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Site Related => Announcements => Topic started by: smokester on September 21, 2009, 02:24:54 PM

Title: New games' lists.
Post by: smokester on September 21, 2009, 02:24:54 PM
Over time we will be introducing wiki hosted lists for our games, and before you update one of these there is an important aspect that people should be aware of.  That is that if you edit a page as a guest, your IP will be displayed in the page history.  The combat this all you have to do is register there and only your ID will show after that. I realise that many of the game players already have accounts so they have no need to worry.

Before anyone complains about this there are a number of reasons why we will need to do something like this sooner or later, as a dozen or more games' lists being copied and pasted repeatedly every day, makes no sense to the size and manageability of our database for one thing alone. But there are other benefits too and this should really be welcomed as it can only serve to keep as healthy and around for the long term.

If anyone is unsure how to edit and update these lists when they appear, then please ask one of the staff for some help.
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: frankcapri on September 21, 2009, 02:27:50 PM
Holy crap.  I didn't know that.  I've been updating those pages on Demonoid  :o
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: ohcheap1 on September 21, 2009, 02:28:01 PM
IM gonna complain!!! Oh....what the hell.....I hate them and that's that. Dont want to hear the ol "Good of the many outweigh the good of the one" speech.
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: nouseforaname on September 21, 2009, 02:31:34 PM
I don't get this. Maybe it's the lack of brain I'm using since I just woke up and got this message.
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: smokester on September 21, 2009, 02:34:55 PM
IM gonna complain!!!

You can always PM yourself about it, after all, any complaints I receive I am forwarding to you to deal with.

Holy crap.  I didn't know that.  I've been updating those pages on Demonoid  :o


Demonoid has tons of data added everyday and many a techie to keep the database clean - either that or it's your list updating that broke them.

I don't get this. Maybe it's the lack of brain I'm using since I just woke up and got this message.

I only did it to get you to post :)
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: dweez on September 21, 2009, 02:35:17 PM
I've never created an account cuz I've never really cared if they logged my IP.  It's not like we're doing anything illegal here.  Anyway, I'll probably create an account now.
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: frankcapri on September 21, 2009, 02:37:47 PM
IM gonna complain!!! Oh....what the hell.....I hate them and that's that. Dont want to hear the ol "Good of the many outweigh the good of the one" speech.

I don't understand.  Eventually the scoreboard can't be posted because it becomes too long. 
Before the wiki pages you'd have to click back to a previous scoreboard to check that then
check the current one.  It was actually more of a pain in the ass that way  :-\

Demonoid has tons of data added everyday and many a techie to keep the database clean - either that or it's your list updating that broke them.

I think you misunderstood what I meant by that.  My IP is directly exposed in connection with Demonoid
through those wiki pages Indie set up on Demonoid (I'm not pointing fingers at Indie here, in fact I thought
what he did was awesome). 

Anyway, my IP connected with Demonoid that intimately isn't good  :D
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: smokester on September 21, 2009, 02:43:20 PM
I think you misunderstood what I meant by that.  My IP is directly exposed in connection with Demonoid
through those wiki pages Indie set up on Demonoid (I'm not pointing fingers at Indie here, in fact I thought
what he did was awesome). 

Anyway, my IP connected with Demonoid that intimately isn't good  :D

I see now and damn that ambiguity thingmabob.

At least I have done you some kind of service then Frank and if you see me stoned to death on the cobbles in the morning, could you please call the fuzz to OC's house.

It's not like we're doing anything illegal here..

So you think that running through the staff room butt nekkid is within the law then?
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: indie180 on September 21, 2009, 02:45:34 PM

I think you misunderstood what I meant by that.  My IP is directly exposed in connection with Demonoid
through those wiki pages Indie set up on Demonoid (I'm not pointing fingers at Indie here, in fact I thought
what he did was awesome).  

Anyway, my IP connected with Demonoid that intimately isn't good  :D

Your IP is connected to Wikispace.
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: frankcapri on September 21, 2009, 02:47:00 PM
Yeah, but I don't think it would very difficult to trace where those pages are linked to  ;D

I'm not extremely concerned about it, but if I had known before I would have made an account  ;D

At least I have done you some kind of service then Frank and if you see me stoned to death on the cobbles in the morning, could you please call the fuzz to OC's house.

Surely :D

Gotta make an account ASAP  :o
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: ohcheap1 on September 21, 2009, 03:46:29 PM
I don't understand.  Eventually the scoreboard can't be posted because it becomes too long.  
I supposed its my browser but all lists appear on my screen with a scroll bar so I dont have to see long lists.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k246/ohcheap1/list.jpg)

So you think that running through the staff room butt nekkid is within the law then?
I would prefer a long stretch so you really get a good work out.
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: laama on September 21, 2009, 03:51:13 PM
Thanks for info.
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: indie180 on September 21, 2009, 03:59:50 PM
I supposed its my browser but all lists appear on my screen with a scroll bar so I dont have to see long lists.


There is a maximum of characters you can use with a code table using BBC, so would you rather stop the game when we reach this point.

This helps with site usage to have an external source store data for free
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: ohcheap1 on September 21, 2009, 04:02:27 PM
Just do it so I can start getting used to it already.......... :P  :-*  Trying to remember who the last person I told that to.  ;)
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: smokester on September 21, 2009, 04:12:55 PM
I'm not sure that code boxes couldn't grow exponentially, as that would require a declaration somewhere in the code?  But these lists become cumbersome and to hard to navigate over time, not to mention that if we ever, God forbid, lost our database, we wouldn't have to go about updating each list to get back to the point before a reload.

Besides which, I totally prefer the wiki ones..
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: Skadi on September 21, 2009, 04:22:43 PM
Just do it so I can start getting used to it already.......... :P  :-*  Trying to remember who the last person I told that to.  ;)

LMAO ^

..and I have to add that I'm lost.. and someone has to 'instruct' me.. normally I'm a fast learner :D

So.. do I search wiki lists and go to some site and register?  ???

can somebody pointy please?
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: smokester on September 21, 2009, 04:29:43 PM
LMAO ^

..and I have to add that I'm lost.. and someone has to 'instruct' me.. normally I'm a fast learner :D

So.. do I search wiki lists and go to some site and register?  ???

can somebody pointy please?

Here's one of the lists that is going up soon:

http://diasnametheauthor.wikispaces.com/

Join on the left and the edit button is on the right.

It is not compulsory to add a wikipedia link to your update, but if you choose to then you'll see the "URL" tag in editing mode.
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: Skadi on September 21, 2009, 04:38:05 PM
^ okie doke
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: xtopave on September 21, 2009, 04:50:33 PM
Just posting to get the answers if something important happens with the lists.
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: indie180 on September 21, 2009, 04:55:49 PM
Just posting to get the answers if something important happens with the lists.

Everything is cool with me and Wiki now.  ;D

You only need to join once and your are a member of all the list's. 

So Frank after you join, your IP should change to what ever user name you chose on all the list's here and on Noid.
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: ohcheap1 on September 21, 2009, 05:29:08 PM
Besides which, I totally prefer the wiki ones..

Um, yeah, love you too. (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k246/ohcheap1/Smileys/www_MessenTools_com-emoticones-humo.gif)
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: frankcapri on September 21, 2009, 06:26:16 PM
So Frank after you join, your IP should change to what ever user name you chose on all the list's here and on Noid.

Nice.  Thanks  :)
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: indie180 on September 21, 2009, 06:36:39 PM
Let me know when you have signed up.

I know how to check 'Orgasm Addict'  ;D

Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: frankcapri on September 21, 2009, 09:23:43 PM
I've signed up.  It didn't change my IP though.  I have a dynamic IP.  Since it logs the external
IP, I'm pretty sure it doesn't recognize me because I'm not using any of those anymore  ;D

I know how to check 'Orgasm Addict'  ;D

Well, that's an easy one.  Just look for the guy that's doing it with the lady who puts the little plastic bobins on the Christmas cakes  ;D

Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: Skadi on September 21, 2009, 09:26:37 PM
I'm still confused. It seemed too easy. I feel like I'm missing some bigger picture :-\
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: frankcapri on September 21, 2009, 09:27:48 PM
Seemed too easy to sign up?  It's easy to sign up.  It's not easy to sign off  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: Skadi on September 21, 2009, 09:36:37 PM
  It's not easy to sign off  ;D ;D ;D

eeep now i'm feeling fatalistic :(
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: dweez on September 22, 2009, 01:27:36 AM
It's the wiki page that logs your IP when you edit a page as a "guest".  It does this for accountability issues.  If you log in, they know your username and an e-mail to contact you at.  This is something they would use (or bother with) only in cases where it has been reported that someone has maliciously edited a page.  I would imagine they (the wiki people) could also use that and their databases transaction logs to remove that malicious edit.
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: mishca09 on September 22, 2009, 04:07:45 PM
if you dont want to make an account you can use mine.

lazy00

cider
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: dweez on September 22, 2009, 04:35:11 PM
Ah, would have been much better had it been:

u: dickens
c: cider
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: Skadi on September 22, 2009, 11:57:43 PM
heh.. no joking.. I actually really am lost now >_<

I went to the site.. tried to find the list I want updated.. er couldn't find it.. and Probably might not have figured out how to update it if I had. I'll give it a shot tomorrow when I'm more awake. ..unless anyone has hints :)
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: Skadi on September 23, 2009, 06:06:37 AM
okie.. I'm awake.. and it makes no sense to me today either :D

Can someone just tell me the first step? I went to wiki lists and registered. When I'm there I can see options to join certain lists if I search dias. But I don't see a song anagrams list for example.
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: smokester on September 23, 2009, 06:53:51 AM
okie.. I'm awake.. and it makes no sense to me today either :D

Can someone just tell me the first step? I went to wiki lists and registered. When I'm there I can see options to join certain lists if I search dias. But I don't see a song anagrams list for example.

The link to a list will appear here when it has been created and is ready.  Indie has put an inordinate amount of work creating them and adding links to wikipedia, and so I believe there are only a few that are actually up.

You can see how it works here in the author game.

http://www.diasfora.co.uk/index.php?topic=24.msg83368#msg83368
Title: Re: New games' lists.
Post by: Skadi on September 23, 2009, 07:27:27 AM
The link to a list will appear here when it has been created and is ready.  Indie has put an inordinate amount of work creating them and adding links to wikipedia, and so I believe there are only a few that are actually up.

You can see how it works here in the author game.

http://www.diasfora.co.uk/index.php?topic=24.msg83368#msg83368

doh! that makes sense. I should check the game itself for the link first. I was doing it backwards ::)

Thank you.