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Re: Massachusetts Sen. Ted Kennedy dead at 77
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2009, 10:38:14 AM »
I wasn't saying I had a problem with his personal foibles - in fact, I could care less about most of them (tho' causing someone's death through your negligence is pretty hard to get around...).

But we live in a country where sex/drugs/vice scandal trumps all else.

After all, we are the country that impeached a president for a blowjob and didn't impeach the one that started an illegal war

My assessment of people is always governed by their intention, and it is my opinion that he did not intend for the woman to die, but it was his intention to use his voice and influence to stop wars and conflicts, where hundreds, even thousands of innocent people in some cases, would die or be injured unnecessarily - that is the inescapable fact for me.

I totally agree that something is wrong when scandal and misadventure is the yardstick by which not only your country measures the worth of a politician/person in general, but I do feel that it is the public that gives that phenomenon credence in the first place so they only have themselves to blame.  That's why referendums wouldn't work any better..
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Re: Massachusetts Sen. Ted Kennedy dead at 77
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2009, 02:34:42 PM »
I cant say its our country that revels in scandal as such,, but more our media.
 What IS sad is that most in this country let the media think for them. 
We still have this cary over from the 50s that if its on the news its "true".
I keep my standards low.
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Re: Massachusetts Sen. Ted Kennedy dead at 77
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2009, 04:27:55 PM »
I cant say its our country that revels in scandal as such,, but more our media.
 What IS sad is that most in this country let the media think for them. 
We still have this cary over from the 50s that if its on the news its "true".

Just reading my comment back and I can see some ambiguity in the way I wrote it.  When I say: " not only your country", I mean the concept of trying to influence opinion by mud slinging is not reserved for use in the U.S.A - it seems to be the staple diet of the Press here too these days.
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Re: Massachusetts Sen. Ted Kennedy dead at 77
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2009, 07:58:49 PM »
The media controls too much.
I think I saw something like this in films from the 40s.
They were hard to understand, since they were in German.
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