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Offline smokester

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My heartfelt sympathy for Norway.
« on: July 23, 2011, 05:17:18 AM »
I woke this morning shocked at the revelation of the Norwegian shootings:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8656455/Norway-shooting-Eyewitness-accounts-of-Utoya-shooting.html

Again a sole, or possible a few screwed up people have branded in a scar into the planet that will probably never fade.  Norway to me has always seemed such a quiet and idyllic country, that I would have considered myself safe from the world atrocities if I ever chose to live there. That notion, for me at least, makes yesterday's nightmare even more shocking along with the fact that again it seems to be the youth of the country that were targetted.

Seems like the shooter was a Christian fanatic, proving the point that there no single "evil" in religion, or the world for that matter, it manifests itself in many forms and for many screwed up causes.

Rest in peace my Norwegian brothers and sisters
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Re: My heartfelt sympathy for Norway.
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2011, 05:47:01 AM »
so agree, so sad about what has happened  :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Re: My heartfelt sympathy for Norway.
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2011, 09:41:07 AM »
There are crazy people everywhere and there is no such country as a peaceful one. I guess we think of Scandinavian countries as such, because we don't know about them as much as we know about USA for example. Therefore, we would assume there is nothing wrong over there. Nevertheless, the depression and suicide rates are higher in northern countries, it seems it is due to the lack of sunlight.
Anyways, it is sad what happened, but I think what we need to do is not lament over the dead, but try to prevent such things from happening.
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Re: My heartfelt sympathy for Norway.
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2011, 11:08:10 AM »
Quote from: CMF on July 23, 2011, 09:41:07 AM

Anyways, it is sad what happened, but I think what we need to do is not lament over the dead, but try to prevent such things from happening.

Personally I can't help but mourn the dead because they appear to be people about your age. To me that makes a big difference as I almost feel guilty for having lived at least twice, if not 3 times the age of most of those cut down.

Tragic indeed.
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Re: My heartfelt sympathy for Norway.
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2011, 11:48:00 AM »
Quote from: smokester on July 23, 2011, 05:17:18 AM
Norway to me has always seemed such a quiet and idyllic country, that I would have considered myself safe from the world atrocities if I ever chose to live there.

That's the same comment we made after the shock of hearing about that tragedy.
Apparently the bombing is linked to the shooting?
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Re: My heartfelt sympathy for Norway.
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2011, 11:56:34 AM »
This is a tragidy that has traumatized my entire country.

None of my family or any of my friends were injured in the incident, however my sister and her youngest daughter was in Oslo when the bomb went of.
They were shuck up, but otherwise fine.
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Re: My heartfelt sympathy for Norway.
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2011, 02:23:57 PM »
I am very glad to see you are ok AJ, and that your loved ones are too.

I can only imagine how shocking such an unprovoked attack on so many innocents must be, as this is no ordinary terrorism.  I don't think it will ever make any sense to anyone, fanatical or otherwise, and I can only pray that such an incident will never, never be repeated.
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Re: My heartfelt sympathy for Norway.
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2011, 03:02:23 PM »
so glad your ok.
my thoughts are with all the families
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Re: My heartfelt sympathy for Norway.
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2011, 07:09:09 PM »
My thoughts and prayers go out to all of Oslo as well as to your sister and her daughter AJ.
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Re: My heartfelt sympathy for Norway.
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2011, 06:35:31 AM »
My condolences to all of Norway. This was a totally senseless crime.
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Re: My heartfelt sympathy for Norway.
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2011, 08:39:34 PM »
Quote from: dweez on July 23, 2011, 07:09:09 PM
My thoughts and prayers go out to all of Oslo as well as to your sister and her daughter AJ.

From me also. That's sad and scary :(
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Re: My heartfelt sympathy for Norway.
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2011, 01:41:32 PM »
Sad and scary case and not for the last,I think.
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Re: My heartfelt sympathy for Norway.
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2011, 06:23:50 AM »
I was just reading that Anders Breivik has been judge insane at the time of the shootings:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/anders-breivik--not-criminally-accountable--for-norway-terror-attacks-.html

Understanding that I am of mental illness, I have no idea what to think of this situation. 
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Re: My heartfelt sympathy for Norway.
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2011, 02:42:59 PM »
Most Norwegians seem to disagree in that assessment.

Can a man be psychotic for 8-10 years, and plan something so meticulously? cowpoo, I tell you...
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Re: My heartfelt sympathy for Norway.
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2011, 02:56:17 PM »
Quote from: MisterAJ on December 28, 2011, 02:42:59 PM
Most Norwegians seem to disagree in that assessment.

Can a man be psychotic for 8-10 years, and plan something so meticulously? cowpoo, I tell you...

Yes I agree.  Regardless of the mental illness issue the man still deserves the same punishment as that of a sane man. This would be true if only one person had died at his hands let alone the many that did.

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Re: My heartfelt sympathy for Norway.
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2011, 07:31:39 AM »
I think the problem in this case is that the psychologists doing the assessment of him had decided that he was mental long before they met the man.
They just didn't know WHAT kind of mental illness he had yet...

Personally, I would have preferred to have a court appointed psychologist from Germany, Britain or Canada to check him over.
No Norwegian has the capacity to stay neutral in this case.

I can also inform you that according to Norwegian legal parameters, a person has to be mentally "unconscious" in order for a insanity plea/not mentally accountable to pass mustard.

We either need to redefine our definition of paranoid schizophrenia and psychosis, or what is and isn't mentally concious.

This was a concious act.

Let him stand trial accordingly.
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