Topic: the official "I-got-into-some-poo-last-night" thread

[MisterAJ]

So here's what happened:

I was at the pub, enjoying myself, and it was closing time.
I called a cab for me and a neighbor of mine...
 As I was making the call, this complete stranger (a girl) ran up to me, hid behind my back, and cried for help...

the first two seconds, I was like WTF???, but then I picked up on the fact that her boyfriend had gone apeshit insane,
You know, wanting to beat her up and poo...
Yeah...
THAT kinda poo is REALLY going to fly when I'm around...

First time around I simply grabbed him by the arms and tossed him away...
BTW, I'm 1.78 m (just shy of 6 feet) tall and 75 kilo (160 pounds or something), and not a big brute...
this guy was MUCH shorter than me, and light enough for me to pick up and toss the golly away...
Not gonna do the whole "There was a bunch of ninja-bikers and I kicked all their asses" thing, but FFS, he tried beating on a girl...
no, no, a million times NOOOOOOOOOO

the Bartender, real nice and mellow guy (note that, it has relevance later) came out, shooed him away 3-4 times...
The little prick STILL went gunning for the girl.
at this point I had had enough!
At this point I grabbed him by the collar, picked him of the ground, and pounded him into the floor.
(Told you he wasn't big, but whatever...)
This was enough for him to FINALY realize that he was in deep poo, and needed to move the golly away...
and he did... about 10-15 feet...
Stood there like a moron, spouting poo like "She's my girlfriend, my possession, my THING THAT I OWN", bla bla bla...
complete bless'ed nitwit...
And at this point, the bartender (mr. nice-and-mellow) was so bless'ed fed up with the little poo-stain that
he nearly ripped his god damn arms of... (Kinda wish he had, would have been epic... LOL)

Eventually, cops came and took him away, and that was the thing that saved his punk ass:

There was half a dozen of us at this point contemplating a trip to the deep, dark allies and a improvised lesson in proper manners...

 

[laama]

Unfortunately nothing new under the sun.

[Skadi]

Unfortunately nothing new under the sun.

^ True 

And he?ll probably find her once he?s out. Or worse, she?ll go begging after him. But it was nice of you to stand up, and stand in AJ. Puny or not, you still might have scraped your knuckles on him.

[laama]

^ True 

And he?ll probably find her once he?s out. Or worse, she?ll go begging after him. But it was nice of you to stand up, and stand in AJ. Puny or not, you still might have scraped your knuckles on him.

I think,that when he is out,he continue this and girl begging him.
Girl protect him and try hide her wounds and lies where they are coming.

[Robin-Graves]

Ive never understood why women are like that.

I got hit on by this biker chick last night at the after show party.
 I had to turn her down ( blatant proposition!), she just looked used. You know what I mean ,,
She was probably hiding from an ex or something.

[Geemonster]

Once i got involved when a guy was beating up his GF and ended up  with them both screaming at me.

[8ullfrog]

Gee, it's a no-win scenario.

[MisterAJ]

Also had that one, Gee...

she just looked used. You know what I mean ,,

She looked like she was at least 20 years older than she actually is..?

[PsPBuRnOuT]

Spoiler (hover to show)

What a ass-Hole, the guy not you AJ

By the way only read the first few lines

Any person that hits out on a women, is no man to me.

S**t 4king Coward is all, & not worth a life, what a waste.

[smokester]

On the 3 occasions that I have intervened in a violent, domestic altercation, I have ended up with more bruises from the girl involved than the fella.  I vowed from then on I would only ever stand between the 2 parties rather that giving the aggressive male a smack.

[PsPBuRnOuT]

On the 3 occasions that I have intervened in a violent, domestic altercation, I have ended up with more bruises from the girl involved that the fella.  I vowed from then on I would only ever stand between the 2 parties rather that giving the aggressive male a smack.

lol

But a very good point & tip m8

[ohcheap1]

Heres a question to add to the mix....What if the woman does the hitting first? Like clobbers him in the head with an aluminum pot say....is she asking for a fight?

[smokester]

Heres a question to add to the mix....What if the woman does the hitting first? Like clobbers him in the head with an aluminum pot say....is she asking for a fight?

Apparently you should never hit the weaker sex.  The problem I have with that equation is that men also come in all shapes and sizes so should big men not hit little men?  The other problem I have with it is that I remember Jerry Springer always citing it in his shows, when virtually all the women in his audience would have easily slapped him upside his head?

[ohcheap1]

Thanks for not asking,"Did she deserve to be hit?" After I posted that I thought it would be the next thing to come up. Thats so not what I meant by that.

I did a job at a Womens Shelter last week and there are many cases of men who abide by the not hitting women theory and their mates end up beating the poo out of them in order to push them over the edge to fight back. I learned all kinds of weird statistics when I was there. The whole thing is just freakish anyway.

Oh and "Yes" thats what that means Smokes. Can we all just get along? 

[PsPBuRnOuT]

Oh and "Yes" thats what that means Smokes. Can we all just get along? 

2 Shay ("touch?")

[JackFrost]

Well, I'll just throw in for a second that we really shouldn't be hitting each other at all regardless of age or sex, but hey, I'm a dreamer...

[MisterAJ]

that you are, my friend... but it's a nice dream...

[laama]

I try avoid cases like this,one hit could be very expensive.

[Robin-Graves]

No matter how idiotic someone seems to be,, its still illegal to hit them.
Seems laws are set up to protect the guilty.

[PsPBuRnOuT]

No matter how idiotic someone seems to be,, its still illegal to hit them.
Seems laws are set up to protect the guilty.

2Shay 2Shay 

[dweez]

I don't hit females but that doesn't mean I can't do something to prevent them hitting me.

[Skadi]

I don't hit females but that doesn't mean I can't do something to prevent them hitting me.

The fact you have cooties doesn't count.

[dweez]

Wha?!?!

[Skadi]

Wha?!?!

You can't use 'if you hit me, I'll give you my boy cooties' as a method of self defense

[CMF]

Well, I'll just throw in for a second that we really shouldn't be hitting each other at all regardless of age or sex, but hey, I'm a dreamer...

And can I have a Hallelujah...

[Skadi]

And.. if someone is in a mood, provoking them isn't wise. Self defense is one thing. Pushing someone over the brink is a whole other story.

[dweez]

Haha!

[redlandslide]

I don't hit females but that doesn't mean I can't do something to prevent them hitting me.

Like distracting them with a shoe shop.

[Skadi]

Like distracting them with a shoe shop.

>_<

[MisterAJ]

Like distracting them with a shoe shop.

Ba-dum-dum-tsssh...

[Skadi]

Plus, it makes no sense.. because then they'd have a whole arsenal of pointy heeled shoes to impale you with

[Robin-Graves]

Can a woman on here please explain this to me ( ok,, maybe im just dense,,im a guy after all).
Why is it that whenever a guy is beating his significant other, she goes nuts if someone comes to defend her?
 Ive been in situations ( ok,, I beat the living hell out of a guy once for almost killing his wife,,call it chivalry, stupidity, whatever) where the woman is being torn up, then someone comes and fights for her, then she turns into a wildcat and tries to claw her defenders eyes out.
 Or a woman gets beaten on a regular basis and wont leave the guy.
I know how degradation works ( it was an interogation technique I learned ), but for crying out loud,, if your in danger,, you dont just stay in danger. you try to get out of it.
 Why is it that alot of women wont get out of the bad situation theyre in?
( and on a side note, why is when a woman cheats on her husband, she claims the husband " made her do it"?)
 These kinds of women are making the rest of you out there look kinda nuts. ( believe me, I know about insane women).

[JackFrost]

RG, I think you've started a whole 'nother topic here...

I ain't touchin' this with a 50 foot pole... 

[Robin-Graves]

No actualy it has to do with this topic.
It really does,,this problem goes hand in hand with what happened to AJ.

But,,,if a mod ( hey there Skadi,, you cute thang you) wants to use it to start another thread,, be my guest.

[smokester]

Why is it that whenever a guy is beating his significant other, she goes nuts if someone comes to defend her?

That's pretty much what I said earlier Robin, and why I think it happens is that at the point when they see the person that they have deep emotional feelings for being hurt, regardless of what they have done their instinct is to defend them. 

[Robin-Graves]

I think its insanity,, but thats just me.

[smokester]

I think its insanity,, but thats just me.

Not really.

If I am having a argument with missus and call her a cow that's ok, but if the bloke standing next to me agrees then I'd lamp him for insulting her.. does that make any sense?

[redlandslide]

Not really.

If I am having a argument with missus and call her a cow that's ok, but if the bloke standing next to me agrees then lamp him for insulting her.. does that make any sense?

However, if the bloke next to you disagrees, then lamp him for poking his nose into something that doesn't concern him. Either way the bloke gets lamped. 

[ohcheap1]

I feel a sense of deja vu here. I know weve discussed this before. People who are very limited in their communication skills and/or dont have any at all only know how to express their emotions through actions. I personally find this physically repulsive but that is a vast amount of people. They have grown up seeing family and friends treating their supposed loved ones this way and its all they "claim" to know. Showing pure emotion or sensitivity is demeaning in some way for them hense: what they've been taught. I got smacked by a boyfriend at one time when I was in my early 20's and that was the end of that. Gone that minute. I also broke a chair over a fiance back once when I found him in bed with someone. So either way, whether the man instigates it or the woman it solves absolutely nothing. Unless you are one of ^^^those feeble minded people and it means,"They love me!! They really love me!! Look how they done kicked his ass"

[smokester]

However, if the bloke next to you disagrees, then lamp him for poking his nose into something that doesn't concern him. Either way the bloke gets lamped. 

That is unless he supports West Ham.

Then I'll know in advance that he is just off his rocker...

People who are very limited in their communication skills and/or dont have any at all only know how to express their emotions through actions.

Some fighting is good, clean fun, especially with Australian rugby fans.

[ohcheap1]

Some fighting is good, clean fun, especially with Australian rugby fans.

Thats sport humor right? I dont get it. 

[Skadi]

There's a whole range of scenarios we're all talking about.. so, it's hard to really group them into the same bunch...

there are some general rules that might run across lots of situations..

..but, I think each incident to incident, and each relationship to relationship is probably different

I assume some instance a girl might be being attacked and be thanking her stars someone saved her. Other times.. she's stuck in a negative bad cycle with the wrong person and the dysfunction of their relationship makes no sense. Other times a girl might really be able to provoke a situation that shouldn't have been poked at. Not that she by any means should get hit. But, she could have walked away... or, not thrown the first punch (be it verbal or actual punch).

But, it's definitely too intense of a topic to lump all instances into one easy to explain standard explanation.

[ohcheap1]

Who's lumping? We are discussing the reasons why AJ's situation may have evolved and all the comments posted are indeed relavent to the scenerio including yours Skadi. Just sayin.....

[Robin-Graves]

Some fighting is good, clean fun, especially with Australian rugby fans.

Or the beating im going to give to MACE for his title!

Other times a girl might really be able to provoke a situation that shouldn't have been poked at. Not that she by any means should get hit. But, she could have walked away... or, not thrown the first punch (be it verbal or actual punch).

See ,, Ive been in a situation ( or a hundred) with my ex,, especialy here lately, where she has thrown the first punch ( verbaly).
Ive never hit her,, I usualy throw it back into her court and let her show her arse about things.
 Ive known women that like to "prove" how mean they are by pushing a guy until he snaps,. then its the guys fault.
Then others still that get off on being hit ( kinky,,even for me).
 Usualy i just turn my back and walk away and let her fuss and scream to her hearts content, especialy in front of others.
Although she never understands why people act funny around her.

[Skadi]

Who's lumping? We are discussing the reasons why AJ's situation may have evolved and all the comments posted are indeed relavent to the scenerio including yours Skadi. Just sayin.....

er...?

to me it seemed like some lumping was going on. And broad generalizations were being made. I was leading up to the idea that Robin had mentioned that if we wanted to get really detailed and list off individual incidents and how they difered, maybe we should move this to a whole other thread of it's own. He'd mentioned that request to me in this thread, and mine was a follow up statement of sorts implying it indeed was a complicated subject. I was waiting to hear from AJ if he wanted this thread branched off.

Adrenaline is a weird chemical. It can make rational people flip switches in a split second. And, people who are used to fighting, use it like a natural drug to get a rush. Some people use violence as a sacntioned method of discipline. For other people it defines who they are. It's a complicated topic that would take lots of posts and examples to dissect properly.

[MisterAJ]

I think I should point out that she came and hid behind my back, I didn't just step into something...

[Skadi]

I think I should point out that she came and hid behind my back, I didn't just step into something...

And in that case I think you did the right thing regardless. It could have been unsafe if the guy had a knife. It would have sucked if you'd been caught up in something worse, that you didn't bring on.

Now the discussion has veered off into domestic violence ..and fighting.. and lots of subtopics. 

It's your thread AJ.. do we just let it freelow here? or, do you want the sub conversations branched off on their own thread?

[MisterAJ]

I just started this thread to went...

Getting different POV on this, and related subjects, don't bother me...

[Robin-Graves]

 

Adrenaline is a weird chemical. It can make rational people flip switches in a split second. And, people who are used to fighting, use it like a natural drug to get a rush. Some people use violence as a sacntioned method of discipline. For other people it defines who they are.

Very true on all counts.
Im not by nature a violent person,, I just play on in front of an audience lmao.
I do have to say though,, that in the work I do when the adrenaline starts its a VERY addictive drug.
 Unfortunately, Ive hade to catch myself in real lworld situations, and Ive been lucky thus far.
 I tend to be a very self disciplined person,, as Ive stated many times before. So I know when to back off, when to leave, and  when to just disapear for a while.
 Im not going to lie,, Ive had a few bad incidents in the past ( I wont wont go into those, enough people think im a monster as it is), but ive never hit a woman outside the ring.
 Ive found that just turning your back on a woman and ignoring her when a situation gets out of hand that she instigated is more than enough of a blow to her psyche than any physical hit will ever do.
 Not that im into mental or emotional abuse either.
 Ive seen women that were emotionaly and mentaly abused to the point that they were just shadows creeping along. Ive seen them to the point that a wrong look from a stranger sends them into a fetal state.
 Abuse is abuse,, be it physical , emotional or mental.
Scars dont have to be seen .