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Computer/Technology => Technology => Topic started by: smokester on May 03, 2013, 05:04:29 PM
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I've scanned all our threads in "computing" and I cannot find a suitable thread to simply ask for opinions/recommendations on certain hardware/software. Therefore I'm starting this as a sort of generic one that shouldn't be reserved for my initial question, it can be recycled for future advice.
My dilemma is that I have a small amount of disposable dosh and it is time for a new laptop. I wanted something with grunt and a big screen and ideally, under £700.
I have boiled it down to these 2 machines (not necessarily from this outlet as I can source then marginally cheaper elsewhere) and I'd like to ask for members' opinions on which one they'd choose.
The Samsung has a slightly more powerful CPU, but the Lenovo has better audio, Blue Ray, and possibly a better screen. The must be a deal breaking/maker in there somewhere?
I'm torn:
Lenovo (http://www.dabs.com/products/lenovo-g780-i7-3612qm-8gb-1tb-bluray-17--win8-bronze-8C1N.html?refs=54600000-51220000&src=3)
Samsung (http://www.dabs.com/products/samsung-series-3-350e7c-black-core-i7-3630m-8gb-1tb-17-3--amd-radeon-hd-7670m-graphics-w8hp-8C4Y.html?refs=54600000-51220000&src=3)
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I'd take the samsung out of the two for the graphics alone (2gb radeon 7670 + intel 4000 vs intel 4000 alone). I think you could find one for a similar price (?) that had gddr5 graphics memory vs gddr3, which the samsung has.
I wouldn't use the bluray so that plays part in my suggestion; it's not a value added add-on for me personally.
The resolution on the samsung is higher than the lenovo.
They both look nice. If you want another possible candidate, I'd suggest the HP dv7* line (or dv6* for ~15inchers.) The one I'm typing on has done me well for over 2 years, and we purchased one recently at work for the shop floor. Not sure if they'd be any more bang for the buck than what you listed for where you live. worth a look though.
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Of the 2, I agree with dan. I have a blu-ray player in this system that I've never used for anything besides burning DVDs.
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The Samsung is the one I'd originally bookmarked and was on the verge of buying, but I thought I'd have a sniff round before a purchase as you always find something better 10 minutes after you've shelled out.
Thanks for the heads-up about the HP, Dan, I'll research it now.
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Agree on the Samsung, friend has a Lenova and for its price it's excellent.( a lot cheaper than above link though)
Totally agree on the blue ray comment. Have around with friends Asus laptop ( one of the original laptops with blue ray) nice picture but when are you going to take disc's around with you.( cough cough rips).
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I managed to find the HP at the right price I think:
http://compadvance.co.uk/en/item/81543/HP-dv7-6b03sg
So I nearly have enough to run a poll.
Out of the 3?
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like a child in a sweet shop. ;D ;D
you could always customise
http://www.novatech.co.uk/laptop/range/novatecheliten1535.html (http://www.novatech.co.uk/laptop/range/novatecheliten1535.html)
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I've been using Novatech since they started and all of the comps in the house are their generic brand.
I have had issues with at least 50% of what I have bought, and even the bad boy, dweez-like computer that I am using to write this on, they didn't send enough caddies for me to build a RAID system. I complained and they sent some out, but they were wrong. I complained again and they apologised and then nada. I still use them but I have lost a little faith. Besides which, their laptops are only rebranded ones. The Novatech laptop I am ungrading from broke a while back and I had to replace the motherboard, and it turned out it was a Mitac.
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Neither is a mac.
... but i suppose that you had noticed that.
That Novatech company originated in Portsmouth, but apparently couldn't sell any PCs locally.
I made that latter part up.
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The HP you linked is windows 7. The samsung is windows 8. keep that in mind (although you can reinstall an OS of your choice later on).
The HP you linked is an "older model" that has a second generation i7 in it. Its got a higher processor than my dv6, but still lower than the 3rd generation i7 that's in the samsung.
The hp graphics card has gddr5 memory, but only 1 gig compared to the samsung's gddr3 2gigs. I'm too lazy to check notebookcheck.net to compare the two.
I really like the fingerprint reader in my dv6.
Samsung has a bigger hard drive.
Between those two, I'd go for the samsung, even though I love my HP. I'm the kind of guy who will wait til HP matches the specs and price, but that'd probably mean waiting months for something better to come along. I get better deals from HP anyway, since I am a student at a qualified university.
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The latest generation of the HP DV7, is unfortunately out of my price range:
HP DV7 (http://h20386.www2.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=ECC_BUNDLE_3836471&opt=&sel=PCNB&jumpID=ex_r11638_uk/en/hho/psg/hpstore-googlemerchant_ot_aff_pu_ds_ECC-BUNDLE-3836471/feed_str/dt&k_clickid=EMEA|37e90ca6-7fa2-cae9-2307-00003380781d&kpid=ECC_BUNDLE_3836471)
I'm pretty sold on the Samsung now although I'd prefer Win 7 as I'm not sure all of my software will run on 8. I'll order it later this week as I am finished double checking around for a better comp/deal, and many thanks for all the input as this thread has proved really helpful.
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The latest generation of the HP DV7, is unfortunately out of my price range:
HP DV7 (http://h20386.www2.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=ECC_BUNDLE_3836471&opt=&sel=PCNB&jumpID=ex_r11638_uk/en/hho/psg/hpstore-googlemerchant_ot_aff_pu_ds_ECC-BUNDLE-3836471/feed_str/dt&k_clickid=EMEA|37e90ca6-7fa2-cae9-2307-00003380781d&kpid=ECC_BUNDLE_3836471)
I'm pretty sold on the Samsung now although I'd prefer Win 7 as I'm not sure all of my software will run on 8. I'll order it later this week as I am finished double checking around for a better comp/deal, and many thanks for all the input as this thread has proved really helpful.
I haven't found any software yet that runs on Win7 that won't run on Win8. I don't use a wide spread of software but I'm fairly confident you'll be alright. All software might not support Metro, but it should run perfectly fine in Desktop.
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This is how Im going to make my living for the next couple of years (hopefully). Showing peeps how to use this horrendous OS
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I knew that.
(Portsmouth is quite near Gosport)
Is that Godport you say. I must change the batteries in my hearing aid.
This is how Im going to make my living for the next couple of years (hopefully). Showing peeps how to use this horrendous OS
I've only had a solitary encounter with it so far and didn't fancy it much. This is coming from a man who used Win2K until about 2008. Damn! I loved that OS.
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Moved this thread to the correct section.
I haven't found any software yet that runs on Win7 that won't run on Win8. I don't use a wide spread of software but I'm fairly confident you'll be alright. All software might not support Metro, but it should run perfectly fine in Desktop.
I have a little time so I'll install it on a drive on this comp' and see how I get on. I know a lot of my software have "Windows 8 versions" so whether my existing stuff runs or not, there will always be that nagging feeling to upgrade.
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From what I can tell, the changes necessary for established programs to adapt to Windows 8 have to do with aesthetics or touch screen compatibility. None of them seem to be about kb/m desktop functionality.
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From what I can tell, the changes necessary for established programs to adapt to Windows 8 have to do with aesthetics or touch screen compatibility. None of them seem to be about kb/m desktop functionality.
That's true. In fact, I find layout and menu changes quite annoying in new versions of software, as they require you to relearn parts of the navigation. I'm probably better sticking with what I already have.
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A lot of people poo-poo it right away because it doesn't have a start screen. Don't let that put you off. A couple tips, Winkey+X is your bestest friend. If you must have a start menu, there are several add-ons you can get. ClassicShell is a free one that I use and love. Start8 is a $5 program from Stardock (a la Windows Blinds, i.e., a well established company). Both have gotten really good reviews.
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A lot of people poo-poo it right away because it doesn't have a start screen. Don't let that put you off. A couple tips, Winkey+X is your bestest friend. If you must have a start menu, there are several add-ons you can get. ClassicShell is a free one that I use and love. Start8 is a $5 program from Stardock (a la Windows Blinds, i.e., a well established company). Both have gotten really good reviews.
Perhaps you should start a Win 8 thread in computing, and use it for helpful advice like the above. OC seems to be ahead of the game too, so you'd have female company... at last :)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22439496 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22439496) interesting
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Perhaps you should start a Win 8 thread in computing, and use it for helpful advice like the above. OC seems to be ahead of the game too, so you'd have female company... at last :)
That's a great idea. I'll try to get a post up with some stuff sometime tonight or tomorrow after I've had time to organize.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22439496 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22439496) interesting
That's pretty much what I thought of Windows 8 when I saw it. It looked to much like my phone, or at least the way I navigate on my phone, and I don't particularly like that either (I much preferred Windows Mobile on a Pocket PC).
I'm not writing it off as I preferred XP once I'd taken the plunge, and the same with Win 7 once I'd left my Luddite attitude behind. I'm hoping Win 8 will be the same, and dweez is about half to convincing me already.
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Well I bit the bullet and bought the Samsung. I managed to get it for £648 from laptopsdirect which is £30 cheaper than Dabs.
Enough left for a beer and a pizza then..
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Bravo.
I bet your all excited and cannot wait to receive it :D
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Bravo.
I bet your all excited and cannot wait to receive it :D
I'm a bit weird. When I receive something new I have to look at the unopened box for a couple of days until it feels like the right time to open it. I figure if I open it when I don't have enough time to fully examine it, I won't feel like it's truly arrived.
Little minds, hobgoblins, and all that..
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No way! I'd tear it open like a five year old at Xmas and play with it 'til it breaks an hour later!
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No way! I'd tear it open like a five year old at Xmas and play with it 'til it breaks an hour later!
dito ;D ;D ;D ;D
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No way! I'd tear it open like a five year old at Xmas and play with it 'til it breaks an hour later!
dito ;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm a bit weird....
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Congrats on the purchase smokes. I understand your attitude toward packages. I personally can't do it, but I understand it.
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I'm a bit weird. When I receive something new I have to look at the unopened box for a couple of days until it feels like the right time to open it. I figure if I open it when I don't have enough time to fully examine it, I won't feel like it's truly arrived.
I completely agree. It's a foreplay of sorts. It's better if you don't rush it.
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I completely agree. It's a foreplay of sorts. It's better if you don't rush it.
That's exactly it: "foreplay".
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/me fans himself
Whoa, is it hot in here or is it just me?
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I completely agree. It's a foreplay of sorts. It's better if you don't rush it.
so the foreplay, at my age grab it and play with it
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When I ordered this on Friday, I didn't opt for the guaranteed Monday delivery at £10, but rather the 3-5 working days for £5.
It's arriving on Monday. Go figure.
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It arrived this afternoon and is still in the grey plastic bag. Inside the bag is the box, and inside the box are the goodies.
I think I'll open it when the kids are at school tomorrow. In fact, I'll buy a cappuccino on the way home to aid me. With whipped cream of course - foreplay just wouldn't be the same without it.
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Keep us posted and let us know when you already lit up the cigarette. :D
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I finally opened the box and set it up this afternoon, but Windoze 8 just killed the mood.
I'll hang onto it just to keep up with the young folk, but a partition and Win 7 is on its way.
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Ok, just read this and now I'm a little apprehensive:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/askjack/2013/apr/18/windows-8-downgrade-to-windows-7
Hmmm...
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fresh install of 7 maybe
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I say suck it up and just keep using Win8. Throw on ClassicShell and you'll barely notice Metro.
**Disclaimer** The above is the opinion of a Windows admin who has always chosen to "eat his own dogfood" and live in the trenches with the peons he rules over.
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I say suck it up and just keep using Win8. Throw on ClassicShell and you'll barely notice Metro.
**Disclaimer** The above is the opinion of a Windows admin who has always chosen to "eat his own dogfood" and live in the trenches with the peons he rules over.
ClassicShell was installed with the first 3 minutes (thanks for that Dweez) and I am already starting to warm to Windoze 8.
OK, so here's the problem:
I still want to install 7 on a partition (for some software and localhost reasons) but the UEFI could cause a problem, right?
Do I set the bios to UEFI and Legacy OS, install 7 on a partitiion and then take my chances?
Do I backup Win 8 (it was pre-installed with no disks) and then install 7 and then re-install 8 as the secondary system?
Do I nuke the drive, install 7, download and install 8 and hope the key in the bios activates it?
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I haven't had to mess between UEFI and Legacy yet so I can't speak on that. I do know that Windows8 comes with Hyper-V (you just have to enable the role) which would allow you to set up a Windows 7 VM. Depending on the resource requirements of the software in question, that might suffice.
As for dual-booting, I stopped doing that years ago in favor of VMs (first VMWare, then VirtualBox, now Hyper-V as an option). I much prefer to have both OS' accessible to me rather than having to shutdown and boot into another.
Before you do anything though, I'd make a full disk image of the system so you can restore it back to current factory config if something goes wrong or if you just want to revert back. I idle in the ##windows IRC channel on freenode and tons of people come in asking for help on how to restore back. If you don't care about all the poopla that came with it from the factory, you can also just make sure you have the following and do a reinstall yourself:
1) the license key of your Windows install
2) the media of the exact OS version that came with the computer (OEM, Pro, Ent, etc), that's the only version the license key will work with
3) Optional: OS drivers for at least the network card of your system so that you can get online and get other drivers as needed (Optional because the odds are good one of the standard drivers that come with Windows 8 will work fine.
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I think Hyper-V is only for the pro version. The product key is now apparently hard coded into the bios for pre-installed machines. I grabbed it anyway using Belarc.
I have the network driver and Samsung have a driver companion piece of software called SW Update that you download to get your installation drivers, so that should be ok too.
The real issue is that having 7 beside 8, rather than the other way around, can stop you booting into either which wouldn't be good. I want have separate installs so that Windows 8 isn't running, which it would be using a VM. I'm not entirely sure I need to do that, but I'd prefer it none the less.
I'll try to install 7 on a partition and see what happens, at least that way the drive will be fairly intact. I'll grab an image of it beforehand to be safe.
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I love listening to you guys.
And we're free.
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Thanks for for mentioning ClassicShell. I was hoping for something like that, and now I don't have to worry about updating to 8.1.
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Windows 8 may look really nice and work really well, but this whole UEFI and Secure boot poo means that it has to go. WTF were/are Microsoft playing at? If they had their way, Windows 8 pre-installed machines would even lock out Linux.
I like it, but I will not be a party to it. Win 8 has to be nuked and Secure boot disabled.
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Oh dwell. :D
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Oh dwell. :D
I'll now have to buy a Surface just to have those pretty "Charms".
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Hehe. And to add to the Windows delight going on, next week I'll be attending a "Securing Windows and Resisting Malware" SANS class hosted here where I work. Weeee.
http://www.sans.org/course/securing-windows
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I was thinking of jacking the SATA in favour of a SSD. They are about the same in price now and I believe modern versions have longer lifespans.
This way I could keep the original disk with Win 8 and play around with Win 7 on an SSD that would boot in seconds.
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I was thinking of jacking the SATA in favour of a SSD. They are about the same in price now and I believe modern versions have longer lifespans.
This way I could keep the original disk with Win 8 and play around with Win 7 on an SSD that would boot in seconds.
excellent idea, I still have my original W7 hdd for my laptop somewhere.
Installed a hybrid hdd and away you go
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Windows 7 on the bad boy now and i am more than happy.
Thanks for all the advice as i am certain I made the right choice due to it.
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Microsoft sucks for locking out other operating systems on Windows 8 machines. I'll never buy one. All the more reason to build your own.
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::) + you dont get the manufacturers load of tosh installed as well.
Ubuntu found a way around the Windows 8 restriction
I will await W9 to see how that runs
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Yeah, I'll install Windows 9 Preview on one of my hard drives but I bet new machines with it installed will still have SecureBoot and you won't be able to install other operating systems. Ubuntu does have a work around for dual booting with Windows 8. I'll build a computer before buying one of those monopoly machines.
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I didn't know it did that. The one thing that I did notice is that when I installed Win 8 to dual boot with Win 7, it disabled the Win 7 authorization patch I was using. It was easy enough to fix, but it seems their anti-piracy efforts are now backward compatible.
I didn't know that all other OSes are locked out, though.
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I didn't know it did that. The one thing that I did notice is that when I installed Win 8 to dual boot with Win 7, it disabled the Win 7 authorization patch I was using. It was easy enough to fix, but it seems their anti-piracy efforts are now backward compatible.
I didn't know that all other OSes are locked out, though.
I think you can butcher your way around UEFI 2.2 and Secure Boot to have Win 8 and other OSes installed, it just appears that there are no guarantees that the set ups will ever work. It seems odd with such advanced technology that some things remain hit and miss.
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I don't dual boot anymore or I'd test it out. I believe my work desktop is UEFI (not sure about the secure boot) but I'm running Win2k12 Server on it.
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Windows 7 dual boots with Windows 8 no problem, although if I remember correctly I had to run a fix using the Win 7 repair disc to replace some of the boot files, but I assumed that had to do with the detection of pirated OS files rather than just run of the mill "disable anything that isn't Windows 8" behavior.
Fortunately, I have a separate old 32GB SSD I've been using for my very occasional Linux use so I don't worry about dual booting that.
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Each OS installs it's own boot loader and dumps all over the previous one so haven't to "repair" the bootloader to show the other available OS to boot to is normal. For occasional Linux use, you could just use a Linux Live CD and run it that way.
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I can't believe how many people ring me up and ask how to get shot of Windows 8. That whole secure boot things has a lot to answer for. I think a less aggressive approach may have given the OS a fighting chance, but like with most things, if you try and ram it down people's throats they tend to get a little irritated.
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Disable UEFI and enable legacy boot, install Win 7?
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Disable UEFI and enable legacy boot, install Win 7?
good choise.
isnt or wasnt there a optional update to install the classic desktop look.
Alternatively install linux ;)
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You might also have to disable the Fast Boot system that's hidden in a System Settings screen under Power Options.
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Windows really doesnt like you messing with their kit.
Funny though, when you go to buy a laptop, unless its an Apple, Windows is always installed.
sort of a forced monopoly almost.
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It isn't really about Microsoft's software, it was about them having the hardware set to suit them. The OS and the computer should remain 2 separate entities while it isn't MS manufacturing the the latter.
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You can buy laptops with Linux (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=linux+laptop&N=-1&isNodeId=1) installed. Even Dell makes a couple.
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You "can" but you'd have to purposefully look for them and/or force the sales tech into admitting it. You should also be able to finagle it to get no OS at all. I wouldn't know though since the only laptops I've used are from work (and running whatever I decide to put on them) and the only desktops I've owned are Franken-puters (I buy the parts and assemble it myself).
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You can also buy Windows 8 without buying a computer. However, you would have to keep it in a locked box to stop it from copulating with any nearby hardware.
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You can buy laptops with Linux (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=linux+laptop&N=-1&isNodeId=1) installed. Even Dell makes a couple.
You "can" but you'd have to purposefully look for them and/or force the sales tech into admitting it. You should also be able to finagle it to get no OS at all. I wouldn't know though since the only laptops I've used are from work (and running whatever I decide to put on them) and the only desktops I've owned are Franken-puters (I buy the parts and assemble it myself).
In the UK they are hard to find,overpriced or crap.
Be nice to be offered a laptop with nothing on or choose the O/S.
Microsoft have bought the pc to the masses and we should be grateful for that.
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In the UK they are hard to find,overpriced or crap.
Be nice to be offered a laptop with nothing on or choose the O/S.
Microsoft have bought the pc to the masses and we should be grateful for that.
Funny that considering most linux distros are free.
The first eee's shipped with a custom linux distro.
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::) i agree, for some reason they build the laptop with so high a spec it could run the entire world, then say hey it runs on linux buy me at a incredulous price.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Laptops-Linux-Computers-Accessories/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=n%3A429886031%2Cp_n_operating_system_browse-bin%3A182778031 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Laptops-Linux-Computers-Accessories/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=n%3A429886031%2Cp_n_operating_system_browse-bin%3A182778031)
a quick search.
They dont realise a lower spec laptop would suffice
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I've just bought myself one of these off Ebay for around £350:
http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/business/business-products/notebook-pc/series-7/XE700T1A-A03HK
Mine ships with Win8
Can't be arsed with Android tablets any more. They rarely compete with my phone anyhow.
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I've just bought myself one of these off Ebay for around £350:
http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/business/business-products/notebook-pc/series-7/XE700T1A-A03HK
Mine ships with Win8
Can't be arsed with Android tablets any more. They rarely compete with my phone anyhow.
That's nice.
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8) Intel i5, noice.
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8) Intel i5, noice.
NO, very nice. :D
you got fed up with Android ? I have only just returned to it.Funny old game inst it.Love the way you can Theme it ( as long as your careful with what you install)
will your children end up with this one Smokes ;D
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NO, very nice. :D
you got fed up with Android ? I have only just returned to it.Funny old game inst it.Love the way you can Theme it ( as long as your careful with what you install)
will your children end up with this one Smokes ;D
I bought an Archos Gamepad (http://www.archos.com/img/products/themed/gamepad/Power-to-Play.jpg) for each of them for crimbo, and so far they haven't put them down. They both had Android tablets and I have 2 myself which makes 6 in total in the house. I can't remember the last time I picked one up as my S3 is faster than them and is always on hand. It makes what I have already pretty redundant so I wanted a tablet I could really use like a computer and that Slate device ticked most of the boxes.
It's due on Saturday morning and I intend to see what games it will run which I find is a good way to tax a device. I'll report back when I know its limits.
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It has Intel HD Graphics 3000, I had that on a desktop and it ran most games well on medium settings. 4GB of memory should suffice.
HD i5 2467M Review (http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/?gid=560&graphics=HD%20i5%202467M)
HD i5 2467M is specific version of Intel HD 3000 graphics that is built into the 'Intel Core i5 2467M' processor. You can only play most of the latest games like Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 3, Saints Row The Third, Battlefield 3, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim on the lowest settings, but you might experience a small lag. Less demanding games will run from medium to high settings.
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If available run AnTuTu benchmark gives you lots of info of tablet.
You do get ( i assume) a pretty good basic edition of office. loved it and do miss it.
Sync's calenders and office to your pc.
well reviewed. Have Fun ;D ;D
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Big day today smokes, hope your tablet turns up.
I am surprised that as yet, everything i have ordered from http://www.aliexpress.com/ (http://www.aliexpress.com/) has turned up.. :) not that i expect anything to the worse but, opposite end of the earth, China and such. :)
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I spoke to the seller yesterday and he said he'd shipped earlier that day and not Thursday as originally planned. That means I'd get it on Monday at the earliest.
Probably not a bad thing as I have a lot of other things to attend to.
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Probably not a bad thing as I have a lot of other things to attend to.
a little teeny weeny disappointed though. I would be ;D
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a little teeny weeny disappointed though. I would be ;D
I know, I have Monday off and then it's back to the grindstone. This weekend would have been a perfect time to set it up how I want.
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The machine doesn't arrive until today as apparently there were issues with transport from Preston to here, so it wasn't dispatched until Monday night.
Just as well as I'm nearly "over it"...
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Just as well as I'm nearly "over it"...
why dont i believe you ;D ;D
I am surprised that as yet, everything i have ordered from http://www.aliexpress.com/ (http://www.aliexpress.com/) has turned up.. :) not that i expect anything to the worse but, opposite end of the earth, China and such. :)
want to look at this usb hdd, works on my phone and tablet ;)
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want to look at this usb hdd, works on my phone and tablet ;)
I have an "on the go" lead and I can use my existing USB keys with it for my phone and tablets. I can also plug in my external HDDs if I need to bounce 5 or 10GB off my SD quickly.
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Hows the Samsung then ?
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Well.. the Samsung shipped with Windows 8.1 which I thought I'd use if only to keep Dweez happy. Unfortunately, trying to install all the software I wanted it to have so I could really have a mobile office, was incredibly problematic.
SQL server 2005 was just a madam and threw out compatibility issues left, right and centre. MS accounting (which relies of SQL server) installed but shut down as soon as you tried to load a database. There were other things that I got to install and run, but the process was far more tricky than it should have been.
Right now I have installed Win 7 in an attempt to be able to clone the setup I have on the laptop I bought. Apart from the hardware everything is identical so I'm hopeful the the downgrade will allow me to use the tablet how I intended.
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Don't try to make me happy, you're the one that has to use it. I just say don't dismiss Win8.1 out of hand. If you try it and don't like it (for legitimate reasons of course), then don't use it.
A couple questions. What is MS Accounting? I googled it and got a bunch of unrelated hits. Also, why use MS SQL 2005? It's fairly old. Could MS Accounting use the lightweight Windows DB app (previously called SQL Express...can't remember the current name)? SQL server is a pisser to maintain anyway even before you take into account how easy it is to misconfigure it and make it a vector for exploits.
Again though, you're the one that has to use the device on a day-to-day basis. Use what makes you most productive and happy. Right now here at work, I have an OS X box, a Ubuntu box, and a Windows 2012 R2 box sitting in front of me. :D
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What is MS Accounting?
Sorry. I was referring to MS Office Accounting 2009. It was defunct shortly afterwards and given away free and it is actually one of the better accountancy programs. It ships with SQL express 2005 but that wouldn't run as intended on Win 8. I uninstalled both and then installed SQL Server 2008 and then the accounting software but got the same glitch. There is a lot about this error on other platforms so I'm not out of the wood. However, it runs perfectly on another setup I use so I'm hoping I can just mimic it.
This particular object has been driving me nuts over the last few months.
[Seemingly] All of the defaults that I have relied on over the last decade or so in 2003 and then 2008 have been changed, so instead of using a plain vanilla out of the box set up, I have been forced to configure nearly everything back to what used to be standard, and to add spice everything has moved from where it used to be so finding out where to set those things is an adventure.
This has been a source of much excitement, and has led to the use of several choice phrases.
And why aren't you fixing my technical woes? Just a wave of the hand for you, I'd wager.
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Hehe, yes, the Server Manager is quite a shift. I'm forcing myself to use it as much as possible as it seems MS plans to stick with it for quite sometime. So I Windows 2012 my default desktop OS so I can hopefully learn through osmosis (It's still osmosis when I'm slamming my head into the monitor, right?).
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Now how are you going to learn from that?
It would learn me my place.
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Everything is hunky dory now using Win7. I can now bill customers on the move.
I feel the urge to invoice someone...but who?
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Double Post!
You could have mentioned I used "defunked" on the last page when I meant "defunct". That was far more a sin than a double post.
The Samsung Tablet is performing far better than it should and/or I'd expected. Why can I run virtually any game on it when it has such low graphic memory?
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I thought that was irony, like "fickst".
I'm at it again. I meant to say I wrote "debunked" which really was a clanger.
So far I've installed D&D Dragonshard, Torchlight 2 and Drakensang. All run flawlessly even at medium settings. I about to try Risen and Silverfall.
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you could run a country off that tablet, in the end everyone plays games on them ;)
me too ;D ;D
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you could run a country off that tablet, in the end everyone plays games on them ;)
me too ;D ;D
So far the only game that wouldn't run was Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, and that's too scary for me anyway.
I rolled it back to before I tried all the bashed games on it, and now I'll use it more professionally as intended. However, St Lucia is only 5 weeks away and I'll need something to entertain me on the plane..
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movie and of course games ;D ;D
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However, St Lucia is only 5 weeks away
Ooohhh... sweet.