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« on: June 25, 2016, 07:38:46 PM »
Because why not?

Mom watches the liberal propoganda network, and they went on and on about the whole brexit vote was inconsequential and obviously, the UK was going to vote remain. Apparrently the bookies considered "remain" the safe bet.

Then again, the liberal propoganda network had also been pushing the clinton v bush narrative, and look how that turned out. I was especially pissed about how rachel maddow constantly demanded bernie sanders apologise for the "terroristic" actions of his supporters, and also telling him to leave the race for the good of the party, despite the fact that young voters view hillary like an expired sandwich being sold as a premium offering.

But I wander.

It was funny watching them have no bless'ed clue what was going on when the leave vote began to take that narrow margin. They kept trying to talking head over an ITV thread, realizing they didn't have a fuxking clue, going back to the ITV feed, rinse repeat. Caught with their pants down really.

I recognize the views of Americans on this historic vote are possibly less than desired now, but I saw two college age kids with a banner that said "you stole our future."

Now, while I would agree that the boomers are certainly handing off a frivhtening future of economic mystery and fear of robots stealin' our jerbs, but those two kids holding that banner looked like two of the snobbiest little shits on earth. I'd love to run through that bless'ed banner like a football player, doing a header into that river with an inarticulate yell of rage.

But hey, it shows that voting does still work, even if it does create the nightmare future from bttf pt. 2

And Dodgy dave has an amazing madam face right now. Like wow.

Mom was watching her liberal propoganda station today, and trump was on a golf course somewhere. Scotland? He kept telling them their questions had to be about golf, and obviously the reporters didn't give a golly about golf. It reminded me of the adult swim terrorism case, when the two suxpects lawyer told them not to talk about the case, so they held a press conference about their hair.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2016, 07:53:47 AM »

What the "young" don't realise is that for the last 40 years the country, and especially the press, have done nothing but complain about the E.U. All the loony legislation, the cost to agriculture, the idea of a single currency, the list goes on and on. No-one (at least no-one I know) has ever said a kind word about being in Europe.  It is kind to some businesses but crucifies others, so even economically it has never been truly well received. The idea of "freedom of movement" is ill conceived as some nations within the E.U. are far more desirable than others. It was always going to cause problems locally.

I don't believe Brexit should ever have happened and it never would have under a Labour government. The wrong party initiated it and the wrong PM defended it. If nothing else voting out felt like jabbing the administration with a sharp stick and I'd guess a lot of the 'out' vote had that intention.

It is what it is now and Britain should get on with establishing trade with every possible nation it can. I'm sure some of the East will see this as an opportunity and the Chinese especially have invested so much here that I doubt it wants to bail because of this.

Europe has tried to make this very hard for Britain but now has to adhere to the law which should steady the ship. Is has to hope and help Britain to fail miserably as if we actually were to benefit from this vote, they'd be a cue of other countries wanting their own referendum. That is worse case scenario for the E.U.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2016, 09:38:08 AM »
I've been reading some interesting stuff about brexit this morning, but it still seems like such a stupid name. At least they aren't slapping "gate" on the end of it. One interesting argument I saw stated that it was not in any way about racism, but instead about sovereignty and accountability, that leaders in England are more accountable than a commitee in brussels.

Since I'm childish, I'll suggest an alternate name for the press to use - "golly E.U."

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2016, 10:25:55 AM »
Your suggested name is all I've heard it called throughout my adult life.  It's odd now that we have a generation that wants in. I think they think that being in the E.U. means they are destined to a life of boiled beef and carrots. They don't realise that Brexit doesn't mean you can't drink coffee while sitting outside.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2016, 07:40:00 AM »
Have heard of some of Fox news reporting on Brexit with Farage spewing out his usual propaganda.
Farage is live in the EU parliament atm on the BBC site, cocky poo.
 But were going out, so I am totally fed with all the political experts available at work and on my previous Union course, which I made a few enemies stating how poor the IN ran its campaign on so many levels.

funnies quote I heard from a Brian Moore who simply stated that
All the youth of today thought the OAP generation hated them, They have just confirmed it !
Demographically how people voted was interesting.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2016, 03:48:47 PM »
I think that you missed a "not" somewhere in there.

Nothing wrong with a contraction or two. Just ask the French.

Yup.

We just aren't set up for direct democracy, because (a) it doesn't work, and (b) we don't want it to.

Consider that if 51% of the country thought that we should euthanise all left-handed (red haired/ big eared/ male/ young/ old/ ...) people, then we would be on a bit of a slippery slope if the tyranny of the majority were absolute - that it what representative democracy, legislation, common law, checks and balances are installed to avoid.

Choosing a bunch of lying, cheating, stealing politicians to represent us is our way of ensuring that the ignorant, idiot, self-interested populace is kept away from involvement in deciding anything important.

Euthanasia is way better the murder. Those carrot tops should count themselves lucky.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2016, 07:56:00 AM »
So Boris doesn't want to lead the Conservatives as prime minister.
A big hit and run it seems.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2016, 10:21:54 AM »
Watch this space at the next General Election, when we need a "Saviour".


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Re: Brexit
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2016, 04:34:14 AM »
good new today Farage is quitting as UKIp leader

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2016, 08:34:40 AM »
His annual resignation. What is the little beggar up to now, one wonders aloud.

He's probably going to start a new party with BoJo. Either that or a pub.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2016, 12:03:03 AM »
And here's all the people who voted for exit thinking its all over, Who knows what is going to happen with whether Parliament gets to vote on it.
For Someones sake hurry up the uncertainty is killing the UK economy

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2016, 02:39:02 AM »
And here's all the people who voted for exit thinking its all over, Who knows what is going to happen with whether Parliament gets to vote on it.
For Someones sake hurry up the uncertainty is killing the UK economy

The economy is thriving; it's the £ that's bent.

The friends I have that export are making a killing but they're scared shitless about what happens after we leave.  My guess is that if the pound is still weak, most of the European members are not going to want to give up cheap imports for the sake of some cronies seeming to look tough on deserters. 
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2016, 01:14:59 PM »
Today was our invoice date for hosting. I got an exchange rate (server in in Houston) of 1.18.  That's bloody parity in my book!!!

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2016, 12:54:12 AM »
It's getting like a long playing record, keeps going on and on and on and on and on and on
I love the fact every increase or lack of availability of an item is now due to Brexit.
Melton Mowbry pork pies may be going up in price, due to Brexit, But their made and produced in Melton Mowbry  :o :o
I am sure more increases due to Brexit will appear before Xmas  >:(

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2016, 07:10:40 PM »
I'm surprised this shitshow is still being held, it's like a tv show that should be cancelled. Then again, our own election here in the US is the same way. Neither candidate has positive numbers. Clinton is sitting at -30%, Trump at -60%. It's like a bless'ed steam sale on uplay games.

On SNL, Mckinnon as Clinton described herself as a "poo sandwich", and it's quite clear, brexit is a poo buffet!

I heard the latest clownwhoes cowpoo in brexit was that negotiations were to be petulantly held in French.

It's like, look, EU, it's a breakup. No need to boil bunnies.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2016, 12:45:25 AM »
Brexit is a joke and going on far too long. :-[

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2016, 10:59:51 AM »
It's all right for the EU to threaten to expel Greece when the situation with their economy doesn't suit, but heavens forbid if a nation wants to leave of their own accord.

When they've boiled those bunnies they'll stick them on spikes at every exit point. Just to remind the others.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2016, 08:51:45 AM »
Brexit would probably be fine if it weren't handled by politicians. So would have Remain been.

Personally I can't think of a single benefit of being in the EU, and no politician has ever attempted to outline either the benefits or the drawbacks, all they have ever done is use meaningless soundbites containing massive exaggerations and incorrect generalisations. This is compounded by the press attempting to twist and distort everything said by every politician, and the result is, to quote 8ully, a shitstorm.

The biggest plus for me of Brexit is that there are fewer layers of politicians and bureaucrats, but even that likely falls into the "anything that makes no difference is actually no different" camp.

Inflation would have gone up either way,
Unions would have got more bolshie either way,
London will continue to devour most of the country's resources either way,
Scotland will still complain either way,
Unemployment would have gone up either way,
The pound would have gone down either way,
etc., etc., etc.


Quite right.

I don't suppose anyone would have foreseen such bother and fuss it would take to leave the EU, when the EU was first imagined.  If they'd said this would be the result of someone not renewing their membership I doubt they'd have got the thing off the ground in the first place.

I fully understand the principle of sour grapes as, believe it or not, I was once a 5 year old. I really thought that some people in this process would have acted with more maturity - and that includes Obama.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2017, 01:21:07 AM »
"Nicola Sturgeon warns PM she is not bluffing on indyref2"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-38543547

Can she legally demand another vote and does parliament have to take notice.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2017, 05:56:06 AM »
This may be from editorial shenanigans, but the article reads to me like Sturgeon does not want to accept reality, even when she's already been told what those realities are, first in that the UK is leaving the EU, and second that a failed referendum has already been held.

She spoke of the meeting with May, where hard lines were drawn in the sand, and wanting to pretend that they aren't there, or that she just doesn't like what she's heard.

The ball she wants to take home simply isn't hers to take.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2017, 06:13:47 AM »
What I find quite amusing is that if there was some kind of Scoxit from the U.K, wouldn't Scotland be left with the decision of a hard or soft version of their departure.

Talk about creating even more circles to run around.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2017, 10:44:27 AM »
On top of that, it's presumptive to think they would just roll into the EU.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2017, 08:02:21 AM »
On top of that, it's presumptive to think they would just roll into the EU.
Believe the EU has told Her that if we leave then Scotland must go

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2017, 02:48:08 PM »
Believe the EU has told Her that if we leave then Scotland must go

That's because they are still part of the U.K. If they were to break away then they might be able to automatically keep their membership or just apply to join.  Both options, as 8ully pointed out, are not a given.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2017, 03:09:12 PM »
This whole independence thing is fraught with idiocy. Shetland, Orkney and the Outer Hebrides have said that they would want to declare independence from Scotland if Scotland voted to become independent from the rest of the UK. Where does this madness end? No one is truly independent, so even though nations are largely defined by arbitrary lines drawn on maps there is nothing to replace them with other than other arbitrary lines in different places on the same maps.

I wonder if Shetland, Orkney and the Outer Hebrides would want a hard or soft exit from Scotland? 
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2017, 08:49:35 AM »
I have no idea what the difference is. Out is out.

It's to do with kilts and The Highland games.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2017, 08:04:22 AM »
It's to do with kilts and The Highland games.
And a caber involved I imagine.

Just wish they would get on with it all. Divorces usually take less time than this

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2017, 01:06:09 AM »
News Flash. Teresa has signed the letter
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39422353

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2017, 09:00:12 PM »
Will the new referendum be called ScottShit?

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2017, 12:56:06 AM »
Will the new referendum be called ScottShit?

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« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2017, 03:19:47 PM »
Turns out that she signed Article 51 by mistake - we're still in Europe but we all have to wear hats.

Perfectly fitting hats that is. Otherwise, there would be a major health and safety incident that could result in artificial cranial deformation.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2017, 01:10:11 AM »
 ::)  ;D ;D ;D ;D
what is a worry is the amount of NHS staff that will leave (and has already) as they fear what MAY happen with EU citizens having or not having to leave the UK.
Already spanish citizens in the NHS are looking and returning to the EU as they have to work in a EU country to keep their medical qualification, the UK would not qualify for this requirement when we leave ( unless negotiated and Gibraltar could be a sticking point ???).

Family we have in Oxford are already crapping themselves as they may all have to get off the Doll and work for a living  ;D ;D ;D  ;D.
I find it so easy to wind them up as they voted to be rid of the immigrants, yet dont want to do the jobs the immigrants do.

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« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2017, 02:59:47 AM »
::)  ;D ;D ;D ;D
what is a worry is the amount of NHS staff that will leave (and has already) as they fear what MAY happen with EU citizens having or not having to leave the UK.
Already spanish citizens in the NHS are looking and returning to the EU as they have to work in a EU country to keep their medical qualification, the UK would not qualify for this requirement when we leave ( unless negotiated and Gibraltar could be a sticking point ???).

Family we have in Oxford are already crapping themselves as they may all have to get off the Doll and work for a living  ;D ;D ;D  ;D.
I find it so easy to wind them up as they voted to be rid of the immigrants, yet dont want to do the jobs the immigrants do.

I don't know about there, but in my experience the NHS has been held together by Caribbeans, Indians, Africans and more recently, Filipinos. Rarely have I seen any European staff - barring the brits.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2017, 12:28:20 AM »
spanish / italian / portugese have a large NHS presence in Leicester

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2017, 04:28:16 PM »
I voted out due the hate, hate relationship the construction industry has had with EU regulation. I'm old school and I was sick and tired of constant nannying and ridiculous directives sent out from places that were (in my opinion) still catching up with British building regulations. In fact, nowadays you can pretty much get away with murder by way of quality.

This has been my opinion for over 30 years and has nothing to do with any of the theories that are regularly bandied about.

What I do find odd is the perception that people regret the vote when, in truth, it is quite the opposite. I didn't know many folk that voted out (London was overwhelmingly "in") but now find a lot of people that are excited about the prospect. I do bump into (especially in my industry) a few people that are obviously prejudiced but dress it up as "taking back control", and I find myself having to firmly state that my decision wasn't about immigration as they seem to believe that anyone who voted out did so for that reason. They harp on constantly about the Poles and Romanians etc. expecting bro-hugs of unity. They really have another think coming.

I have to be honest and say I am always irritated when I hear someone in a talk show saying the people of Britain were misled or a victim of fraud. I have my own mind and used it as did the others I know (with a few exceptions noted above) that voted out. I personally always thought the public must have been stoned, spellbound or stupid to have voted the tories in for 18 years. But they did as they did labour for the next decade or so which must have had the conservatives saying the same thing. People exercise their right to choose and those who chose differently just have to live with it.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2017, 01:31:36 PM »
second day into a H&S course  ::) ::)  sorry smokes  ;D ;D

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« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2017, 03:51:40 PM »
second day into a H&S course  ::) ::)  sorry smokes  ;D ;D

I wonder if the HSE has any plans to water down some of the stifling regulation. I mean, you can shop on Oxford street but you can't sweep it without ear protection. Actually, you're breaking rules if you breathe there due to the pollutant particles thingamajig.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2017, 12:05:41 AM »
all gone mad

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« Reply #38 on: April 06, 2017, 10:56:39 AM »
looking at some of the H&S reg this week, Teresa wants to "cut the red tape"
kids up the chimneys again  ;D ;D ;D ;D







whoops and as christ said common sense should be used

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« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2017, 02:10:02 PM »
It is maddening that (in my experience) all courses, and all senior HSE folk, insist that the rules aren't mad, it is the application of them: if "common sense" were to be used in conjunction with the rules then the whole system may work.

Unfortunately common sense is not applicable to middle management or lawyers, nor to the great unwashed public who are always looking for someone else to blame for their own stupidity - this creates a perfect storm: someone has a totally avoidable accident that was almost wholly their own fault, calls a lawyer who smells the gravy train and sues: if the middle managers haven't slavishly followed all of the regulation a judge/ jury may find them liable. They shouldn't, but they may.

I used to be a health and safety officer in Brent - or more precisely, for Brent Cross Shopping Centre. The vast majority of infringements were for tripping hazards which could have very easily been avoided. Some of the more serious breaches were the blocking of fire exits which was rife as stores needed more storage that was close to the shop floor. There was already regulation for this but rather then the EU sending over more and more directives on how things should operate, they should have simply said that there should be a complete abolition of 'bungs' and there would have never been an incident again.

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« Reply #40 on: April 07, 2017, 12:56:20 AM »
an old tutor collected from around the world, hilarious to say the least.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #41 on: September 27, 2017, 05:04:46 AM »
well brexit is still up in the air
whens the next vote

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2017, 09:52:16 AM »
Jesus, it's like Mrs. May thinks Europe doesn't have the internet. Like she thinks maggie didn't get enough hate, and she better catch up.

Now I despised Clinton, but voted for her out of fear of the reality show we all now must suffer through, and no network can cancel.

Is May a bless'ed scapegoat? Or is she this bless'ed dumb? It's like the pig corpsefucker left her notes to make him look - - can't say good, so, less bad?

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« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2017, 03:56:30 PM »
Jesus, it's like Mrs. May thinks Europe doesn't have the internet. Like she thinks maggie didn't get enough hate, and she better catch up.

Now I despised Clinton, but voted for her out of fear of the reality show we all now must suffer through, and no network can cancel.

Is May a bless'ed scapegoat? Or is she this bless'ed dumb? It's like the pig corpsefucker left her notes to make him look - - can't say good, so, less bad?

There isn't any real comparison with May and Thatcher - or May and anyone really - as she's pretty much invisible. Most don't like or hate her these days, we all just seem to be waiting for her to disappear like Dave whatshisname.

It's all a bit boring truth be told. Bring back the Faridge I say!
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« Reply #44 on: October 25, 2020, 01:32:33 PM »
I'm curious: can the U.K still call it vegan cheese?
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« Reply #45 on: October 26, 2020, 09:51:29 AM »
I'm curious: can the U.K still call it vegan cheese?
veggie burgers + sausages can be called  sausages and burgers - European Parliament on Friday voted to allow producers of meatless foodstuffs to continue calling them "sausages" and "burgers" if they desire

Veggie cheese nope - non diary product - 2017, the Court of Justice of the European Union (EU) ruled that dairy-alternative products cannot be sold in the EU under names such as ‘milk’, ‘butter’ or ‘cheese’.

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« Reply #46 on: October 26, 2020, 11:13:07 AM »
My husband, for health reasons, used to frequent a vegan restaurant for lunch.  They had some good creative sandwich wraps.  The one thing I never could get comfortable eating was "vegan cheese."  It's like some kind of weird test tube produced congealed vegetable fat.  Not palatable at all.

And what's up with hamburgers?  They don't contain any ham.  Why isn't anyone kicking up a fuss about that?


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« Reply #47 on: October 26, 2020, 11:48:40 AM »
never call tem hamburgers myself , always beefburgers over here

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« Reply #48 on: October 26, 2020, 03:00:49 PM »
Aye, that you are.

I'll take that as a compliment.

veggie burgers + sausages can be called  sausages and burgers - European Parliament on Friday voted to allow producers of meatless foodstuffs to continue calling them "sausages" and "burgers" if they desire

Veggie cheese nope - non diary product - 2017, the Court of Justice of the European Union (EU) ruled that dairy-alternative products cannot be sold in the EU under names such as ‘milk’, ‘butter’ or ‘cheese’.

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We are not in the EU though? That was my point.

Even if we were, I'd still call it vegan cheese - or "muck" now I think of it.

My husband, for health reasons, used to frequent a vegan restaurant for lunch.  They had some good creative sandwich wraps.  The one thing I never could get comfortable eating was "vegan cheese."  It's like some kind of weird test tube produced congealed vegetable fat.  Not palatable at all.

And what's up with hamburgers?  They don't contain any ham.  Why isn't anyone kicking up a fuss about that?

It's fun watching those EU-people-folk doing their thing. I thinks they're a bit cray cray.
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« Reply #49 on: October 27, 2020, 08:48:23 AM »
We are not in the EU though? That was my point.
Even if we were, I'd still call it vegan cheese - or "muck" now I think of it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8867175/Vegan-sausages-renamed-tubes-new-EU-law.html

Britain would be able to opt out of the law if it passes, because it is leaving the EU.
But British ministers could choose to adopt the measures, and UK farmers exporting to the EU would be forced to abide by the rules.

not quite yet were not  ??? ???

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« Reply #50 on: October 27, 2020, 08:55:04 AM »
So they are to be called Vegan Tubes?

I think bringing legislation into this argument is somewhat silly, but it has bothered the caveman bit of my brain that the stupid brands can call their bean patty sandwich a "burger" or worse, their nasty meatless tubes "Hot dogs".  Much as there is no such thing as Almond or Oat "Milk". At least some companies are honest enough to call their product "Dairy Substitute".

I had a friend who would very often throw out the hot dogs at a bbq and replace them with shitty tofu dogs, she was eventually banned from the grilling area. Yes, we CAN tell the difference, Rachel.

People would get REALLY MAD about it.

Morningstar has never made a product I've enjoyed.

I believe I made a thread about the impossible whopper, I was impressed by everything but the price. I've yet to try the other one, and I scarcely remember the name. Beyond burger?  I know they used Carl's Jr as the chain to launch it, and I've not been to one of those since, poo, 2009.

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« Reply #51 on: October 27, 2020, 03:23:57 PM »
The Beyond Meat burgers are good, based on pea protein.  But, they're hideously expensive.  Morningstar Farms spicy black bean burgers are ok, but the rest of them, meh.  I like Quorn burgers.  They use some kind of mycoproteins.  They have fake chicken burgers, fake hamburgers, etc.  Not bad in general.  Morningstar farms uses GMO sources so not among my favorite brands in this genre.  I'm not really a burger eater, but my husband likes to eat them.  He usually eats his meat burgers at lunch in restaurants, while we use veggie burgers at home.

I sort of pause at the idea of vegan sausages.  I'm not a huge sausage fan, but Aidell's makes several pretty tasty chicken varieties.  They also make a range of burgers, with the carmelized onion chicken burgers among the best.  I don't mind tofu, but it seems a bit of a stretch to force it to substitute for a completely different food culture like burgers and hot dogs.  I haven't tried any tofu sausages but it's mostly because they sound like they'd suck.

There's plenty of delicious Asian recipes that feature tofu.  Why not just eat those?  I make this one sometimes and it's really good.  https://www.food.com/recipe/thai-tofu-and-green-bean-red-curry-83380

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« Reply #52 on: October 28, 2020, 03:05:43 PM »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8867175/Vegan-sausages-renamed-tubes-new-EU-law.html

Britain would be able to opt out of the law if it passes, because it is leaving the EU.
But British ministers could choose to adopt the measures, and UK farmers exporting to the EU would be forced to abide by the rules.

not quite yet were not  ??? ???

This part of the bill failed and veggie/vegan burgers and sausages are unaffected. However, the changes passed for dairy names and so Vegan Cheese is now not allowed.

What I don't get is what happens to soya/oat/almond milk etc. Hang on, I've just checked the Alpro site and their products have no mention of the word "milk". Am I going mad or did they used to?
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« Reply #53 on: October 29, 2020, 04:54:29 AM »
I'm cool with renaming the beef products if the vegans don't get a vote.

Since they don't eat them anyway.

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« Reply #54 on: October 29, 2020, 06:36:23 AM »
Applying common sense, this is the right result: "burger" doesn't imply meat, it implies a shape, ditto "sausage" (although direct shapes in America, where sausage comes in patties, and Scotland, where it comes in squares). It is the adjective before that indicates the content ("pork" sausage, "beef"burger). But "cheese" is the indicator that it is dairy related.

What I don't pretend to understand is how the cattle industry allows us to call burgers made of beef "hamburgers".

The latter part of of that was six's point, was it not.

If veggie burgers contain veggies, do vegan burgers contain vegans? If so, my pescartarianism is bent.
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