise serves you well.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on March 25, 2020, 08:58:47 PM
It's funny you mention that.  I'm making apple/mint jelly and also a small batch of applesauce tonight.   Someone gave me mint and I had some nice older organic apples that had gotten a little less than crisp so it was into the pot with them.

The applesauce turned out well.  It's so easy to make and you can put up a large batch with very little trouble.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: goldshirt*9 on April 06, 2020, 12:14:53 AM
sounds nice apple and mint
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on April 19, 2020, 06:26:24 PM
Here.  For your reading pleasure is the wonderful, and short, Japanese tale, "The Boy who drew cats."
http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/books/japan/hearn/boydrewcats.html (http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/books/japan/hearn/boydrewcats.html)

Quote
The Boy Who Drew Cats

A LONG, long time ago, in a small country-village in Japan, there lived a poor farmer and his wife, who were very good people. They had a number of children, and found it very hard to feed them all. The elder son was strong enough when only fourteen years old to help his father; and the little girls learned to help their; mother almost as soon as they could walk.

But the youngest child, a little boy, did not seem to be fit for hard work. He was very clever,-cleverer than all his brothers and sisters; but he was quite weak and small, and people said he could never grow very big. So his parents thought it would be better for him to become a priest than to become a farmer. They took him with them to the village-temple one day, and asked the good old priest who lived there, if he would have their little boy for his acolyte, and teach him all that a priest ought to know.

The old man spoke kindly to the lad, and asked him some hard questions. So clever were the answers that the priest agreed to take the little fellow into the temple as an acolyte, and to educate him for the priest hood.

The boy learned quickly what the old priest taught him, and was very obedient in most things. But he had one fault. He liked to draw cats during study-hours, and to draw cats even where cats ought not to have been drawn at all.

Whenever he found himself alone, he drew cats. He drew them on the margins of the priest's books, and on all the screens of the temple, and on the walls, and on the pillars. Several times the priest told him this was not right; but he did not stop drawing cats. He drew them because he could not really help it. He had what is called "the genius of an artist," and just for that reason he was not quite fit to be an acolyte;-a good acolyte should study books.

One day after he had drawn some very clever pictures of cats upon a paper screen, the old priest said to him severely: "My boy, you must go away from this temple at once. You will never make a good priest, but per haps you will become a great artist. Now let me give you a last piece of advice, and be sure you never forget it. Avoid large places at night;-keep to small!"

The boy did not know what the priest meant by saying, "Avoid large places;-keep to small." He thought and thought, while he was tying up his little bundle of clothes to go away; but he could not understand those words, and he was afraid to speak to the priest any more, except to say good-by.

He left the temple very sorrowfully, and began to wonder what he should do. If he went straight home he felt sure his father would punish him for having been disobedient to the priest: so he was afraid to go home. All at once he remembered that at the next village, twelve miles away, there was a very big temple. He had heard there were several priests at that temple; and he made up his mind to go to them and ask them to take him for their acolyte.
Now that big temple was closed up but the boy did not know this fact. The reason it had been closed up was that a goblin had frightened the priests away, and had taken possession of the place. Some brave warriors had afterward gone to the temple at night to kill the goblin; but they had never been seen alive again. Nobody had ever told these things to the boy;-so he walked all the way to the village hoping to be kindly treated by the priests!

When he got to the village it was already dark, and all the people were in bed, but he saw the big temple on a hill at the other end of the principal street, and he saw there was a light in the temple. People who tell the story say the goblin used to make that light, in order to tempt lonely travelers to ask for shelter. The boy went at once to the temple, and knocked. There was no sound inside. He knocked and knocked again; but still nobody came. At last he pushed gently at the door, and was quite glad to find that it had not been fastened. So he went in, and saw a lamp burning,-but no priest.

He thought some priest would be sure to come very soon, and he sat down and waited. Then he noticed that everything in the temple was gray with dust, and thickly spun over with cobwebs. So he thought to him self that the priests would certainly like to have an acolyte, to keep the place clean. He wondered why they had allowed everything to get so dusty. What most pleased him, however, were some big white screens, good to paint cats upon. Though he was tired, he looked at once for a writing-box, and found one, and ground some ink, and began to paint cats.

He painted a great many cats upon the screens; and then he began to feel very, very sleepy. He was just on the point of lying down to sleep beside one of the screens, when he suddenly remembered the words, "Avoid large places;-keep to small!"

The temple was very large; he was all alone; and as he thought of these words,-though he could not quite understand them-he began to feel for the first time a little afraid; and he resolved to look for a small place in which to sleep. He found a little cabinet, with a sliding door, and went into it, and shut himself up. Then he lay down and fell fast asleep.

Very late in the night he was awakened by a most terrible noise,-a noise of fighting and screaming. It was so dreadful that he was afraid even to look through a chink of the little cabinet: he lay very still, holding his breath for fright.

The light that had been in the temple went out; but the awful sounds continued, and became more awful, and all the temple shook. After a long time silence came; but the boy was still afraid to move. He did not move until the light of the morning sun shone into the cabinet through the chinks of the little door.

Then he got out of his hiding-place very cautiously, and looked about. The first thing he saw was that all the floor of the temple was covered with blood. And then he saw, lying dead in the middle of it, an enormous, monstrous rat,-a goblin-rat,-bigger than a cow!

But who or what could have killed it? There was no man or other creature to be seen. Suddenly the boy observed that the mouths of all the cats he had drawn the night before, were red and wet with blood. Then he knew that the goblin had been killed by the cats which he had drawn. And then also, for the first time, he understood why the wise old priest had said to him, "Avoid large places at night;-keep to small."

Afterward that boy became a very famous artist. Some of the cats which he drew are still shown to travelers in Japan.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on May 25, 2020, 10:00:16 AM
The San Francisco Public Library is pretty amazing, given its perch on the edge of the Western world.  Today they emailed me a list of the 2020 Hugo Award nominees.  I'll paste the link to the list below.  Has anyone read any of them, or are you familiar with the listed authors?  Other than The Expanse, these are all unfamiliar to me.  I'm always looking for more recommendations.  Currently, I'm reading Boccacio's 14th c. Decameron, a collection of bawdy, moralistic stories recounted by a group holing up in a villa during a plague.
https://sfpl.bibliocommons.com/list/share/433865467_sfpl_readersadvisory/1618256485_2020_hugo_award_nominees (https://sfpl.bibliocommons.com/list/share/433865467_sfpl_readersadvisory/1618256485_2020_hugo_award_nominees)

Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: goldshirt*9 on May 26, 2020, 11:46:31 AM
In Leicester our library is a joke :-[
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on May 26, 2020, 02:51:41 PM
At least you have a cheese you can be proud of...

The libraries here are pretty remarkable, really.  It's better when you can actually visit them, but they are doing a great deal to be accessible while the Shelter in place orders are in effect.  The access to magazines, newspapers, ebooks, audio books and streaming tv and movies is pretty astonishing. 

I have just started looking into my recent cache of classic SciFi books and have a copy of Wm. Gibson's Virtual Light that looks promising.  I read Neuromancer a long time ago and it was ok.  Crazy how groggy one feels from taking a midday nap.  I may resort to coffee so I can get motivated to go run errands.  Maybe it's the heat.  We have one of those short hot spells on at the moment.  The tomatoes will be happy at least.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: goldshirt*9 on May 27, 2020, 12:10:18 PM
At least you have a cheese you can be proud of...
Only the farm raised one  ;D ;D (vintage Ivanhoe is WoW) , rest are just commercial rubber
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: Beatrix on June 24, 2020, 10:24:32 PM
The five rings
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on June 25, 2020, 03:04:40 AM
Leo Perutz, Master of the Day of Judgment.

Curious story, translated from German, about a regimental officer accused of causing an actor's suicide.  The book veers into fantasy and suggests that hallucinatory drugs were at work.  The ending belies this.  We are left not knowing what actually happened.

Perutz was a mathematician turned novelist.  His short novels are intriguing and delve into non-supernatural fantasy realms.  The pace was slow but eventually, I stayed up to finish it.  It was something someone gave away, I can't even remember how it came into my possession.  It has a Rockwell Kent woodcut on the cover, which is really a gorgeous design for a paperback.  Edition published in 1930.  It's sewn, so that probably explains why it hasn't just fallen apart.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: goldshirt*9 on June 26, 2020, 06:41:33 AM
Ben Kane - The forgotten Legion  :-\
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on July 05, 2020, 09:56:20 AM
Wm. Gibson, Virtual Light.  I'm about 9/10 of the way through this novel written in the 1980's, but I'm continually impressed at how prescient it is:  people wearing masks to avoid the various "viroids" in the wake of variants of HIV that plague the population; a breakdown of the integrity of the US into smaller states after a major conflict/upheaval.  Also, there is the common theme of the usual post apocalyptic disorder, including multiple layers of private security and police companies, most of which are corrupt, computer hackers, Japanese real estate investors altering the physical landscape, a rotting Bay Bridge with multiple levels of ad hoc squatter dwellings on it, heroic computer hackers and others living off the grid.  Also, multiple weird religious sects, many fundamentalist, run by the usual charlatans.

Much of the general structure of the plot is predictable and not especially different from normal policiers/hard bitten rogue cop on quest for justice type books, but it's still been an entertaining read.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on August 05, 2020, 03:38:18 PM
Just finished City in the Middle of the Night, by Charlie Jane Anders.  It was pretty engaging.  Life on a planet in the future with human colonies landing there after Earth became uninhabitable.  Interesting take on structures of governance, different species, environmental issues and technology.  Also, pretty much told from the perspective of lesbian protagonists.  That was not especially foregrounded, just the fact that the main actors were women and the romantic interests were generally between them.

I'm inhaling science fiction novels now.  Will read The Light Brigade by Kameron Hurley next.

I think these were on some list somewhere of recommended new science fiction.  I found them online.  I am open to more suggestions.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on August 06, 2020, 04:31:33 AM
Thanks for the suggestion.  I'll check that out.  I am reading the remaining actual book I brought, Asimov's Eight Stories from the Rest of the Robots, mostly chosen because I liked Foundation and it was thin, so relatively portable.  I won't be taking these home with me, but leaving them for someone else to read.

The first of the stories was amusing, but very much dated, and squarely in the sort of writing you'd expect from the 1960's.  Given the 1964 publication date, I'm not surprised.  This won't last long, as the individual stories are 10 pages at most, on average.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: goldshirt*9 on August 06, 2020, 08:29:21 AM
I am atm reading Spartacus  by the Scottish writer Lewis Grassic Gibbon,
But Spartacus is not the main character in the book.
Not what i expected at all. Grittier with plenty of rape and pillage with a few torture scenes to boot.
At the front of the book you get a description of the the writer, a bit of a tortured soul.
Written in 1933 the descriptive language and style makes a interesting read.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on August 06, 2020, 10:46:49 AM
John Scalzi wrote "Old Man's War" which is quite entertaining (and the amusing Redshirts, too).

He also has a blog (do we still call them blogs?) at https://whatever.scalzi.com. First a warning: he is sort of the anti-OSC: he is a bit (well a lot) of a Social Justice Warrior (he carries a lot of guilt about being a rich middle aged white man with privilege), which leads to a lot of ignorable drivel. Then the point: he has two regular posts, one is "New Books and ARCs (Advanced Readers Copies)", which does what it says on the tin, and the other is "The Big Idea", in which he posts an essay by a book author on their motivation in writing the book. This can lead to some good stuff (and also some rubbish). Because of his political leanings these authors tend toward the female/ LBQTQBTLQWTBI, but that probably isn't altogether a bad thing.

I checked Scalzi's blog and it looks promising, particularly because it includes The Light Brigade, which is on my ipad, in the reading queue. 

goldie, I've never read much historical fiction, but have heard of the movie, Spartacus (with Kirk Douglas) which is supposed to be a kitschy delight.  So I expect the book is even more interesting, especially given the date of its release.  I was, for some reason, (perhaps because the author is Scottish) reminded of the fact that I've always wanted to read Ivanhoe by Sir Walter Scott.  I read one of his books, Kenilworth, mostly because I picked it up in a sale and the binding was beautiful.  It's about Sir Robert Dudley, a suitor of Queen Elizabeth I.  Quite the page turner.  It whetted my desire to read others by the same author.  I'd audited an intellectual history course a million years ago that had assigned Ivanhoe and never got around to reading it.  But the subject of Orientalism and the situation of this heroine in the Crusades is intriguing to me.  Suddenly, I'm in the middle of time, time from quarantine and waiting, so I'm reading like I'm on a desert island with a library.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on August 07, 2020, 01:35:54 PM
I am Spartacus!

Move over, Buster.  We're all Spartacus here.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: goldshirt*9 on August 08, 2020, 04:38:09 AM
I am Spartacus!
;D ;D
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: smokester on August 08, 2020, 03:25:51 PM
We don't all have experience of being on crosses, though.

I dunno... some of the clubs you frequent. They're not healthy for a man of your age.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: dweez on August 08, 2020, 03:29:29 PM
christ, what's your safe word?
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: smokester on August 08, 2020, 03:31:00 PM
christ, what's your safe word?

Way to pretend you don't know that already.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: dweez on August 08, 2020, 03:40:11 PM
What?

(I also feign being hard of hearing at times)
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: smokester on August 08, 2020, 03:50:37 PM
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

At least, that's what it sounds like when you're trussed up on a cross.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: smokester on August 09, 2020, 03:59:37 PM
I’ll let you know, if I ever have to use it.

Anyone that says POINH if you do, is banned.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on August 10, 2020, 07:31:58 AM
Reading The Light Brigade.  War stories from conscripted grunts in Earth's future.  Pretty entertaining.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: goldshirt*9 on August 11, 2020, 11:49:05 PM
have just received
The Elements of Eloquence: How To Turn the Perfect English Phrase to go with
The Horologicon: A Day's Jaunt Through the Lost Words of the English Language
both by  by Mark Forsyth,  just awaiting
The Etymologicon: a circular stroll through the hidden connections of the English language to make the set
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: smokester on August 12, 2020, 01:53:43 AM
Anyone that says POINH if you do, is banned.

Spoilsport.

It's my job.
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on August 12, 2020, 07:30:55 AM
have just received
The Elements of Eloquence: How To Turn the Perfect English Phrase to go with
The Horologicon: A Day's Jaunt Through the Lost Words of the English Language
both by  by Mark Forsyth,  just awaiting
The Etymologicon: a circular stroll through the hidden connections of the English language to make the set

Those look like fun, readable reference books.  I really enjoyed The Light Brigade.  It just didn't let me down or degenerate in to sentimental twaddle at the end, like some of those feel good light books do.  I'll read others by the same author:  Kameron Hurley.

Right now I have Ivanhoe in the queue, so I'll probably read that, as I've been on a scifi tear lately.  The books take a day or two to get through and I suspect Scott will be a slower read.  It's so hot here, that I have been taking little naps or rests where I read for an hour or two.  So I'm getting through books rather quickly.

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Post by: dweez on August 12, 2020, 07:37:43 AM
With great power comes great responsibility

Did somebody say something?
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on August 13, 2020, 12:00:19 AM
Right now I have Ivanhoe in the queue,
Its a good yarn
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on August 19, 2021, 10:37:01 AM
I enjoyed Ivanhoe, and kept stopping every page or so to look something up.  I ended up writing a dictionary of the oddball terms I kept encountering.  Great for Scrabble words.

I'm posting here from the TV thread because it seemed more related to books than to tv.

I've never read anything by Len Deighton, so maybe I'll pick up SS-GB, but I get the impression that the book leaves you hanging as much as the tv series did.  I'm reading Get Shorty now as I've never read any Elmore Leonard books (or at least I think I haven't).  The movie follows the book much more closely than the tv series did, but both are very good.

Did you ever go to the bookstore and buy a book only to find you already own it?  I must admit this has happened to me more than once.  But I don't have any Deighton novels at home, for sure.  I'm also in the middle of Vikram Seth's A Suitable Boy, but that's a topic for another day.  It's very good and very long.  I also have to keep looking stuff up.  But it's beautifully written.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on August 19, 2021, 02:14:52 PM
I enjoyed Ivanhoe, and kept stopping every page or so to look something up.  I ended up writing a dictionary of the oddball terms I kept encountering.  Great for Scrabble words.

Loved it
Try The White Company or Sir Nigel by Arthur Conan Doyle , I read then to death and had to buy another of each

I've never read anything by Len Deighton, so maybe I'll pick up SS-GB, but I get the impression that the book leaves you hanging as much as the tv series did.  I'm reading Get Shorty now as I've never read any Elmore Leonard books (or at least I think I haven't).  The movie follows the book much more closely than the tv series did, but both are very good.

Haven't watched the series but read the book a long time ago. Was OK but I was young and wasnt my style then.
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on August 19, 2021, 02:46:28 PM
Scott's Kenilworth is also very good.

Thanks for the suggestions.  I'll look into the Conan Doyle titles.  I'd also be happy to read more by Scott.  He was certainly prolific.  Waverly was the first of the series of "Waverly Novels" that apparently include Ivanhoe.  He beats the pants off Elmore Leonard, but Get Shorty is pretty fun for what it is.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on August 20, 2021, 04:58:27 AM
https://www.goodreads.com/series/132815-chivalry (https://www.goodreads.com/series/132815-chivalry)
reading the first book ( didnt realise there were more ) Gritty and not a chivalric as Ivanhoe
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on November 02, 2021, 09:16:04 AM
Leviathan Falls is slated to be released on 11/30.  That's something to look forward to.  I usually inhale those books in a day, though.  James SA Corey must have been busy.

They are talking with Ann Leckie at Powells Books about it -- admission is the price of a book, $30.  That's a decent marketing strategy, although I'm not so sure I'd want to hear them discuss it before I'd had a chance to read it.  What are they going to say about it that wouldn't be a potential spoiler?  https://www.powells.com/book/leviathan-falls-expanse-book-9-9780316332910 (https://www.powells.com/book/leviathan-falls-expanse-book-9-9780316332910)
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on November 03, 2021, 01:07:44 AM
son loves the series and probably the books as well.
Never been to a book "meet" and could be fun.

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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on September 16, 2022, 05:02:23 PM
So I started watching House of the Dragon, which is not bad as a tv series, so far.  Thought I'd catch up on the background, so I picked up Fire & Blood, the book on which it is supposedly based.  This is the 2018 publication of Geo. RR Martin's back story to the House of Targaryen.  Great googly moogly.  Here is a book in desperate need of an editor.

Did he get paid by the word or what?  And after god only knows how many pages (I read it in epub format), the story just kind of peters out.  The long regency of one king ends and then, as an afterthought, he mentions that the king's reign didn't fare well, but then, THE END.  Like, "I'm done with that 2000 pages."  Ding!  Time's up! 

And, tacked on, "by the way, if they'd have let me write a longer book, here's the rest of the history of the House of Targaryen summarized in a list of Kings."  The list is also kind of goofy, in that it ignores a major theme of the book he'd just finished, the usurpation of the crown by Aegon II, a reign that he treats as normal and regular, despite the naming of Viserys's daughter as the rightful heir.  He mentions her parenthetically, as if he hadn't just spent hundreds of pages discussing the war that resulted from the illegal occupation of the throne by her half brother.  Nor does the book complete the cycle.  Why does he quit where he does?  Who can say?

As ChrisT once said, Martin simply doesn't know how to end a book.  We are still waiting for the end of the A Tale of Ice and Fire series, and, I find it telling that, instead of completing that cycle, we get this prequel that also has an unsatisfactory "ending."  Has anyone else read this?
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Post by: 8ullfrog on September 16, 2022, 10:06:34 PM
hah, you got baited.

I watched some dvd feature where they got Nickojai coster waldo or whatever, Jaime Lannister narrated a kind of storybook animation.

He did two stories, the rains of Castamere, and The Dance of Dragons. Both shorts were better than that last season of thrones.

They may have been the clif notes version, but I really liked them. It also told me that I would not enjoy house of the dragon. (stupid autocorrect, I meant clif!)
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on September 17, 2022, 12:00:25 AM
Baited?  I don't think so.  I was just trying to see if it was worth following the show.  The odd thing is that there are illustrations of Targaryen princes in F&B that look like Matt Smith with a dye job, so that casting decision actually begins to make some sense.  Here, however, I think it would be just ducky if the screenwriters for the show chose to take the trajectory of this downer of a book in another direction.  Please, save us from this frustrated writer.  How sad must one's life be to crank out this drivel?  Did the success of A Tale of Ice and Fire take away all the joy for him?

Gimme Sir Walter Scott any day of the week over this guy.
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Post by: 8ullfrog on September 17, 2022, 01:48:31 AM
One of the reasons I never picked up thrones despite having read fantasy since I was a small child is that I choose as an adult not to pick up unfinished series.

However, I was warned that George wrote extensively about Daenarys having diarrhea in the Dothraki sea. Like her entire last chapter is devoted to it.

People have speculated that she has the equivalent of Westeros Ebola (The pale mare) and will die.

That would certainly subvert expectations.

By baited I mean the TV show got you curious enough to pick up the book. All good books start with a hook, I learned that from Steve King.
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Post by: 8ullfrog on September 17, 2022, 03:29:55 AM
George (Lucas) is notorious for lying about what his original intentions were.
It's kind of funny, he gets totally shitty when directly confronted about it.

SPOILER ALERT BELOW

One of my most loved science fiction series ever suffered from exactly this. nBSG. They said there was a plan, they said there was a cycle, and then god did it. They lied. It was all seat of pants.

Seriously. They pulled that in the last 20 minutes.

Aside from the planetfall and all that stupidity, I liked how BSG wrapped up. Cavill doesn't get what he wants and goes out a coward. The fleet is crippled, they're not able to go any further. Thankfully, the planet they're by is inhabitable, if not perfect.

And then they golly it all up. They fly all the ships into the sun.

Making a whole hidden false history would be amazing. One family holding onto and hiding colonial tech in defiance of the ASININE decision to fly everything into the sun would have been AMAZING.

Instead, Hera is mitochondrial eve. The rest of the colonials die out canonically. Helo dies horribly despite UNIVERSAL telling RDM "No kil Helo" as far back as the pilot.

Honestly, I think the writer's strike ruined BSG. Before, it was a well-oiled, amazingly handled machine. Afterwards, it started having "riffs"

That's what I think of House of the dragon. It's a bless'ed riff because GRRM got stuck on thrones.

You see that a lot in fanfic. A writer gets stuck and starts writing HORRIBLE interludes.

The idea of a creative escrow is neat, but it would never get past the Disney committee.

Ironically, RDM stormed off of Star Trek Voyager because they demanded a narrative reset. The networks had tired of the serial nature of DS9, which was essentially his baby.

Another thing in fanfic that annoys the golly out of me is dice rolls. Authors trying to deflect audience anger by saying "hey, I rolled a dice on how that would work out. Sorry"

Maybe DON'T do that.

When I was in High school, our typing class essentially played that "game" weekly, to try and drill WPM. So many people poo up so many stories thinking they were an edgy edgelord. Rocks fall, everyone dies.

I liked trying to re-rail stories like that, and I never stooped to the low of "God reset it!"

I CAN'T GET NO, SATISFACTION!
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on September 17, 2022, 09:33:13 AM
I basically agree with all that has been said here.  But for the love of narrative:  If you are going to write a prequel to an existing series, one would assume that the prequel might end where the existing series begins, right?  How hard is that?  But not this guy.  That's why I think he was like the character in Little Britain, a popular novelist with writer's block, who is dictating her latest book to her assistant.  Out of ideas, she has her character inquire, "Have you read the Bible?"  "No?"  "Oh it's really very good.  Here..." and the character opens the Book of Genesis and begins reading it into what is presumably the longest quotation in the history of literature.  That's how this book reads.  It meanders and meanders for no apparent purpose except some weird effort to appear like a medieval chronicle with citations of invented contemporaneous sources.  E.g.  "nobody knows where Sir Medieval Knight ended up and it's beyond the scope of this account, but it's covered in the Chronicle of where Sir Medieval Knight ended up by some old scribe you never heard of."  The only explanation of this is he's getting paid by the word.  This was the case with 19th c. novelists like Dickens or Dumas, the latter of whom wrote with a team of subordinates.  Still, the Count of Monte Cristo is a brilliant yarn with a greatly satisfying ending.

I'm with ChrisT in suggesting that some basic narrative outline should be required by publishers as a prerequisite of contracts.  Martin's earlier installments of A Tale of Ice and Fire were well written and satisfying.  But then they stopped.  And I have no recollection of Danaerys having any kind of incontinence in the books.  My memory of them is kind of fuzzy, as I read them after viewing the first season of the television series (so yes, I did get "baited" in that regard).  The books were fine.  But this, Fire & Blood, is a pale ghost of those narratives.  It's incoherent and just goes nowhere.  It's got a high body count and has no ending to speak of; it just kind of stops, with no logical reason for the cutoff point. 

This kind of narrative recalls Jack Kerouac typing onto a scroll of butcher paper and cutting off the script when he was finished, although, despite his adherence to "spontaneous bop prosody," at least his stories, as rambling as they were, had an ending.  Martin has no such excuse. This long, drawn out yarn basically goes nowhere after meandering for quite a bit, and leaves us at a station well before our destination.  One wonders why the publisher didn't intervene.
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on February 24, 2023, 12:23:05 AM
I'm reading The Epic of Gilgamesh.  This was a king who lived around 2700 BCE or so.  He was kind of a jerk, abusing his subjects, so the gods made him a complement, a big wild man named Enkidu.  They get into a wrestling match because E steps in to prevent G from raping yet another bride on her wedding night.  They become fast friends and have big adventures.  He lived in Uruk in Sumeria.  The story was written down on cuneiform tablets that were found elsewhere by archaeologists digging in the late 19th-early XX cc.  It's clear that Homer and the Bible drew on several themes in this earlier epic.  It's not long but it's entertaining.

I think it's often assigned in college.  Somehow I made it through without being asked to read it for a class.  Did any of you read it?
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on February 24, 2023, 03:34:43 AM
Nope  never heard of it, Period wise, the middle ages and prior for me.
An about to read The power of geography series. 
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Post by: Beatrix on April 25, 2023, 06:22:34 PM
Homeschooling my daughter, we are reading Alice in Wonderland, very interesting comparisons from the Disney in my head to the material in the book. 
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on April 25, 2023, 10:05:49 PM
Homeschooling my daughter, we are reading Alice in Wonderland, very interesting comparisons from the Disney in my head to the material in the book.

That's a great story.  It's fun to read Lewis Carroll.   Through the Looking Glass is also wonderful.  When I was in college I discovered his Pillow Problems and a Tangled Tale, basically logic problems, but very funny ones. Available for free borrows at archive.org.   There are several movies made of Alice in Wonderland, and some of the older ones are the best, although there's even one with Johnny Depp, if memory serves (maybe that's the Disney one you were talking about? directed by Tim Burton?)

Edward Lear is also really enjoyable to read as he wrote lots of daffy oddball poems.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on April 26, 2023, 07:43:24 AM
Homeschooling my daughter, we are reading Alice in Wonderland, very interesting comparisons from the Disney in my head to the material in the book.
I personally have found that anything that Disney has made into a film Alice in wonderland, Sword in the stone - I just cannot then read the book  :o
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: goldshirt*9 on August 23, 2023, 08:12:31 AM
God is not Great - Christopher Hitchens
Title: Re: Reader's Nook
Post by: 6pairsofshoes on August 23, 2023, 09:51:33 PM
I have not read the book, but recall an article by him lambasting Mother Theresa.  It's been years since I read it.  I do recall that he was a bit extreme in his criticisms in that case. 

That said, I saw him speak several years ago at a local law school and he was delightful as an orator -- quick on his feet.  He was wonderfully smart and I miss the level of debate that he fostered, given the focus of specialized media that offers multiple talking heads who offer "contrasting points of view" but who are in fundamental agreement.

I write this instead of watching the Republican presidential debate.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on August 24, 2023, 03:44:08 AM
Whether God is great or not isn't at all relevant. I think that Mr Hitchens makes the fundamental error of assuming that (organised) religion has anything to do with God(s) other than strictly nominally. Religion is another of those things like FaceBook and Reddit (and gangs, and abusive marriages etc.) that allow people to cluster together for shelter, preferably with someone to tell them how to live. Some (quite a lot, to be honest) people desperately need someone else to tell them what they should think and do, and throughout history "religions" have been a very common way of fulfilling that need. What this means is that people "on the inside" are immune to "logic", no matter how much people on the outside think it will help. Something exactly similar happens with the most dedicated adherents of political parties - particularly the extreme ones.
I have not read the book, but recall an article by him lambasting Mother Theresa.  It's been years since I read it.  I do recall that he was a bit extreme in his criticisms in that case. 

That said, I saw him speak several years ago at a local law school and he was delightful as an orator -- quick on his feet.  He was wonderfully smart and I miss the level of debate that he fostered, given the focus of specialized media that offers multiple talking heads who offer "contrasting points of view" but who are in fundamental agreement.

I write this instead of watching the Republican presidential debate.

Spoiler alert people, may just give directly to the free community library as I now know the "story" 😂🤣
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on August 28, 2023, 09:46:15 AM
I have not read the book, but recall an article by him lambasting Mother Theresa.  It's been years since I read it.  I do recall that he was a bit extreme in his criticisms in that case. 

I haven't read nor seen this article, plenty of Video's referring to M,Teresa from a few Orators.
A very mixed bag in their talking's about her and a few very harsh in their opinions, Mainly from the Indian perspective. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on October 06, 2023, 05:20:24 PM
A Memory called Empire by Arkady Martine, not bad and engaging.  I discovered that the writer is also an urban planner, which makes a good deal of sense in how she describes infrastructures and the interplanetary relationships between an imperial political entity and its subsidiary states.

I just inhaled Persepolis Rising, by Jas SA Corey the 7th book in the Expanse series.  For some reason I probably read it and had forgotten.  I thought it was new.  Vague memories of key events finally came back to me.  I figure I'll read the last 2 novels now since my memory doesn't hold too much of these plots.  Perhaps I'm sleep deprived.  These sci fi novels are like popcorn.  Can't stop eating them and they are consumed so quickly.  I finished PR in a day and a half and now need something else engaging to read on the plane.  This ought to work.

I'm always open to suggestions for new sci fi novels.  I occasionally comb the Hugo winners and other lists to find things.  The Martine book was sitting around in my ebooks waiting for me to get around to it.  I guess it was from the last time I went looking for something light to read.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on October 06, 2023, 11:05:27 PM
I'm always open to suggestions for new sci fi novels.  I occasionally comb the Hugo winners and other lists to find things.  The Martine book was sitting around in my ebooks waiting for me to get around to it.  I guess it was from the last time I went looking for something light to read.

A large area to peruse,
Julian May ?
Stephan Donaldson ?
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on October 07, 2023, 10:46:48 PM
Having said that, I read all of his stuff avidly until I got to The Last Chronicles, and I couldn't get into them at all.

As with lots of writers/films  A series too far.
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Post by: smokester on October 09, 2023, 10:50:08 AM
Hardly what one might call "reading a book" considering the length of each poem, but I treated myself to Lemn Sissay's Let The Love Pour In when it came out.

Must have thumbed through it at least a dozen times so far.
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Post by: smokester on October 09, 2023, 03:20:21 PM
Let the Light Pour In?

Whoops. Freudian slip, maybe?
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on October 09, 2023, 07:47:33 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions.  I'm on a tear to finish the Expanse series and with the travel I've been doing lately, that shouldn't take long.  I go through a book every couple of days. 
Hardly what one might call "reading a book" ..., but I treated myself to Lemn Sissay's Let The Love Pour In when it came out.

Must have thumbed through it at least a dozen times so far.

That sounds like a great title for a '70's R&B song.

I'll dig around and see what Julian May I can come up with.  slsk is a great resource for that.
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on October 10, 2023, 05:50:47 PM
Was it my imagination or was The Many-Colored Land recommended?  This guy is prolific so I'm kind of overwhelmed by the selection.

Some posts disappear and I've been too distracted to remember to quote stuff for safekeeping.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on October 11, 2023, 09:25:55 AM
A. J. Smit did a 4 part series called the Black Guard. A tad fantasy but when I read it I thought it wasn't a run of the mill series 🤷‍♂️
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on January 18, 2024, 09:05:31 AM
Without internet, I read a lot.  Here's recent musings on books I've finished in the past couple of weeks.

Jas. McBride, Deacon King Kong.  Amusing, although not like the author has lightning bolts coming out of his head or anything.  A sweet little book.

George Elliot, Middlemarch.  Am I getting old or was this a lot longer than necessary?  I prefer Trollope.  Someone said, "you gotta read this, it's by a woman."  So I did.  I still don't get what all the fuss is about.  At least now I can avoid reading anything else by her.  Jane Austen is much better and more succinct among the writers in this genre.

VS Naipaul, A House for Mr. Biswas.  This is a well written book, about a guy who is basically self centered and unlikeable.  I feel sorry for his wife and kids.  Mostly a flashback biography after he dies.  In that, I'm reminded of Joaquim Maria Machado de Assis' Posthumous Memoirs of Bras Cubas, except that the latter is in the first person while Mr. B is told from a 3rd person perspective.  I'm nearly done with it and like it better than the Elliot.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on January 19, 2024, 10:31:01 PM
Without internet,

I read every day and ignore the internet

George Elliot and similar of the era dragged the novels out, Have tried to read "period" books but Nope nor for me.
On book 18 of Cato & Macro (eagles of the empire series) and have decided to move away from this style of books, need a change
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on March 08, 2024, 05:50:41 AM
I am finally at the end of "Eagles of the Empire" 22 book series. Have enjoyed but need a change.
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on March 24, 2024, 07:57:29 AM
I was recently stuck without internet for a couple of weeks so got in a bunch of reading.
Emile Zola:  The Belly of Paris (plot summary:  people are assholes);  The Happiness of Women (young girl from a small town has to fend for self and two younger brothers in the big city by working at a big dept store).  Both well worth reading.  They deal, respectively, with Les Halles, the Second Empire covered market that facilitated food distribution for Paris, and a large department store (grand magasin) modeled after Le Bon Marché.

Friedrich Durrenmatt; The Judge and his Hangman.  Probably best as a movie script.  I found it kind of lacking as a noir detective novel. 

Tim Powers:  Dinner at Deviant's Palace.  Recommended by a friend and a winner of the Philip K. richard prize.  It has faint reminiscences of richard's shifting reality and deals with a cult manipulated by an alien, but I prefer the darker perspective of PKD's fiction.  It was ok for a quick scifi novel.

Jonathan Karl:  Betrayal:  the last act of the Trump show.  More engaging insights into the megalomaniacal former President's inability to believe he lost the last election and his crew of enablers.  It's readable and depressing.  If Trump wins another time, I may be joining you guys across the pond.

The only Vonegut novel I read was pretty depressing.  Slaughterhouse Five.  I wasn't inspired to read anything else by him.  I just checked the plot of Harrison Bergeron and wasn't tempted.  It sounds like a downer.  He was amusing in the film, "Back to School," featuring Rodney Dangerfield and with an appearance by Oingo Boingo.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on April 24, 2024, 06:23:34 AM
Dont you just hate when you have this book you have read a while ago and want to re read BUT cannot remember its titile :-\ :-\

Believe a Russian author, detective goes into looking for murderers but he has to "plug/drug" himself to go into a mental/mind world to catch the killers.
I suppose a matrix/mnemonic style film but definitely older than either
Someone recommended on the Dem.  ??? ??? ???
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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on April 24, 2024, 10:11:49 AM
I assume it was a sci fi book?  I tried googling but not successfully, but I did find this search that might be useful for you:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/185-what-s-the-name-of-that-book (https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/185-what-s-the-name-of-that-book)
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on April 25, 2024, 06:30:45 AM
yeo sci-fi, The thing is I have the book in calibre but cannot remember the cover so it makes
my searching for it worse  ;D
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on May 27, 2024, 12:55:07 AM
Read a few of  Ted Chiang
The tower of Babylon  enjoyed a lot
Arrival (Stories of your life and others)  more of a so so
May have won awards but I have read that's it.

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Post by: 6pairsofshoes on June 29, 2024, 10:35:40 AM
Wading through the Southern Reach Trilogy by Jeff VanderMeer.  I picked up the first, Annihilation, and it seemed familiar as I'd seen the movie with Natalie Portman.  The book is richer and better.  It's so slow to develop and not so much of a horror show as a contemplation of what alien life might be life if it showed up, or not.  The second and third are equally good but strange.  Each focuses on one of three primary characters whose stories interweave.  I'm nearly finished and still don't quite know what's going on and neither do the characters.  There are transformations, illnesses and deaths, but nothing is consistent enough to pin a simple cause on anything.  I'm hoping that by the end I'll have obtained a firmer grasp on things.

There's gorgeous descriptions of animals and the surrounding nature of a coastal ecosystem and of ruined human structures.  Sadness and nostalgia permeate this book and they add to the generally rich writing.  So it's not the average science fiction novel series.

goldie, I saw the movie Arrival and it was decent.  Haven't read any of Chiang's works.  Sounds like he mostly writes short stories but good ones.
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on August 29, 2024, 06:25:31 AM
On the 11th book from R.E.Feist trying to read in date wrote. Read the Riftwar and Empire (make a great TV series ) to death but decided to give them all a chance
Finding them gripping TBH and not too taxing
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Post by: goldshirt*9 on October 27, 2024, 04:46:46 PM
On the 11th book from R.E.Feist trying to read in date wrote. Read the Riftwar and Empire (make a great TV series ) to death but decided to give them all a chance
Finding them gripping TBH and not too taxing

Still plodding along
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Post by: 8ullfrog on October 27, 2024, 10:59:20 PM
One funny thing, I've been wondering for years why my book collection stopped working. I used to use microsoft reader which mostly ignored format differences, but microsoft axed it well before 10, so my book library was essentially in heiroglyphs.

The day before we got internet I noticed that a local store had an open wifi connection, and to my shame, I used their wifi to download calibre.

To mask the download I looked up a bunch of tools I have no intention of buying, and honestly, yikes. Lot of one stars. I thought Harbor Freight had the bad rep as hazard fraught, but I won't be buying my driver bits from local hardware megastore.

Also, I spend way too much time at local hardware megastore. Their prices are not competitive, but I'm SOL on a lot of this. For instance, to dispose of green garbage in our area, you have to buy disposal bags from local hardware megastore.

Also my dog got back there today and I'm not happy about it. I'd honestly be happier if he'd run into the store than the parking lot.

Also, I read Bruce Campbell's If Chins could Kill.

Fantastic book that clearly illustrates it's not an act, it's a PERFORMANCE.

Sadly, it's an older title, I'd love a similar warts and all analysis of his time on Burn Notice.

I rate the book... Groovy.