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Re: What's your favourite TV program of the moment?
« Reply #1605 on: March 25, 2020, 12:28:17 AM »
Hey six, to try and draw you back into S9 of SG-1, they do a Yojimbo where it's possible NO ONE in the flashback is guilty.  (sadly it had already been done on TNG) (And Voyager) (Why the golly do they recycle stuff like that?) (Ds9 once jammed 20 years of hard labor prison into O'Brien's head, but that didn't count)
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« Reply #1606 on: March 25, 2020, 01:27:01 AM »
I watched ep 1 season 2 of Altered Carbon tonight.  Lots of fisticuffs and it got pretty stabby at times.  I barely remember the first season but it had a more wistful and nostalgic air to it.  This one is more like, "got testosterone?"  I think I'm not in the target demographic.  I may stick it out.  I mean, unlike most women, I find the Three Stooges pretty funny.  I don't know what that says about my taste, but I put up with a good deal of crappy tv.  They should have an Altered Carbon bloopers tape.  That would be entertaining.  A bunch of ninjas and yakuza missing kicking the poo out of one another and yucking it up.

I just was not in the mood for SG1 tonight.  I slept through an episode of Downtown Abbey tonight and felt like watching some late tv.  Westworld seems to have evolved into a sweeping catfight between two beautiful women robots/simulants:  one blonde who has a chip on her shoulder the size of Cleveland and who thinks she should wipe out humanity vs gorgeous woman of African descent who is more tempered and humane.  She's not so vicious but can be if necessary.  Which one will win out?  It's fun to look at the sets and the costume changes.  There's some gorgeous modern architecture in the first episode.  And bonus appearance by Aaron Paul.  He's out of Breaking Bad and The Path, so now onto being unwitting robot lady's helper, I guess.

p.s.  8ully, do you mean Rashomon?  That's the Kurosawa film that consists of flashbacks describing a rape and murder while people sit at the Rashomon (the Western gate of Kyoto) taking shelter during a rainstorm.  Every one narrating has a different version of the story and of course nobody is guilty, or at least each of the accused asserts their innocence.
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Re: What's your favourite TV program of the moment?
« Reply #1607 on: March 25, 2020, 03:28:29 AM »
Tessa Thompson? She's got reason to be mad. Her real self got killed off, and the blonde walked around in a robot duplicate of her body. I'd hold a grudge too.

I didn't actually watch Westworld season 2, it was intentionally confusing because viewers on reddit figured out the first season in two episodes, and made the writers feel stupid. So Season 2 is like a writers middle finger to an audience, not exactly a ringing endorsement.

You're completely right about Rashomon, I've no damn clue why I mixed that one up.

I can understand being put off Season 9 of SG-1, it's probably my least favorite season, I'd probably chop everything BUT the soldier that bores you. Even Teal'cs political subplot leaves you begging for a system lord to just blow them all to hell. I literally fast forwarded through them. Jaffa, crap soldiers, crap politics.

Seriously, no clue why my brain farted out Yojimbo there. I meant Rashomon.

Maybe I was mixing up that weird Bruce Willis Western and BASIC? Both are American remakes of the associated films. I don't remember what the bruce willis one was called, but it's got Christopher walken in it.
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Re: What's your favourite TV program of the moment?
« Reply #1608 on: March 25, 2020, 09:09:30 AM »
Several Kurosawa films were remade as Westerns, I think of Sergio Leone, but several other directors were involved.  I looked it up on Wikipedia.  Here's the link:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remakes_of_films_by_Akira_Kurosawa

I was thinking of Clint Eastwood in High Plains Drifter, which sort of reminded me of  Yojimbo, and the related Fistful of Dollars.  It's been years since I've seen either one of them.  I used to like these movies.  I think I saw some of them on tv with my Dad, so it's been ages.

I didn't realize that Tessa-the blonde had been appropriated from a real person.  That helps.  I just remember the blonde robot in the park had a family, a father and a boyfriend, that she loved.  So she grows angrier when they are killed off and she can't manage to extract them from the cycle of massacres by visitors.  She was real at some point?  I don't remember that.

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Re: What's your favourite TV program of the moment?
« Reply #1609 on: March 25, 2020, 09:52:30 AM »
Tessa Thompson is not the blonde. Also, I have a bad habit of referring to the actors by their names instead of the characters.

S1 Delores went from NPC to ENDBOSS. Then she went from ENDBOSS to killing the creator of the park. The recap video I watched said that was unplanned.

Seems you're remembering early Delores. Her dad found a selfie, and that's what started the bots going berzerk. There were a bunch of cool theories about it being an image macro, some form of program, but nope!  Just couldn't handle a times square selfie!

later on I'll see if I can find the recap video I watched. It was lovely, and made me decide to stop watching the show. The writers are dicks.
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Re: What's your favourite TV program of the moment?
« Reply #1610 on: March 25, 2020, 11:48:29 AM »
Yeah.  I was thinking of Dolores.  Good name.  Griefs or sadnesses.  I vaguely remember a young woman who was a gunslinger and her father was some higher up in the corporate hierarchy of the agency who ran the park.  The first season is sort of fuzzy in my memory.  I'm kind of casting around at loose ends for stuff to watch.  I can't watch stuff my husband likes by myself at night (because it would deplete the supply of stuff we could watch together), so I'm relegated to sci fi stuff he would hate and other oddities.

I haven't read the book and can't recall if the original series was a televised version of a book or if the book came after.  So I have no reference point to know how much has been manipulated off the script.  I guess it would be a quick read.  I've seen a zillion copies in used book stores and I'm pretty sure I'd have little trouble finding a digital version.  I'm almost finished with the current read:  A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius (it isn't).  It's entertaining enough to finish but far from compelling.

p.s.  I just found the book. Not surprised to find it's by Michael Crichton, author of Jurassic Park, another work I've read.  It's also sort of interesting to see the parallels:  technology plans extraordinary amusement park using cutting edge tech and it goes horribly wrong.  If I remember correctly, Crichton was trained as a physician but decided to go another direction, a fact that might account for his keen insights into the tech that is so misdirected. 

No matter how much you think you've planned to make something foolproof, there's always some odd thing you could not have foreseen that pops up to make a mess out of things.
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Re: What's your favourite TV program of the moment?
« Reply #1611 on: March 27, 2020, 03:18:31 AM »
I read Westworld.  It was like a cobbled together screenplay of the movie.  Odd.  And it just describes a single day where a few visitors to the park enjoy themselves briefly before the robots go rogue and people start getting killed.  One guy manages to escape but for how long?  The end.  I was amazed it was so short.

So, whatever they're doing with the television show now, there's considerable room for invention.  Unless there's another more comprehensive book out there.  I haven't seen the original movie with Yul Brenner, et al, but I'm assuming it's faithful to the minimal screenplay that was published.  If anyone can shed any further light on this, feel free.

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« Reply #1612 on: March 27, 2020, 09:37:03 AM »
Most* of Michael Crichton's books are.

*I say most, as I haven't read them all, but all of those that I have read.

Jurassic Park read like a novel and included information that was more developed than what I saw in the theatre.  It was not great literature, but an enjoyable read.  Westworld looked as if some functionary in the movie company glued together a script and sent it off to the publishers.  But that's as far as my exposure goes. 

I can't say why I read Jurassic Park.  Like several other less that stellar books I've read, some things just came my way, via a cheap used book sale at a public library or they were sitting in a box on the curb, or were in one of the Little Free Libraries.

Westworld was an ebook that I located relatively easily online.

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Re: What's your favourite TV program of the moment?
« Reply #1613 on: March 27, 2020, 10:26:39 AM »
Michael Crichton wrote for the screen, and was good at it.

Fun story, Robert Ludlum started writing books to get OUT of the script game. When they tried to get him to rewrite the film "The Osterman weekend" he told them to golly off.

Every PDF version I've ever found of Osterman weekend is format bent. I tried listening to the book on tape version once, but my brain wandered too much.

Jurassic Park was a highly technical book, I feel like some of it was better than the movie, but overall Spielberg won that fight. The sequel book was straight up written to try and get the second movie made.

How do you feel about Clancy?
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« Reply #1614 on: March 27, 2020, 12:29:33 PM »
Tom Clancy hinted at the supernatural ONCE in Debt of Honor.

A Pilot kamikazi's a 747 into the capitol building, killing congress and the president. Jack Ryan is in a Tunnel beneath the building... for some reason. It's been a long time since I read it.

But the explosion... stops.  As in Jack Ryan is immune to an exploding 747, but no one else is. I found it fascinating, but the book doesn't dwell, it rolls right on from that.

But yeah, Jack Ryan is a Were-Reagan where everything just falls in line because he glares hard enough.
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« Reply #1615 on: March 27, 2020, 12:49:26 PM »
I am slogging through Paul Scott's The Jewel in the Crown as we so enjoyed the PBS/BBC series that we were inspired to read the books.  There are 4 of them and they're not always easy going as they veer back and forth from action to documents (letters, diaries, etc.) with long descriptive passages that make for slow going.

I may resort to Andromeda Strain, although I might want a little escape from books about sickness.  I realize this is the TV thread, but if anyone has any sci fi recommendations, tv shows or books, I'm all ears.  They're a little easier to get into via escapist mode.

I'm a little tired of this state of siege.  I'll be glad when it's over.

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« Reply #1616 on: March 27, 2020, 03:01:42 PM »
... Burn Notice? It's not sci-fi, but it's a departure from reality. Plus Michael Shanks plays a batshit insane character.
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« Reply #1617 on: March 27, 2020, 05:17:03 PM »
Thanks to both of you.  I will check out Burn Notice.

I've read Dune and really enjoyed it.  Dune Messiah, not so much.  It suggested to me that the energy had run out in that series.  Oddly, I was reading Martin's the Song of Ice and Fire series and never tired of it, same with the various Expanse novels.  Ender's Game was very good.  Too bad the author is so vile a human being.  As for Dan Simmons, I read the Hyperion Cantos and the two related novels, at your suggestion, and enjoyed them as well.   You know, I've never read Asimov's Foundation series.

I did see the first episode of Black Mirror, involving blackmail and getting up close and personal with a member of the porcine species.  It was pretty dark.  I don't know if the husband is up to more of that.  If not I might pursue that.  We liked season 1 of The Terror but the first episode of the second season was so gratuitously and graphically violent that we gave up after a short time, electing not to finish the episode.

If my German were better, I'd be finishing the Gereon Rath series by Volker Kutscher (the guy behind the Babylon Berlin series).  I've read everything that's been translated into English, thus far.  The third season of Babylon Berlin is out, but so far I've only been able to find it dubbed into Russian, and beyond "Nyet" and "Da," I'm pretty much hopeless there.

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« Reply #1618 on: March 27, 2020, 05:42:03 PM »
Burn notice is interesting as it blends like, a 70's detective series, almost Rockford files, with some truly nasty spy drama. I found when it's fun it's great, when it's nasty, it's not so great. I believe the first season is mostly devoid of the really nasty stuff.

Plus it's utterly gorgeous to look at. USA network called that time it's "blue sky" era, and it very much lives up to that.
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« Reply #1619 on: March 27, 2020, 06:11:16 PM »
Cool.  I didn't realize it was a series.  I'll rustle around and see if I can find it.