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Stargate: SG-1 - Season 4.
« on: August 29, 2019, 02:42:41 AM »
[OCT 2019]  Wow, I feel like a bad steward here, like I'm trying to sell people on SG1, and then I rush it. I should learn to cool out. ]

Sometimes I feel like maybe I'm overstepping? like I should cool the frak out on posts.

But I'm on Disk 3 of Season 4 of SG-1 now.

I really, really want 6 to hit Disk 1. We go to the frakkin' fuhrer bunker! I mean that's NUTS for scifi. Not only is the "Nordic" Nazi ideal established in "The other side" but they don't just lampshade it, they make SG-1 sit through an uncomfortable dinner in a decaying dining hall, where bombers shake the ash upon these shitbirds. And they're the ideal! SG-1 is supposed to find advanced alien tech, and bring it back to Earth! And these odious naffs have that advanced technology. The episode doesn't flat out hit you in the face with a sign, but Project Paperclip existed! We pardoned unit 731 in Japan and it netted us ZERO usable intel. These gits acted like monsters under the cover of medical science, and we gave them pardon in hopes that their research was worth something.

Spoiler alert people, it wasn't worth poo. And O'neill gets to deal with THAT level of pressure.

Paperclip may have put us on the moon, but holy CRAP were those gits evil. inglourious basterds may have been pap, but maybe those shitheads should have had swastikas carved in their foreheads. No one asked the surviving Jews if they wanted their ink.

IBM, btw. Holy poo IBM.

Anyway, I'm watching the episode "Scorched earth" and I'm mad at Lt. Gaeta again. Yeah, he's not Gaeta here, but I'm still mad.

alright, the hep C morons (they have yellow eyes) refuse to evacuate from a planet being terraformed by FIRE. The stargate has about 3 hours before it melts.

Frak you, Gaeta.

I do like how the P-90's clip to the SG web gear, that is some tacti-cool. Specifically, movie shorthand before this put MP5's as the "tech cool" gun.

I understand the P-90's on SG-1 were real, until the wars in Afganistan and Iraq cleared out the armory.

Specifically, the Air Force provided a lot of stuff on SG-1. While I love the show, I am uncomfortable that it was used as very real propaganda.

 oh man, the Hep C morons can't live on earth, and the aliens who terraform with FIRE don't give a hoot. That's a rock hard place situation. otherwise known as a typical SG-1 mission.

Oh dang, Hammond is boss as hell. "Make the Robot understand"

DANG, Daniel Jackson solves the day, again. I might even like the apple store Asperger's robot, he did accept alternative solutions.

Oh dang, Danny boy let the Asperger's robot live, instead of committing suicide. Talk about a happy ending to genocide!

Seriously, I know 6 is in the shallow end right now, but this is some serious meat. She might even enjoy the crappy Russian episode!

One of my favorite thing about the extras on these discs is that they tend to be hosted by General Hammond and Doc. Frasier. A major, BTW.

She's a stone fox. Dang.


Still on disc 3 tonight, watched the mining episode. It was enjoyable, and the baddies had Nintendo zappers repainted as their sidearms. Apparently they also shortened the barrel and removed the cable, which would destroy the zapper.

I'm sure millions of zappers were produced. I've got the grey one, not the orange one.

Now I'm watching an episode where a man threatens to expose the stargate program because he's being harassed through his microwave by the lizard people.

Shallow casting pool of Canada strikes again, it's a CYLON!

LOL, I got to see a spec-ops team hop out of a Ford Windstar.

One thing watching this on a wide screen TV is that the sets are super dirty, like they're using shut down restaurants and hotels. Gordon Ramsey would be pissed! I know scrubs used a shut down hospital and people tried to go there.

[Nightly update] Volume 4 is DARK. I don't mean Battle of Winterfell, call the lighting department dark, but things get heavy. Sometimes it felt like the writers hated either the team or the show.

I'll just drop a short little thought on each one, rather than prattle on extensively like I want to.

The Serpent's Venom:
Teal'c gets MESSED UP in this episode. Daniel and Sam have to deal with a game of SIMON from hell.

Chain Reaction:
This episode mainly has to do with blackmail and dirty dealing, but there is a decent level of action despite no one actually firing a shot (I think)
The hit squads that fail in this episode probably got liquidated though, Maybourne's backers don't seem the forgiving type.
Jack accidentally boosts his enemy in this episode, causing Senator Kinsey to make a run for the White House. That can't have repercussions, not at all. Good escape strategy though. I liked the dog. Aussies are great.

2010: an episode set in the far of future of... 2010! Yeah, I know. This episode was broadcast Jan 3rd, 2001, and features airport terrorism. As to the writers being mean spirited, people get killed by laser blasts. We've seen a lot of that on this show, but they got petty with it! These blasts look like bee stings, and they punch holes in your face. A nasty way to go. Essentially, we make peace with aliens who have solutions to all our woes. Cancer, illness, aging, all things of the past. Also a thing of the past? Having children. These chumps won the war without firing a shot.

Absolute Power: What would Daniel Jackson become if he had the accumulated knowledge of 100 SPACE EMPEROR Adolph Hitlers? We find out here. Much like 2010, we get a time skip, and now Danny is super evil. I liked the episode, but I'm not a fan of the glowy squid people, they're so damn smug. Plus, since the vision was delivered, we can't know that Danny would actually act that way. Dreams are weird like that.

The Light: SG-5 I think? Travels to a Goauld palace with addictive qualities. Leaving makes you suicidal. This episode is shockingly dark. There is a suicide before the opening credits.

On to Vol.5, I REALLY hope it's less depressing, Vol.4 was a DOWNER. The disc 4 itself is red, so the menu is of an ominous, red stargate. Also, they've cut back on the special features in favor of audio commentary. I've never been a huge fan of audio commentary, and the extras were fun!

Alright, Disc 5! or Vol. 5, as the case claims. This one felt light, I was worried the disc wasn't in there. The paper insert with chapter titles was missing, I'm absolutely gutted. This menu is tastefully colored gold, as if to allay our fears of the scary red stargate. Plus, Extra's are back! I mean the commentary is still there if you like that, but we get "Stargate SG-1: Timeline to the future - legacy of the gate"

I don't know what that is, but I'm gonna watch it now. The extras on these discs are GREAT shorthand if you wanted to get friends into watching the show BUT skip the episodes you don't like. I feel like they answer all the questions six has asked, and they add a bit of in-universe acting to it. You've been sent from the pentagon to review these files, General Hammond and Doc Frasier aren't too happy, but assist. One time Doc Frasier offers to let you dissect something!


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Re: Stargate: SG-1 - Season 4.
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2019, 12:58:07 AM »
Crossroads, episode 4.  Hot chicks.  And a reappearance of the red eyed venus fly trap mouthed snakey guy.  These women make Carter look like a guy by comparison.  The scanty clothing and wonderbras really do a great deal to emphasize proportions approaching Mariah Carey's.  Dayum.  I suspect it might have something to do with a predominantly male demographic for the show?

Yeah.  Anise and then the priestess of whatever (Shaun'auc) from Te'alc's home planet who is so silly as to believe that the snakey guy can be taught the errors of his ways as a young pup.  That didn't work out too well.  At least the women are in positions of relative power, even though they are hosts to snakey guys. 

It sort of reminds me of the docents at the Reagan library.  Tons of makeup and hairspray and a passionate support of a power structure that relishes the idea of their remaining in inferior positions.  And they chose a Tokra host who has a face you'd just like to smack.  There's a german noun for that kind of visage, Backpfeifengesicht.   

Poor Martoof.  All kinds of Gou'ald treachery and it has to take him as a victim.  Such a nice guy.
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Re: Stargate: SG-1 - Season 4.
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2019, 10:27:37 AM »
He was on highlander, and Shaunac was in a horrible mortal kombat movie. I can't remember her being in anything good.

Anise was a network thing, they saw 7 over on Voyager and wanted some prominent ratings bumps. The actual staff of the show wasn't too happy about it, and actually mention being embarrassed about it.
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Re: Stargate: SG-1 - Season 4.
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2019, 01:12:51 AM »
Window of Opportunity, like Groundhog Day in space.  It was one of the more entertaining episodes.

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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2019, 02:06:17 AM »
That's the one most people call favorite. I disagree. It's great, the references are hot, and it doesn't disappoint, but it's not MY favorite.

I'm glad you had fun with it.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2019, 02:02:49 AM »
The first ones.  Gou'ald living in ponds like some kind of annoying thing you'd pick up in a tropical country.  Blue blood and the usual venus fly trap toothy mouths.  Unas running around giving the prop dept something to do.   They like Gou'ald roasted on a spit over an open campfire.  Jackson declines the snack.

Daniel Jackson gets to learn a little of their language, a couple guys get infested w/Gou'ald and at the end, pretty much everybody else gets to go home.

The episode prior to this in Siberia was just odd.  There are life forms in the water surrounding some Greco/Roman ruins on some letter/number combo planet, and they apparently objected to being taken somewhere else in a thermos, like soup for lunch on another planet (Earth, and Siberia didn't look all that inviting, particularly with the Soviet era utilitarian architecture).  Mayhem ensues, including cracking the window of a submersible containing Jackson, Carter & this week's guest star --attractive Russian physicist (a woman who is clearly not a native Russian speaker and whose accent falls a tiny bit short of Natassia NoGoodNik's "but vhat ve do vit Moose end Squirrel?").  Mean Pentagon guy in the freezer gets out and throws up waterborne lifeform steam.  That was attractive.  There's no explanation for why he's there or even in this episode.  Go figure.  I'd like a job like the officious General whose dialogue most weeks is restricted to "that's a go."  I wish I could get paid for doing so little.  So Pentagon guy clues the rest of the team into what's been happening and  the whole business gets fixed in time for the credits to roll.  And Tea'lc gets to ingest and puke them out, too.  Very wholesome family fun.
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2019, 08:33:22 AM »
The reason the Russia one felt weird was because it was. A lot of it was rewritten on the fly, the ending was originally supposed to be in the middle and an entirely different B plot was supposed to be there, but it fell through.

The Unas planet is the birthplace of the Goauld, I think? The reason why an SG team was there was to study the proto-goauld. They didn't know just down the trail there was a lake full of them.

Unlike most goauld, who are born with genetic memory, the lake ones are just evil.

They uh, did explain why Maybourne was there. He's a crook. When he got shitcanned from the Air Force, he went to work as a mercenary. He happens to know everything about the stargate program and disclosed all that information to the Russians. Because of this, he is put on trial for treason and is sentenced to death.

But he's really good at avoiding that. He regularly antagonizes Jack by just walking out of the bushes or similar type hijinks.

The life forms ARE the water, the Russians essentially kidnapped some of them, which pissed the water people off bad. Most of the deaths at the Siberian base were caused by the Russian military though. I believe they used an aerosol neurotoxin.

In a behind the scenes shot, Don. S. Davis said he loved whenever he got multiple syllable lines in a script, they then did a quick cut of him just dropping a bunch of commands "Open the iris, close the iris, Open the gate, close the gate" that sort of thing.

He actually is under intense pressure both political and literal in the job. He messes up even one of those short commands, everyone dies.

In season 7 we get to see a little more about Walter, the "chevron six, engaged" guy. "Getting a transmission, it's SG-whatever sir" leading to... "Open the iris"
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Re: Stargate: SG-1 - Season 4.
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2019, 06:04:34 PM »
When does Maybourne get canned from the Pentagon?  Tried for treason?  Did I miss something?  Maybe I fell asleep during an episode?  I don't remember doing this but it's not beyond the realm of possibility.

I thought there was a dig on the Unas planet and they were attempting to do a variety of "carbon dating" with another mineral the name of which escapes me, on the skeletal remains of a queen.  It looked like a big lizard skeleton, so I'm even more confused since the Gou'ald are actually little snakey guys who would not have a big head and body like a small dinosaur, which is more like what the skeletal remains (nice job, prop dept) Daniel was excavating resembled.   There's plenty here that does not make lots of sense.  But you seem to have a more comprehensive insight into this.  Maybe I should watch the movie and then maybe I wouldn't have to ask as many questions.  It's entertaining enough though.  I can't really find much else to watch at the moment.

Maybourne is good at being annoying.  He's got a sort of annoying face to go with it.  Not pretty like the 4 guys in SG1, so of course he has to be less good.

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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2019, 06:17:07 PM »
He stole the Antarctic stargate and ran an NID black ops team stealing poo on other planets out of DC. This caused problems with the primary gate.

He got away with that one because they couldn't prove he was in charge, but his team were chased offworld, so they cannot come home. He just pretended he knew nothing about it.

He actually worked his way back into the good graces of the SGC during the foothold episode (We later learn this mission was kept "off the books")

In 2000, O'Neill ran a sting operation because he'd been working offworld teams from the prior black ops episode. He was removed from command and an arrest was an attempted, but he's really good at escaping.  https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Shades_of_Grey  Season 3, Episode 18. I like how O'Neill explained to the black ops guys that the Asgard just kill all criminals, so if they want the possibility of jail, they have to come back through the gate.

Just another way it is established that the Asgard aren't just cute and cuddly.

In that episode with the bug robots, he managed to assist the Russians in recovering the stargate from the Pacific ocean. They had the original DHD, and began their own clandestine stargate program. He really likes doing that. This was straight up treason as he brought both planet coordinates and a complete set of SGC files to Russia. He was arrested and I believe sentenced to death. Maybe the death sentence comes later? He's a slippery eel, and always manages to cut a deal at the last moment, often at Col. O'Neill's expense. He also steals hot dogs and beers from O'Neill. One of O'Neill's fondest wishes is to one day shoot Harry Maybourne.
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2019, 07:16:04 PM »
Thanks for the reminder.  Yeah.  I remember when O'Neill went undercover to do the sting operation and that Maybourne was running it.  But I don't remember if it was the Pentagon behind it or just some right wingnuts.  I guess it was the latter based on your comments.  Kind of like Halliburton getting its mitts on a stargate and tweaking it to its own nefarious ends.  This show does tend to reflect the power structures underlying much of the US political landscape.

I think the death sentence must have come later?  Can't recall if it was doled out when O'Neill was being a richard as undercover guy.  After O'Neill resigned, he sat home and drank beer and played chess with himself.  He was mean to Carter, too, which seemed sort of off.

They do like to mix it up with the sequence of these episodes.  I was thinking of how hard it would be to come up with such varied plots week after week as a writer.  They do a reasonable job of that here.

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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2019, 07:32:35 PM »
In Stargate the NID is legit, they just use methods the SGC would not. His problem was remaining an Air Force Officer while running missions for them, that's double dipping. You're not wrong to compare them to Halliburton.  Supposedly THEIR program began after roswell, but that could be wiki cowpoo.
I imagine the ACTUAL government didn't want the show shitting on the NSA, so the NID was created. They do operate out of the Pentagon though, which is probably where they recruited Maybourne.

Are you talking about O'neill being a richard to Carter in 2010? The first time, when he's working undercover, he needs them to buy that he's out of the game, so he needs to get rid of them fast, and being a richard makes sense.

In 2010, he was against the alliance with the Aschen… and he was right.
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2019, 10:27:08 PM »
I know nothing of 2010.

Halliburton, as far as I know, started as a business that manufactured drills and other industrial machinery for the oil business and then got into heavy engineering projects abroad.  Wikipedia comments about their use of cement, & that makes sense.  I once knew lots more about such corporate involvement in these kinds of development projects but now my brain isn't what it once was.

I'll probably watch more of it tonight.  How many seasons of it are there? 

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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2019, 10:45:50 PM »
2010 is an episode you're either about to hit or will hit soon. Jack is kind of an bottom in it.

There are 10 seasons of SG-1, and the show branches around the end of seven I think? This results in the... I don't want to spoil it, but there is a spinoff series. A good one.
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2019, 12:06:59 AM »
I just watched Scorched Earth.  Half the episodes with quaint humans living on other worlds have people living in tents who look like escapees from a Renaissance Faire.  What's up with that?  Don't the wardrobe guys have any other ideas besides 60's silver lamé and the quasi medieval garments that wouldn't look out of place in a low budget GoT episode?

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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2019, 10:15:12 AM »
Depends on how they live. Daniel explained in the movie that most of the people are nomadic, if they set up stationary farms, the Goauld will burn them and work them to death in the mines. Although there is limited gate trade, use of the gates by non Goauld and Jaffa forces is punishable by death.

For instance, back in season one when Teal'c went on trial for his crimes, you notice the entire group of people abandon their town and hide.

That's not an entirely effective strategy, if the Goauld can't find slaves they send the death gliders in out of petulance.

So yes, agrarian peasant is the dominant style. Could be worse, you should see some of the poo the langarans wear, and the Aschen are lame as golly.

In Scorched earth there is a more ready response, it really is a refugee camp. SG-1 evacuated an entire group of people to the planet. Unfortunately, another alien race had the same idea. Worse, these people can't live on earth, they have different health requirements. I don't think they go into it too much, but they can't even bunk over at the SGC for two weeks while a new planet is found.

The wardrobe lady is actually pretty subversive, she sneaks stupid snakes into all the goauld clothes, but you have to look closely to see them. Most prominently being Amonet's stupid hat.

As to GOT, I think I mentioned that the Night's watches fur coats were bath mats from Ikea?
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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2019, 10:29:26 AM »
I don't remember the reference to the Ikea rugs, but that's hilarious.  I once saw a really bad sci fi movie with mutant wolves that appeared to have been German shepherd with rugs on their backs.  It was on Mystery Science Theatre 3000.  I used to be quite the fan of those kinds of shows, either MST3k or just regular Bad Movies, the kind that are on once a month at midnight and draw from the worst science fiction imaginable, like "Attack of the Mushroom People."  That was one for the ages.

I watched a second episode last night.  Down in the boiler room of a domed city being slaves to a two tier society that the slaves didn't know existed.  Another reference to strong feelings between O'Neill and Carter that gets neutralized by duty when they go home.

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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2019, 03:01:22 PM »
I liked how his fondness for Hammond and The Simpsons bled through the mind stampage.

That's also the one where the baddies are armed with Nintendo zappers, I wonder what they stuck in the one that actually fired.
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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2019, 01:32:12 AM »
Osiris is back and boy is s/he pissed.  Move over Erik von Daniken!

Daniel is handcuffed/silenced by the Official Secrets Act.  But had he been able to share this info with the other archaeologist, it's less likely that she would have become a host to a Gou'ald.  Oh well, many more seasons to go and you have to do something to advance the plot.  I wonder if Capn O'Neill caught any fish.  Apparently, Richard Dean Anderson is actually from Minnesota, hence the desire to go fishing on the lakes up there.  Minnesota is pretty but it's cold. Prince is from Minnesota, too.




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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2019, 01:30:46 AM »
There are zippy little bits of light that hum like mosquitoes and bite, leaving nasty burn marks that in quantity have the potential to be fatal. 

Then there's the Gou'ald orgasmitron that showers everyone with addictive light.  That's another fun encounter.  I left off tonight with 4:20.  That's the next episode.  Really?  More than 20 episodes in a season?  Amazing.

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« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2019, 02:22:04 AM »
I'm pretty sure Sarah was snaked before Daniel went back to town. Goauld get all your memories, and covering up a possession seems as simple as avoiding Sam Carter.

Osiris is a fun baddie though. And a legitimate threat in her own right. Anubis was poo, Osiris was legit.
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« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2019, 02:40:17 AM »
Double Jeopardy.  The robot doubles of the SG1 team show up on some letter number combo planet that the real guys had visited and Kronos is back.  Stealing a name from the Greek pantheon for reasons not explained, he's still a nasty piece of work, like a hair metal guy gone to seed.  The nice people on the planet had buried their stargate only to be invaded by the evil snakey guys with Kronos in charge.  They figured, wow, "bright light in sky frighten inhabitants in sectors 4 & 5"  they must be gods.  So when robot guys show up they are less than impressed, pissed rather (in the American sense of angry, not drunk).

The rest of the episode consists of the robots getting rid of the problem with SG1 reals.  So O'neill is talking to his expiring double at the end and it sort of just peters out.  WTF?  No resolution here.  Problem solved, robots dead, I guess.  End of story.  No repair shop?

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« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2019, 07:15:45 AM »
I think that's like the sarcophagus thing, they figured having RDA dye his hair for a few scenes was enough.

I once read a fanfic where Spock used every "miracle cure" of the original TOS series and essentially rewrote the timeline because the author didn't like the JJ verse, it was pretty good.

But it also illustrated why, when O'neill got nanite aged to 90, they didn't take a few years off the odometer, because RDA didn't want to dye his hair.

The knee thing is real though, RDA messed up his knee one year, and they did a lot of scenes in the X fighter, so he had to jump in and out of the stupid thing, so it became part of "O'neill".

I was mad at how robo SG-1 was treated when they came "home" to earth, but that was an entirely appropriate response by the base.

Still felt cold as hell.

And yeah, they ran their own mission from robot warehouse planet. I wonder how many Goauld they zapped.

So yeah, robo SG-1 dead, for good. We don't even get an answer on how they fixed the robot Teal'c.
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« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2019, 08:32:43 AM »
It also defies logic that the stargate program wouldn't jump at the chance to have robot substitutes put in harm's way instead of human beings.  There are so many advantages, but they don't even explore them.  This, from a group of people who wouldn't dream of visiting another planet via its stargate unless they sent a MALP through first.  Go figure.

Not to mention the sad state of their inventor who came up with them so he'd have some companions on his lonely planet.  That's entirely lacking in compassion, not to attempt to restore the robots.  Maybe Trump achieved his dreams of immortality and managed to get himself named Emperor in eternity.  That might explain things.

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« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2019, 01:12:34 AM »
I'm on season 5.  Teal'c has trouble getting back to his old self after apophis messed with his head.  That ate a couple episodes then Carter got an alien boyfriend, but he got killed trying to save humans who couldn't resist firing a new weapon from getting destroyed.  Bummer.  He was like the totally cute surfer dude.

Then chameleon gets close to SG1 and/but nobody can see him.  O'Neill helps out and makes sure he escapes the Gou'ald.  Hooray.  As they kept blasting the Goua'ld/Jaffa warriors, I was thinking of the Hollywood stunt people who got paid to leap from blasts and yell as they were being struck down.  I'd expect that to be a satisfying role for an actor.  You practice yelling "Gah!!" in front of the mirror and leaping to land in a heap on the ground because you just got zapped  with some plastic explosive or some other ass kicking method.

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Re: Stargate: SG-1 - Season 4.
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2019, 02:37:15 AM »
I'm glad Orlin died, he was a bless'ed creeper.

They do have fun with those blasts, they had a spring board to launch the guys. I feel like the DVD may be the superior experience, but I obviously don't expect you to go out and buy them.

I was shocked how low tech most of the effects were. Dig hole, fill hole with gasoline. Boom!

As to the Harlan class robots, I imagine they don't want to make more, considering they died nameless.

It's like when that guy wanted to take Data apart, or the geth from mass effect.

The geth were your standard cylon type. A labor class to replace the labor class. Then one had the temerity to ask "Does this unit have a soul".
As bad as some of the writing was in Mass effect was, that line still hits me. Harlan... wasn't exactly compassionate himself.
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Re: Stargate: SG-1 - Season 4.
« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2019, 09:56:37 AM »
Harlan is comic relief.  Like Philip K. D'ick lite.  "Replicants?  Ha Ha Ha Ha.  They don't mind.  They're machines!"

And give Orlin some leeway.  After all, I'm sure it's hard to figure out good lines for women after you take on human form after being all squiggly-luminous and powerful.  Besides, he made her dinner!  I like a man who cooks.  Apophis probably would make her cook and then clean up before making her bow down and worship him.  And he relies on tech for his power.  Orlin just gets all squiggly luminous and does cool stuff without demanding worship.  Bonus?  No symbiotes!   

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Re: Stargate: SG-1 - Season 4.
« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2019, 02:21:39 PM »
Yeah, but he thought he was entitled to a relationship because he looked at her. And a lot of his behaviors were straight up abusive. "Oh, you can't use the phone now, I'm talking" "Oh you can't warn your friends about me because I can just vanish" "What do you mean you aren't instantly in love with me the way I like you".

If he'd been even slightly more malicious, Carter could have found herself sectioned. Then again, the SGC seems to give their people a bit more leeway when it comes to insanity.

I got to the branching point where Stargate became two shows, and watched half the spinoff movie. I was too tired from the fire to finish it.

But yeah, we can jump to five now. You're catching up to me!

Also funny you mention a Goauld being rude about food, we actually get to see that a bit further down the line.
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« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2019, 02:54:23 PM »
Yeah, but he thought he was entitled to a relationship because he looked at her. And a lot of his behaviors were straight up abusive. "Oh, you can't use the phone now, I'm talking" "Oh you can't warn your friends about me because I can just vanish" "What do you mean you aren't instantly in love with me the way I like you".

If he'd been even slightly more malicious, Carter could have found herself sectioned. Then again, the SGC seems to give their people a bit more leeway when it comes to insanity.

Yeah.  He was sort of naive in that way.  I chalked it up to his not being an earthling.  Had he been a regular guy, I'd agree with you completely.  Who knows how luminous squiggly things are supposed to react when affection is offered?  Maybe instant reciprocal love is the done thing.  Who can say.  But the not letting your friends know you are here seemed a bit weird.  Maybe he was afraid of how they'd react.  It's hard to draw the line between extraterrestial inexperience and pushy men sometimes.

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Re: Stargate: SG-1 - Season 4.
« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2019, 03:08:38 PM »
He was smug about that too.

I actually reviewed these episodes as I watched them in notepad, and I didn't like him much then either.

The episodes you've reviewed are all on the first disc of five, but I'm not a cop.

I have to say when they were doing the fighting retreat against the replicators, the sheer number of those erector set bugs made my skin crawl.

They also forgot to speed up one of the action scenes, or left it slow for stylistic reasons. I imagine the fact that they were firing real weapons, albeit with blanks meant that the action coordinators had them move very slow, and then sped up firefights in post.
You may have noticed they switched from MP-5's to P-90's. German to Belgian. It's a good choice. You've mentioned annoyance at the lack of force the MP-5 had against Jaffa armor, and the P-90 was developed to shoot people in vehicles.

They couldn't get enough blanks for the P-90's because of Iraq and Afganistan, so Carter eventually gets a custom chop gun, called the Carter Special. They also recycle old sound effects of weapon fire. Waste not, want not!
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Re: Stargate: SG-1 - Season 4.
« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2019, 09:03:54 PM »
I did notice the change in weapons.  Much more like rapid fire automatic weapons.

And, yeah, the alien did take a great deal for granted, but don't most men?  Maybe I've become desensitized to the whole business through years of experience.  As for reviewing.  I have not reviewed any of these episodes.  I'd never watched the show before, and remember it as one of those programs that was syndicated in reruns on the lower budget UHF channels when we had dial tv.  Ha.  Remember dial tv?  In the ancient years before remotes?  Gak I feel old.  I just did a tax return and did not get to pass out enough candy.  Where are those blasted trick or treaters.  I gave away about a half of a giant bowl of treats. I'm praying for the 14 year old thugs without costumes to save me.  You know the ones...they show up at 9 and just want candy.  And I just don't care about the rules enough to deny them.  In fact, I'm happy to give it away.  I may just march across the street with a bag for the 16 year old who used to come over when he was a small child for Honey Nut Cheerios and sit to watch PBS kids with my parakeet in the afternoon.
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Re: Stargate: SG-1 - Season 4.
« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2019, 09:34:57 PM »
We had one of those click clack TV's on the boat, but SG started in 97, and was on Showtime to boot. I don't think those click clack sets could pick up showtime.

I had to use one of those weird fork adapters just to hook the SNES up to one of those.  two u hooks and a piece of plastic.

Holy poo, I never knew what a beast the P90 was. I knew it went pew hard and fast, but it's got a 2,350 ft/s muzzle velocity and fires 900 RPM!

I just remember Luis Lopez thought it was a raygun in a grand theft auto game!

Bill Burr has a bit about how if you have a gun for home defense, you can't love anything in your house. The P-90 is like a weed whacker for walls!

We didn't have any candy. I admit the real reason I put cabin in the woods on in my room was so mom wouldn't have the TV on in hers, she's near the front door.

I'm on the back wall, unlikely to draw trick r treaters.

I put up a thread for 5.
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