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The Souths Gonna Rise Again!
« on: December 07, 2009, 09:13:06 PM »

OKLAHOMA MAY JUST BE THE PLACE TO LIVE!


An update from Oklahoma :

Oklahoma law passed, 37 to 9, had a few liberals in the mix, an amendment to place the Ten Commandments on the front entrance to the state capitol.  The feds in D.C., along with the ACLU, said it would be a mistake.  Hey this is a conservative state, based on Christian values...!  HB 1330

                Guess what.......... Oklahoma did it anyway.

Oklahoma recently passed a law in the state to incarcerate all illegal immigrants, and ship them back to where they came from unless they want to get a green card and become an American citizen.  They all scattered.  HB 1804.  Hope we didn't send any of them to your state.  This was against the advice of the Federal Government, and the ACLU, they said  it would be a mistake.

                Guess what.......... Oklahoma did it anyway.

Recently we passed a law to include DNA samples from any and all illegals to the Oklahoma database, for criminal investigative purposes.  Pelosi said it was unconstitutional.  SB 1102

                Guess what........ Oklahoma  did it anyway.

Several weeks ago, we passed a law, declaring Oklahoma as a Sovereign state, not under the Federal Government directives.  Joining  Texas, Montana and Utah as the only states to do so.  More states are likely to follow:  Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, the Carolina's, Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri, Arkansas, West Virginia, Mississippi, Florida.  Save your confederate money, it appears the South is about to rise up once again.  HJR 1003

The federal Government has made bold steps to take away our guns.  Oklahoma, a week ago, passed a law confirming people in this state have the right to bear arms and transport them in their vehicles.  I'm sure that was a set back for the criminals (and Obamaites).  Liberals didn't like it --  But ...

                Guess what........... Oklahoma did it anyway.

Just this month, my state has voted and passed a law that ALL driver's license exams will be printed in English, and only English, and no other language.  We have been called racist for doing this, but the fact is that ALL of our road signs are in English only.  If you want to drive in Oklahoma, you must read and write English.  Really simple.

By the way, Obama does not like any of this.

                Guess what....who cares... Oklahoma is doing it anyway.

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http://newsok.com/oklahoma-state-capitol-to-display-ten-commandments/article/3370730
http://newsok.com/oklahoma-state-capitol-to-display-ten-commandments/article/3370730
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-01-09-immigcover_N.htm
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Re: The Souths Gonna Rise Again!
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2009, 09:42:25 PM »
When in Rome is all i have to say really,if we go abroad,we have to live by the country's laws and speak their tounge,so they can damn well speak English,lazy hillbillys.
  Though im glad i don't live in the US,i'd like to visit,but it's too religious for me,and you can't slag off the president.
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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2009, 11:30:49 AM »
OKLAHOMA MAY JUST BE THE PLACE TO LIVE!


An update from Oklahoma :

Oklahoma law passed, 37 to 9, had a few liberals in the mix, an amendment to place the Ten Commandments on the front entrance to the state capitol.  The feds in D.C., along with the ACLU, said it would be a mistake.  Hey this is a conservative state, based on Christian values...!  HB 1330

                Guess what.......... Oklahoma did it anyway.

Oklahoma recently passed a law in the state to incarcerate all illegal immigrants, and ship them back to where they came from unless they want to get a green card and become an American citizen.  They all scattered.  HB 1804.  Hope we didn't send any of them to your state.  This was against the advice of the Federal Government, and the ACLU, they said  it would be a mistake.

                Guess what.......... Oklahoma did it anyway.


They need to come to Heavener Oklahoma. Its called little Mexico for a reason.
As for them wanting to come and have a better life,, they raised the crime there with alot of drugs and gang violence.
As of this writing, the local police wont do a dmn thing about the Hispanics beating up schoolchildren just for speaking English.
 
OKLAHOMA MAY JUST BE THE PLACE TO LIVE!


Recently we passed a law to include DNA samples from any and all illegals to the Oklahoma database, for criminal investigative purposes.  Pelosi said it was unconstitutional.  SB 1102

                Guess what........ Oklahoma  did it anyway.


Nancy Pelosi doesnt have a credible record anyway.
After her writing the bailout bill with alot of money going to pet projects for her freinds and other people sucking her ass, she decided to start alot of problems with the CIA,, then when caught in a lie denied saying anything. When the video of her saying it was shown to her she declared it was a CIA trick.
 Later, to stop the fallout from that, she went to Southern California and said to a room full of Illegals that THEY were the TRUE AMERICANS!
When the tape of this was shown,, she was nowhere in sight to make a comment.
Her sending millions of dollars for birth control to a third world nation was questioned,,and all her responce was is that " it will help".
 The money never made it to them.
 Nancy Pelosi is a moron.
As for being put in the database,, GOOD!!!!!!
They tend to go by five or six differant names anyway. Maybe now they can be caught for the crimes they commit.

OKLAHOMA MAY JUST BE THE PLACE TO LIVE!


Several weeks ago, we passed a law, declaring Oklahoma as a Sovereign state, not under the Federal Government directives.  Joining  Texas, Montana and Utah as the only states to do so.  More states are likely to follow:  Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, the Carolina's, Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri, Arkansas, West Virginia, Mississippi, Florida.  Save your confederate money, it appears the South is about to rise up once again.  HJR 1003

The federal Government has made bold steps to take away our guns.  Oklahoma, a week ago, passed a law confirming people in this state have the right to bear arms and transport them in their vehicles.  I'm sure that was a set back for the criminals (and Obamaites).  Liberals didn't like it --  But ...

                Guess what........... Oklahoma did it anyway.


Oklahoma is just following the US constitution, which Bush/Cheney made illegal to know ( due to the patriot act) and Obama doesnt want us to know.
 Obama has been skating on alot of thin ice lately. His " change you can believe in" and his " transparency" policy are,, for lack of a better term, cowpoo.
 His agenda IS online,, but never where he says it is.
His change ,, well, its nothing any real American can believe in. I dont think America wants to be socialist.
 As for the gun thing,, Oklahoma has alot of people who hunt.
I for onhe am an avid outdoorsman.
I go every hunting season ( all six of them) and fill my freezer with fresh meat.
Its cheaper, and healthier for you . ( The FDA has so many chemicals put into meats that its causing alot of illnesses).
 As for transporting them,, its a little hard to mail your gun to the place your hunting at.
 Obama wants every fire arm destroyed.
I can kinda see his point,,except that it takes away our freedom to defend ourselves from enemies foreign and domestic. Of which trully america has plenty of both.
If the policwe here were as responsive and did their jobs like they do in the UK,, maybe we wouldnt need a gun for home protection.
But do to liberal thinking ( hear me Obama?) our police wont/cant arrest someone unless they catch them in the commision of a crime unless its murder, then they need too much evidence.
As it is, they need a federal court mandate to get a search warrant in Oklahoma.
Many of us live in rural areas, and it takes the police up to 20 minutes to make it to your home. By  that time your dead and the perp is long gone.
If its after hours ( yes, our police station closes) you have to wait till maybe the next day.
We can argue about this,, byut unless your a victim of a violent crime,, you wont understand.
Another thing about Obama,, in the constitution,, we have the rights for state militias,,not to mention, if the people dont like what a president is doing,, they can opver throw him by force of arms,, it was a way for checks and ballances back when the constitution was drafted.
Obama is afraid of that, and this gun law he wants is his insurance.
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Just this month, my state has voted and passed a law that ALL driver's license exams will be printed in English, and only English, and no other language.  We have been called racist for doing this, but the fact is that ALL of our road signs are in English only.  If you want to drive in Oklahoma, you must read and write English.  Really simple.

By the way, Obama does not like any of this.

                Guess what....who cares... Oklahoma is doing it anyway.


About time,, when in Rome,, you do as the Romans do.
We have to speak the native language of any other country,, they need to speak ours.
 We make too much concessions to others, and ignore our own.
 Obama doesnt like it? He can get used to disapointment for once.
He wasnt a politician,, he was a community activist.
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Re: The Souths Gonna Rise Again!
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2009, 04:18:36 PM »
We have to speak the native language of any other country,, they need to speak ours.

Would that be an Iroquoian language?

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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2009, 06:35:48 PM »
Nice remark,,,you know what I mean.lol
In the same sense,, wouldnt you guys be speaking Pictish?

The only reason that English isnt the national language here is because of Mexico's involvement.
They dont let anyone else but themselves have a say in thier govornmental proceedings,, but they will lobby in the US.
Look up the Compean and Ramos cases where Mexico lobbyed ( sp) against their release during the Bush/Cheney regime.
 They lobby now against a wall seperating the US and Mexico because it makes them feel "unwelcome" here.
They are also lobbying against us having a border with them and want to obolish the border completely for them to cross with impunity,, but we cant cross to there.
 
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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2009, 07:21:14 PM »
Nice remark,,,you know what I mean.
In the same sense,, wouldnt you guys be speaking Pictish?

Nope, British 

My previous comment (about the Iroquoian language) was meant to be tongue-in-cheek BTW, I apologise if you found offence.

And anyone found to be in a country illegally should be deported back to their original country, not have their DNA stored on a criminal database. That is, unless every American (or Brit for that matter) has their DNA stored, then police would know immediately who committed a crime which had DNA left at the scene.




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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2009, 07:56:40 PM »
The south will rise again, and they will be put down again, like the traitorous dogs they are.

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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2009, 10:27:42 AM »
This crap has left me speechless.

And for the record I have never met a Brit or an American for that matter, who wasn't completely frustrated when the locals in any non English speaking country couldn't understand English - in fact, contrary to what Gee said the English are famous for outright refusing to speak another language when abroad.  It is elitism at its very worst.
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2009, 10:48:12 AM »
Nah! Smokes,that's not every English person,just some.
  I'd love to speak other languages.

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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2009, 10:59:46 AM »
Nah! Smokes,that's not every English person,just some.
  I'd love to speak other languages.

I'm afraid I have travelled extensively and it is unfortunately a well documented phenomenon:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE5AC1LF20091113
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2009, 11:03:23 AM »
Oh!  I agree,but that doesn't include me,i love and am fascinated by other dialects,even dead ones.
  Syrian Aramaic is spoken by only a few nomadic tribes,but i'd love to learn it.

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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2009, 11:45:07 AM »
The south will rise again, and they will be put down again, like the traitorous dogs they are.

The confederate flag is an enemy flag.

Read your history .
And your just too confrontational.You must be a Yankee, lmao( Humor ,,laugh)
Nope, British 

My previous comment (about the Iroquoian language) was meant to be tongue-in-cheek BTW, I apologise if you found offence.

And anyone found to be in a country illegally should be deported back to their original country, not have their DNA stored on a criminal database. That is, unless every American (or Brit for that matter) has their DNA stored, then police would know immediately who committed a crime which had DNA left at the scene.




Oh I know,, no prob,, just me and my dry sense of humore and my sarcastic nature lmao.
 As for the DVA Database here in the US, its a collection of DNA collected from criminals.
 Being an illegal alien in America is a crime. There is no such thing as "undocumented citizens". You have to be a citizen before you can become undocumented.

This crap has left me speechless.

And for the record I have never met a Brit or an American for that matter, who wasn't completely frustrated when the locals in any non English speaking country couldn't understand English - in fact, contrary to what Gee said the English are famous for outright refusing to speak another language when abroad.  It is elitism at its very worst.

The frustration is usualy with myself for NOT speaking the language
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2009, 06:06:53 PM »
As for the DVA Database here in the US, its a collection of DNA collected from criminals.
 Being an illegal alien in America is a crime.

I suspect their motivation for gaining illegal entry to the US is more desperation than criminal intent. And I'm sure we've all done something technically illegal. Such as speeding, jumping a red light or maybe illegal downloads?


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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2009, 07:10:55 PM »
When its easier for a Hispanic to come into this contry legaly than any other?
 Im not racist,, my soon to be step daughter is half black, and my ex wife was part.
 But,, the Mexican population came here and brought alot of gang violence.
I live five miles from a town with a very high ( or used to be) illegal population.
The drug problem here escalated, as did gang violence.
We as Americans have no problem with imigration here, just do it legaly. And intigrate into America society.
 Most Hispanics, when they do know how to speak English, refuse to.
The typical response when caught doing something is " I speak no English". I guess they teach them thats a free pass to get away with things.
Most police wont even investigate a crime commited by an illegal.
As for the Hispanic population, they are " protected" by the laws of the United States. If they do something to you, its no big deal, but even defending yourself against one thats an attacker is a hate crime with a penalty of up to five years in prison.
 I thought being in America was to be an equal to Americans.
I guess not anymore ( no wonder I want out of this mess of a country)
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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2009, 02:33:03 AM »
In this country we refer to them as "economic migrants" which are mainly eastern Europeans, but unlike the US, we do not note any discernable difference bertween "them" and "us" and anybody born into poverty would and should aspire to make their lives better.  If that means that they climb on the back of the nations that created the inequality in the first place - then so be it, I most certainly would.  These people you refer to Robin to not get the state hand-outs that migrants here do (mostly by duplicitious means), and the people here that mirror this standard rhetoric of the average US citizens towards "Hispanics", are, the BNP (and you know all about them from being here).

I personally welcome the diversity of other cultures and used to be glad that our country strove to incorporate migrants both economic and political (and the occasional American that wanted to defect) as it is not their fault for wanting a better life.  But I will agree that solid and workable systems should be established so that the genuine cases can be separated from the "chancers" - but that still means that tolerance is the order of the day.

Some of the idealogy that comes out of the US regarding immigrants - ironically means that to be consistent all the white folk should leave and it should be given back to the Native Americans.
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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2009, 11:04:08 AM »
Many get state aid through duplicious means also. California was broken by this.
Myself I dont disagree with imigration, as long as its done legaly.
Most of the problem America faces here is the fact that many businesses take advantage of the illegal immigrant by firing citizens and hiring illegals for a fraction of what they would normaly pay.
 It has drivin our wages down to comparatively record lows in many places.
 There have been alot of rhetoric from the pro illegal camp that they are only doing jobs that Americans wont do.
Truth is,, no one wants to work for 4 dollars an hour.
Sorry,, its a sad fact, we cant afford it.
 Businesses have taken away benifits and lowered working standards since an illegal , ( economic migrant) , has no one to report it to else they are deported.
 Many of the Hispanic population are from the northern border of Mexico which is pretty crime ridden ( look for the Zeta Drug Cartel). And many bring the crime with them.
I have nothing against a multi-cultural nation,, a country is judged by its people. well,, partly anyway.
Mexico has allways been ( well northern Mexico) a depressed country due to a crooked govornment ( yes guys, its worse than ours).
So they come here looking for work and oportunities.
The hard thing to deal with is that our govornment has helped them more than they have helped us.
We have our problems too ,, lots of them. but they are ignored in favor of making an illegal into a citizen, or giving them benifits they cant legaly have.
 With upwards to 20 million illegal aliens from Mexico alone,, its getting rough.
 Not to mention the La Raza activist group claiming they WILL take back the American Southwest, and how they are the true Americans and this and that .
It causes alot of bad feelings in a country that still has alot of racial tension.
 Yes,, they deserve every oportunity afforded them,, but they need to do it legaly.
 Where a citizen cant get benifits,, an ilegal can. Oklahoma State University has made it where an ilegal can go to college there for free,, but citizens are dropping out due to the high cost of tuition.
 Right now,, no more than five miles away from me,, there is a town called Heavener Oklahoma ( im sure someone will google it,, ) that has been taken over by a large Hispanic population.
Right now, an American child is probably being beaten up for being white.
Its happening alot there.
 Americans have been threatened with physical violence for not being Hispanic.
Its true, and since these doing it are ilegal imigrants, the police cant, or wont, do anything about it.
 I have nothing against any nationality,, I believe we should all be viewed as equals. But if I have to go through the legalities just to VISIT a country,, the least they can do is go through SOME legalities to live here.
 As for the BNP,,, dont put me in the same league as those NAZI wannabes.
 I dont hate anyone. My ex was part black,, my future step daughter is part, and im multi ethnic myself ( Apache , Scots and German)
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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2009, 01:58:24 PM »
All of the issues you mention are exactly the same problems the UK has along with France, Germany and many other countries.  This difference is we have migrants from Eastern Europe, Africa, Asia etc, that are both looking to escape poverty and political oppression. The latter grants you asylum and the former grants you a ticket home so the trick is to pose as a political refugee no matter where you come from.

But apart from the debate as it could go on forever without proving much, it is the attitude demonstrated towards a fellow man at the beginning of this thread that I find alarming (some of which is shown to be incorrect on Snopes), as most of it sounds like something Nick Griffin would think up.

I can tell you that the vast amount of people that leech off the state here, are not only home grown but are usually pretty well off to begin with.  Then you have the chavs, druggies, alcoholics and a whole array of other people that complain about the Polish people here breaking their backs for ?3 an hour, although they refuse to work themselves because they find the pay inadequate (even though it would be double what the Poles earn) or they find the work "degrading".

To be frank, I find it all quite demoralising.
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« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2009, 02:41:45 PM »
Face it,, the world is going to Hell in a handbag.
 Truth is, each of our contries have problems that need solved before we can solves the problems of others.
 We cant help others till we help ourselves.
America ,, along with the UK has taken on too many of the owrlds problems and tried to help too many outside of its borders. Before anyone can be helped, the internal problems need fixing.
I dont think its so much the people, as the sytem that has broken down.
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« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2009, 03:09:31 PM »
It is not really true that we have a problem in the UK at the moment regardless of what scaremongers like the BNP would have you believe, as we may have had 590,000 new immigrants in the past year, but the UK has also had a record breaking 427,000 people leave.
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« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2009, 03:45:47 PM »
Our imigration system is broken. And no one knows how to fix it.
 If we do one thing, its too radical,, another its not good enough,, so alot of states are choosing one of the two evils.
 Like I said,, im all for legal imigration,, alot in the US are.
Our main problem are companies that refuse to hire citizens and want to hire illegals so they can pay alot less and still jack up prices.
 Im nothing like whats his nutz with the BNP,, hes just a wacko with an insade Hitler like agenda.
 But untill alot that want the illegals out of America realize that the companies shipping them in are ALSO at fault ( more so than the Hispanic population flooding our borders) the sooner the problem can be fixed.
Work VISAs are not hard to get when you come to Mexico.

But for sake of peace Smokey,, lets just say we see diferent ends of the spectrum.
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« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2009, 12:40:32 AM »

 Im not racist,, my soon to be step daughter is half black
 
Wow Robin! This is the first I've heard about a "soon to be." Can we take this comment as an unofficial "Engagement/pre-wedding" announcement? Do tell more. Who is the lucky lady? Where and how did you meet her? Any pictures of the soon to be Mrs. Graves? The cats out of the bag! So give it up babe!

On a totally different note... I just found out that my lineage makes me eligible to join the "Daughters of the Confederacy."  If I lived in the South, it might interest me, but being "100% California Girl" I'd probably turn their blue blood green with pink polka-dots just by applying.
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« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2009, 01:27:54 PM »
So i've heard scientists believe when our population reaches 10.000,000,000,something catastrophic will happen.
  In my opinion it's speculation,but a scientist friend of mine says the Earth's capable of holding 10,000,000,and obviously chaos will ensue.
  Our current population is 6,803,146,095.

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« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2009, 01:40:34 PM »
"Daughters of the Confederacy" are a bunch of elitist wanabes.
I know some, and I wouldnt wipe my dirty shoes off on then.

As for who the future " Mrs. Graves".
Um,, shes a member here, hasnt been able to be on,, but shes who I went to visit in Scotland back in mid octobre to mid november.
Read the posting " I finaly made it".
I have to say shes a wonderfull human being,, and I wish I had met her 20 years ago, alot of crap in my life wouldnt have happened.

Now,, back on subject.
As for the imigration problem,, we in America do have it pretty bad with the amount of illegal imigration.
 12 to 20 MILLION just from Mexico alone.
 The imigration problem in california alone broke the state financialy.
Its not all the imigrants fault,, admmited,,they are just looking for a better way of life.
BUT on that hand,, watching the marches and protests by the Hispanic communities AGAINST Americans citizens DOES get old.
 Seeing them waving the flag of Mexico here in America while demonstrating against America is getting VERY old.
 The Mexican govornment handed out pamphlets telling Mexican citizens to sneak into America, and how to do it, was kinda ,,well, odd.
 If they would put as much effort into fixing their own domestic problems as they put into protesting, rallying and demonstrating here in America, maybe thier own problems would have been fixed.
 But on the other hand,, if American businesses werent addicted to greed and coruption, they wouldnt take advantage of a poorer people from a poorer country.
Why do they have to hire an America ( a SINGLE SOLITARY American) when they can hire 2 or 3 illegal imigrants for the same price? Oh, and not pay taxes or unemployment insurance at the same time?
Or improve unsafe working conditions, pay overtime, or even have a single benifit?
 Not to mention, cheap labor like this helps the higher ups and the owners make more money, which they can contribute to politicians campaigns .
AND these politicians , when elected, can ignore the law and policies of imigration in America so the company owners can keep operating.
So, no Smokey,, im not blaming a race for this, not entirely.
 The fault also lies with Americans.
AND,, no matter what action we take,, someone will demonize us for it.
So i've heard scientists believe when our population reaches 10.000,000,000,something catastrophic will happen.
  In my opinion it's speculation,but a scientist friend of mine says the Earth's capable of holding 10,000,000,and obviously chaos will ensue.
  Our current population is 6,803,146,095.
Hmmm,,,,clocks are a tickin'
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« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2009, 01:49:07 PM »
So i've heard scientists believe when our population reaches 10.000,000,000,something catastrophic will happen.
  In my opinion it's speculation,but a scientist friend of mine says the Earth's capable of holding 10,000,000,and obviously chaos will ensue.
  Our current population is 6,803,146,095.

If the world chose to it could half the population in a generation, and when it comes to it that's what will happen but it won't stop people complaining that they should be able to have 14 kids if they want to.
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« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2009, 03:27:02 PM »
I've also read in a scientific book that the population will decrease by the late 21st century.

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« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2009, 06:30:23 PM »
If people like Octomom still exist by then, they will be sorely disapointed.
 You know, thats something I dont understand,, someone that thinks its their sacred duty to repopulate the world.
Geez,, I have one child, and my fiance has four,, isnt that enough?
 There is a owman here in my town that thinks that she has to pop out a youngun' every year so she can stay on financial aid from the state for the rest of her life.
One woman here has had ten kids and is pregnant again, the state told her no more,, now shes suing because she says its her business whether she has kids or not.
Personaly, when people like her keep popping them out I think it becomes everyones business since they are the ones footing the bill.
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« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2009, 11:21:43 PM »
Unfortunately I am not good with US politics,so can somebody make simple compilation to me,why Oklahoma tries
again made own laws without caring federation laws.
i'm waiting for someone to start an antisocial networking site.


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« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2009, 12:12:29 PM »
Before President Lincoln ( who declared an illegal war against the Southern States) , America was pretty different. Each state was a seperate entity answerable to the American Capital.
They had thier own laws ( many the same) and pretty much looked after themselves.
The Constitution was set up this way. It was a system of ballances to keep the Federal Govornment from becoming too powerfull.
 When the South seceded ( sp) from the North over economic and political reasons ( they were being screwed by the Northern States) Abraham Lincoln declared war on them for leaving the United States. It was illegaly done and unconstitutional.
 When the war was over, he had united all the states answerable only to the Federal Govornment, and to hell with States Rights.
Now,, these states want their rights to be left alone by a too powerfull and corrupt federal govornment.
The Civil War was NOT over slavery, but over the Northern States screwing the poorer southern states.
The South  had all the raw materials, and was selling them to the North ( who had all the industry) at next to no cost, then the North sold finished goods at highly inflated rates back to the south,, keeping them poor.
 Lincoln saw the south leaving the country and creating their own as a threat to the northern economy,, and being from the north took action.
 There is no law that says that a state cant secceed from the united states.
 Since the war,, to insure that this never happens again, Lincoln united the country under one law, one govornment and one ideology. Therefore the end of states rights under the constitution of the United States Of America.
 No more checks and balances and all the power in the country is in Washington DC.
 States no longer had a say in thier own laws, thier own problems or thier own residents.
 If you look,,many states declaring states rights are states that are ignored by the President,, such as Oklahoma and Texas. We have problems that the federal govornment is ignoring, and now when we take steps to fix a problem, they ignored, they get up in arms.
 This can lead to a bad situation fast if things arent done carefully.
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Re: The Souths Gonna Rise Again!
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2009, 04:48:58 AM »
South's risin' - Bend over!
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2504545/oklahomas_invasive_abortion_law_to.html

secession was an act of war.

Perhaps you've got pugilist dementia from all the aluminum chairs to the head.

I always find claims that "I'm not a racist, I've got black [insert relation here]" to be particularly offensive. Just admit you don't like mexican immigrants.

[Full disclosure: I have a black aunt and black nephew, but I admit that I am a racist.]
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« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2009, 05:29:52 AM »
A womans body's her own bless'ed business. ::)

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« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2009, 12:19:57 PM »
Hey 8ullfrog,,whatever dude,, say what you want,,trash me all you want,, go for it.
You dont know me .
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« Reply #31 on: December 21, 2009, 01:51:19 AM »
What's going on?

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« Reply #32 on: December 21, 2009, 09:56:23 AM »
... and that is, I believe, what we call an "ad hominem" attack - tantamount to shooting the messenger because you don't like the message.

That's choice coming from a man wearing sandals..
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« Reply #33 on: December 21, 2009, 11:18:05 AM »
As far as I know, this is not accurate. Secession was like withdrawing from a trade association, and was  a capability guaranteed to all the States that joined the United States. It just so happened that the leader of those "United" States saw a threat to his organisation from some of the members leaving to create a competitor, so chose to ignore the fact that they were supposed to be allowed to leave.

Exactly,,
The civil war had nothing to do with unification or slavery, it was based on the south becoming a threat to the Norths economic superiority.
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« Reply #34 on: December 27, 2009, 04:24:18 AM »
South started the war by firing the first shots at Sumter.

But the civil war saw the introduction of carbines.

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28559

Between 1800 and 1860, the south saw a radical shift in politics.
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« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2009, 01:36:31 PM »
Do you just hate people you dont know?lol
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« Reply #36 on: December 27, 2009, 04:05:47 PM »
I hate people period Robin.....well most of em,say 99.8%

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« Reply #37 on: December 27, 2009, 04:29:00 PM »
I find the Onions article ( and a couple other things) to be insulting.
 Im a dyed in the wool Southerner in the US, ( ok,, northerner in the UK) and no one is like that in the south.
Were a proud people that held onto what traditions that we were allowed to keep.
You come here and i dare you to find anyone thats like what was insinuated.
 Were a freindly people. And concidering the north has still forgotten us when it comes to any progress,, we make do with what we have, and were good at it.
No,, we dont have what New York has, or the California Mentality,, and to tell the truth,, we dont want it.
We prefer a simple life without the hassles of big city corruption and beurocracy.
And contrary to all belief,, im a typical Southerner,, and im VERY well educated.
I can even count to eleven without unzipping my fly!
AND I never dated a cousin ( ok,, so my ex was my third cousin by mariage, but we didnt know till were were maried for a year) and I never raised pigs ( that neighbor doesnt count, I just thought she was fat and dirty).
 As for barefoot,, beibng barefoot teaches something alot of people need to learn, humility.
 The Southern armies were surendered illegaly,, the general that surendered his army had no legal basis to surender the south.
And maybe we DID fire the first physical shot,, but the North shot first with thier aggresion towards a people that wanted to be free of Northern Economic Tyrany.
 The Civil War is still refered to by many as the War Of Northern Aggression.
 
 
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Re: The Souths Gonna Rise Again!
« Reply #38 on: December 28, 2009, 01:51:10 PM »
I love the Onion,it's superb. :D

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« Reply #39 on: December 28, 2009, 03:55:32 PM »
Funny as hell too, I liked the article about shooting dinosaurs

Of course, I just like shooting things,,
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« Reply #40 on: December 30, 2009, 05:35:55 AM »
War Of Northern Aggression.

Yep, part of the souths problem is that whole mindset, and how they teach the civil war.

I'm not claiming slavery was the only issue that caused the civil war, the south becoming redundant was a HUGE factor, and the fact that the south was unwilling to let go of their antibellum ways are a big factor in why Sherman burned Atlanta. 

Killing southerners didn't get the point across, but burning their poo seems to have made some of them realize that they couldn't hold on to their falsely propped up society.

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« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2009, 06:06:35 AM »
War Of Northern Aggression.

Yep, part of the souths problem is that whole mindset, and how they teach the civil war.

I'm not claiming slavery was the only issue that caused the civil war, the south becoming redundant was a HUGE factor, and the fact that the south was unwilling to let go of their antibellum ways are a big factor in why Sherman burned Atlanta. 

Killing southerners didn't get the point across, but burning their poo seems to have made some of them realize that they couldn't hold on to their falsely propped up society.

Wasn't the "Great migration" a reaction to the oppression of the black community (among other practices and to other people) that still existed halfway through the 20th century in southern America?
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« Reply #42 on: December 30, 2009, 09:15:21 AM »
Wait,, Ok,, I was going to be offended by 8ullfrogs statement,, but then I realized something,, Im a Texan,, Texas didnt have anything to do with the civil war did they?
Hmmm,, sooooo,,,the dispersions on the South are lost upon me like waves on a rocky shore.
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« Reply #43 on: December 30, 2009, 11:33:59 AM »
It's history dude.
  It's like ze Germans were we're concerned. ;D

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« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2009, 02:47:07 PM »
I just think people need to get thier heads out of their asses and quit stereotyping cross sections of society.
 TV and movies arent real.
War Of Northern Aggression.

Yep, part of the souths problem is that whole mindset, and how they teach the civil war.

I'm not claiming slavery was the only issue that caused the civil war, the south becoming redundant was a HUGE factor, and the fact that the south was unwilling to let go of their antibellum ways are a big factor in why Sherman burned Atlanta. 

Killing southerners didn't get the point across, but burning their poo seems to have made some of them realize that they couldn't hold on to their falsely propped up society.

You seem to have alot of issues

And as far as stating earlier that im a racist is well,,, just idiotic.
I find you offensive , and many of your posts seem to be an attack on one or more people here.
I refuses to argue with you anymore,, its pointless.
Thank you all,, if im penalized for stating my opinion,,, its been nice being here..
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« Reply #45 on: December 31, 2009, 02:27:46 AM »
during the civil war, Texas was a confederate supply state.

Texas' main reasons for succession were slave related, but they also had a good bit of white supremacy, X/which is always a good thing. /X

Sam Houston was deposed as governor after refusing to swear an oath to the confederacy.

He could have accepted Lincolns offer of troops, but wanted to avoid bloodshed.

After lee's surrender, texas was a powder keg. Unmotivated and disloyal troops presented a danger to the civilian population of texas.

In June, 1865, the union rolled into texas.

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